09/11/25 18:56:03
>>96
Pie has leased lines from Global Crossing. I think it has been more than one year
since we had NTT America lines.
98:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/27 18:31:43
2ch and bbspink are not Twitter.
2ch does not have a motive or plan for economic profit. The first time I met
Hiroyuki, I was excited and under the impression that 2ch was a chance and a
future for making huge profits. I must admit that my dream would be huge profits.
Hiroyuki told me straight at that time, that he had no intention of making a public
company, and that if anything he saw 2ch as a not for profit corporation.
Of course I did not understand or agree with that, but he is a rock, and someone
that is worth following. I have followed his philosophy since then. Since that time.
I have watched several companies rise higher and fall back farther than my company
and 2ch as well. Can you remember an upstart public internet company wanting to buy
a baseball team, and having a wonderful business jet? ( I was very jealous of that jet.)
99:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/27 18:32:03
Server load and settings for 2ch and bbspink are discussed and set by users for users
Many of the regulating systems are monitored and controlled by volunteers who are
completely anonymous. When new servers are needed there is quite a bit of discussion
for and against every time. Sometimes I have disagreed but I always look back to the
rock or foundation of this unorganized mayhem that we make daily online, and let the masses
have what they want. Twitter has a different philosophy on this, and good or bad their
server did not crash during the cartoon festival. This is not PIE's fault, it is just a failure
of the current system to predict that it was to happen. Actually some users are probably
enjoying the fact because the usage was so huge it crashed the server that was tuned
personally by the famous Mumumu-san. I am sure there will be more failures in the future
and many more successes. The failures will be newsworthy, and the successes of hardware
and systems will hardly be noted. That is the way of things, and it is normal.
100:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/27 18:32:30
There are times when even this system needs to make money, and this is one of those times.
Many servers need to be upgraded, the economy is still down, there is an improvement, but
still so many people are suffering. This has affected the businesses that are the customers
of my company, and it has reduced the gross income that supports our efforts substantially.
Of course we will weather the down turn, and come back bigger and better. It is a very conservative
course we follow economically and that will hold things true towards our course of supporting
this ongoing test of human experience and change that we play with daily online.
Maru helps support this effort, and its use should be encouraged. Soon there will be other
products that will be available that will also support this great effort. I hope that you will use
them as they are released and understand that the philosophy behind them helps support the
change in the world that 2ch and bbspink have made. The freedoms that they have given to
slices of the population that never had a voice before them, and would lose their voice without them.
101:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/27 18:33:14
I think there is no solution for trolls and cyber bullies except for manual labor to restrict their ability
to harm others. I do think that trolls can cause real harm to real people, and wish they wouldn't but
I am not naive either so I know they will continue. Vandalism is a different story, and often is brought
on by legitimate companies that have a dream of crashing our way, so that their way can be advanced.
Often vandal attacks don't even originate in Japan, but from other countries that might see this real
freedom as a threat to their way of life. I hope that we will always be able to find the way of blocking
them and stopping their aggressive oppressive behavior. When massive blocking happens on 2ch and bbspink,
this is the reason, and when you are personally affected I am so sorry for that, but I know that
the greater good is served by it. The use of Maru can often help you when there is a block in place. This
system allows you to authenticate so that even though you are on a blocked network, we know that you
are someone that should be allowed to post. One of the solutions for this that I am working on is an ipv6 vpn system
that will allow you to “dial up” and post from a good network with an individual IP
from a good network, instead of from a proxy.
102:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/27 18:35:20
Many of the newer telephones will allow vpn use,
and there are plenty of ipv6 segments so that everyone can have their own ip.
Of course the servers themselves will have to be upgraded and have dual stack ipv4 and ipv6 installed on them.
Over time that will help the most with the network blocking.
Then systems like Pasegueno will not block your proxy that you are forced by your isp
to use. They will just block you as an individual if you get carried away and abuse the system.
Less people will be affected and bad users can be restricted with a more surgical like precision.
The tweet community is nothing like the community that 2ch and bbspink are.
It is more of a commercially supported accepted by the mainstream industry community.
Definitely for the homogeneous by the homogeneous. URLﾘﾝｸ(www.techcrunch.com)
I hope that comparisons are not made, there is no grand scheme for world domination here.
We are always just looking for ways to make users more comfortable in their experience.
103:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/11/27 21:09:27 Kf6EjwVv
## done translation.
2chやbbspinkはtwitterではないです。
2chには経済的な利益のための動機や計画はありません。私がひろゆきに初めて
会ったとき、私は大変感動しており、2chはチャンスであり、莫大な利益をもたらす
未来であるように捉えていました。莫大な利益を得るというのが夢であったことは
認めましょう。彼は正直な話をしてくれました。上場企業を作るつもりではない
こと、2chを営利目的の存在と見ていないこと。もちろん私にはそれは分かりません
でしたし、同意もできませんでしたが、彼の哲学を追ってきました。それから、その時
から。いくつかの会社がわが社を越えた高みに登り、沈んでいくのを見てきました。
上場したネット企業の、野球チームを買おうとした、かっこいいビジネスジェットを
持っていたところを覚えていますか?(うらやましかったんですよね、あのジェット機。)
2chとPINKのサーバ負荷や設定はユーザによってユーザのために議論され調整されて
います。多くの規制システムは完全に匿名のボランティアによって監視・制御されています。
新しいサーバの必要が出るたび、賛否両論が起こります。必ずしもいつも賛成はして
いませんが、私は常に我々が日々を送るこのカオスの基礎に立ち返り、大衆の望む
ものを提供してきました。Twitterは異なる哲学に基づいていて、幸か不幸か彼らの
サーバはアニメ祭りをしのぎました。これはPIEのせいではなく、たんにこれを予測できなかった
現在のシステムが原因です。一部のユーザはかのむむむさんの手が入ったサーバを
アクセス数で落とせたことを喜んでいるようですが、こういった失敗、さらに多くの成功が
今後も増えてゆくでしょう。失敗はセンセーショナルでしょう。ハードウェアやシステムの
成功は気づいてももらえないかもしれません。そういうものです。それが普通です。
104:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/11/27 21:09:57 Kf6EjwVv
こういったシステムでも、お金を用意する必要に迫られるときがあります。今がちょうど
その時です。複数のサーバを更新しなければなりません。一方で景気は悪く、改善の
傾向はあれど多くの人々が苦しんでいます。わが社の顧客の皆さんにも余波がかかって
おり、我々の活動を支える収入も大きく減る結果となっています。言うまでもなく我々は
不況を耐え、より大きく良くなって復活します。我々は経済的には保守的でな方向をとりました。
この方向こそが、今まさに行われている、私たちが毎日やっているエクスペリエンスと
変化の実験への道を支えてくれるでしょう。○はこれをささえるものとして機能しており、もっと
広まるべきです。じき、これを支える他の製品が提供されます。皆さんが公開後すぐにこれを
使ってくれ、その背後にある哲学が2chとPINKがもたらした世界への変革、それらが生まれる
前には声を持たなかった人々、それなくして声を持てない人々への自由を支える助けになる
ということを理解されることを願っています。
荒らしやネット弁慶問題は、地道な人間の作業によって他人を傷つけさせないようにすることでしか対策
できないと思います。私は荒らしは現実の人間に現実の被害を与えることができると思っています。彼らが
それをやめてくれたら良いとも思いますが、私はネイティブでもないので彼らがやめないことは分かって
います。破壊活動はまた違った話で、たいていは私たちのやり方を壊してビジネスを拡大しようとする
合法な会社の手によります。ふつう破壊工作は日本からですらなく、完全な自由に生活を阻害されると
考えているような国から来ます。常にその攻撃的で抑圧的な行動をブロックし、止めてしまう方法を
見つけることができていれば良いと思います。2chとPINKで大規模規制が行われるのはこれが理由で
あり、個人的にこの影響を受けた方には申し訳なく思います。一方で、これによってそれを上回り良い
環境が提供できているということを私は知っています。○はこういうときの規制回避に役立ちます。
このシステムは認証を提供し、規制中のネットワークを通してでもこちらがあなたを投稿が許されて良い
人物だと識別することができます。これに関して現在開発が進んでいるのが、ユーザが"ダイヤルアップ"
し、プロキシの代わりに個別のIPアドレスを使って良いネットワークから投稿する方式のIPv6ベースVPN
システムです。
105:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/11/27 21:10:24 Kf6EjwVv
最近の多くの電話機はVPN利用ができます。
IPv6のセグメントには広い空きがあり、皆が固有のIPアドレスを持てます。
もちろんサーバ自身もIPv4とv6のデュアル・スタック対応にアップグレードする必要があります。
時間が経てば、新システムが規制を大きく助けてくれるでしょう。そうなれば、ISPに強制
されているプロキシもPaseguenoに弾かれなくなります。システムは舞い上がって荒らしをした
個人だけを規制するようになります。巻き込まれは減り、悪者は外科的精密さを持って
除けるようになります。twitter ユーザコミュニティは2chやPINKのそれとはまったく異なります。
あれは業界の主流に支えられた、商業的バックアップのあるものです。
均質な存在による均質な存在のためのものだと断言できます。
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.techcrunch.com)
比較がなされないことを望みます。世界征服計画なんかないです。
私たちはただユーザエクスペリエンスがより快適である方策を日々練っているだけです。
## done copy-posting.
106:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/27 21:18:24
Trip-さん
こちろこそ ども ありがとう ございます
たくさん Text すみーません
107:名無し編集部員
09/11/27 21:30:02 j1MPFeUy
バカしー(･∀･)ﾉｼ
108:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/11/27 21:31:57 Kf6EjwVv
so twitter's "a nervous system for humanity", PINK's a system that handles
rational thinkings, like discussing about good translations for cameltoe.
I've got the idea. Anyway I'm really interested in VPN system. I want to
hear more about it.
109:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/11/27 21:34:33 Kf6EjwVv
>>106
my pleasure. indeed that was long. took me some hours...
110:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/27 21:58:14
>>108
We have already started making it. There are still a lot of problems, but it is
coming soon.
Can you tell me the correct spelling for cameltoe? Is it one word or two?
cameltoe or camel toe.
111:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/27 21:58:55
>>109
I machine translated yours back. Actually yours is better than mine...;)
112:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/11/27 22:45:02 Kf6EjwVv
>>110-111
Wikipedia suggests single word "cameltoe". I know nothing more about it...
what platform your VPN sysytem going to support?
113: ◆a.l.mlvFv3O2
09/11/28 02:22:10 fxxg+g7U
I didn't have thought about the difference between IPv4 and IPv6.
When I heard it explained from a different point of view, it was like the scales fell from my eyes.
Twitter is little bit undependable for me.
It does not have fun of diversity, rock spirits and chaos world.
So I think Twitter might not be popular.
But I may not know what the Yutori generation think about it.
They often be mocked on 2ch because of their lack of common sense.
But in a sense, they are native for using the broadband network.
They use the network like a breathing, but people do not pay for air.
Maybe someone will found an outrageous way.
The greedy Company will surprise for unexpected user.
It does not matter whether Twitter survives or not,
Because we are a flexible autonomous community.
114:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/28 06:54:10
>>113
Good luck to them. I have never used it.
115:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/28 06:56:22
>>112
Most PC can use VPN. Many newer phones can as well.
We talked about it some on translation thread.
Some will be able to use it with a java applet.
Then you pointed out to me that there are many flavors of java
for different carriers in Japan. So it is going to take a little time
for everyone to be able to use it.
116:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/28 07:06:57
I have to go to a baseball game now.
117:名無し編集部員
09/11/28 12:26:19 bUVX20l6
>>97-102
Jimさん、答えてくれて ありがとう
そうだね
勝ったか負けたか、それは関係ないことですね
>>103-105
翻訳ありがとう
118:名無し編集部員
09/11/29 22:52:09 FASS66Hz
Hi! Jim-san.
I am invalid though I registered in the link. Why?
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.bbspink.com)
This page is currently disabled
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.bbspink.com)
119:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/29 23:20:31
I didn't make the webmaster page active.
The link goes from here.
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.bbspink.com)
I can activate that if you want though.
120:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/29 23:22:21
>>118
What is your site? I will look for it.
121:名無し編集部員
09/11/29 23:35:10 FASS66Hz
>>１２０
URLﾘﾝｸ(up.pandoravote.net)
122:POE ★
09/11/30 02:10:55
cameltoe
エロ目的で検索したことがあるｗ
誰のそれを見たかったのかは覚えていないｗ
123:118
09/11/30 05:34:17 GoagP1mS
Isn't information registered once revokable?
Webmaster Stats
Domain
Password
In me, isn't log in a thing in it for this to change registered information though it cannot be done?
124:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/30 07:43:55
>>123
No, it doesn't work like that.
I can change your description if you want.
This is what you currently have.
honounouploader
Maybe this would be a better description?
炎のアップローダ
I will put that for you.
125:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/30 07:45:19
>>123
A cameltoe is similar to a "w"
126:118
09/11/30 10:14:08 GoagP1mS
>>124
YES!!!炎のアップローダPlease change.！
We wish to express our gratitude to Jim-san.!!!
127:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/30 10:16:57
>>126
I sent you email as well...;)
By the way, your main site URLﾘﾝｸ(pandoravote.net)
is listed as well.
Do you want that name changed to something?
128:118
09/11/30 10:30:16 GoagP1mS
>>127
There is no alterations necessary.
Thank you for consideration!!!
129:名無し編集部員
09/11/30 19:48:20 4d7tWzIg
ｽﾚｯﾄﾞ違いかも知れませんが報告します。
女神叩きの無断転載をして各ｽﾚｯﾄﾞを荒らしています。
しばらく現れていませんでしたが再発してます。
女神板の各ｽﾚｯﾄﾞの進行を著しく妨害しています。
JIMさん検討をお願いします。
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(megami板:156番)
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(megami板:128番)
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(megami板:72番)
130:名無し編集部員
09/11/30 20:00:08 T05ocvMj
>>129
・荒らし、煽りは完全放置。荒らしに反応するのも荒らしです。
どんな形であっても話題にすること自体が荒らしに活力を与えます。
完全放置が最大の支援であることを女神を含む住人全員が十分に理解しましょう。
megami板 自治スレッド16
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(megami板)
131:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/30 20:04:33
>>129
He is posting from China. I guess it is an open proxy there.
Usually he posts from open proxy inside China.
132:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/30 20:05:43
>>130
かんぺき です
133:名無し編集部員
09/11/30 20:17:05 7x+nDHy0
彼は●とproxyを使ってることが明らかになっています。
この規制は難しいんですか？
134:名無し編集部員
09/11/30 20:19:20 jfA1C/S6
LRを担保に運営の怠慢を抗弁するとは筋違いもいいところですな
135:名無し編集部員
09/11/30 20:38:08 cHcpPM7s
○枯死するまで孤独に暴れさせておいてゴミが溜まったら削除が一番です。
上記はよくある荒らし対策のコピペの1節。
削除も規制も動いてないから枯死するのは女神と住人。
運営がGL違反を延々と繰り返す連中を放置するのをLRで正当化する姿勢からも
あの板設立の真の狙いが分かるというもの。
136:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/30 21:14:15
>>133
No, it is not difficult it is already done.
However there are thousands of them around the world.
The industrious troll will find them.
137:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/11/30 21:16:11
>>134-135
すみーません、ぜんぜんわからない。
わたしは ねむい です。
おやすみ なさい
138:名無し編集部員
09/11/30 21:19:57 DGO57ZTH
>>137
good night！
139:名無し編集部員
09/11/30 23:28:50 6VuwdQoZ
>>135
定番コピペをちょっと改変してみたよ
||￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣||
|| ○女神は放置が一番キライ。女神は常に誰かの反応を待っています。
|| ○重複スレには誘導リンクを貼って放置。ウザイと思ったらそのまま放置。
|| ○放置された女神は煽りや自作自演であなたのレスを誘います。
|| ノセられてレスしたらその時点であなたの負け。
|| ○賞賛は女神の滋養にして栄養であり最も喜ぶことです。女神にエサを
|| 与えないで下さい。 Λ_Λ
|| ○枯死するまで孤独に暴れさせておいて ＼ (ﾟーﾟ*) ｷﾎﾝ。
|| ゴミが溜まったら削除が一番です。 ⊂⊂ |
||＿＿＿ ∧ ∧＿＿∧ ∧＿＿ ∧ ∧＿ |￣￣￣￣|
( ∧ ∧__ ( ∧ ∧__( ∧ ∧ ￣￣￣
～（＿( ∧ ∧＿ ( ∧ ∧＿ ( ∧ ∧ は～い、先生。
～（＿( ,,)～（＿( ,,)～（＿( ,,)
～（＿__ﾉ ～（＿__ﾉ ～（＿__ﾉ
140:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/12/01 17:00:31 xJztZdaG
134 ：名無し編集部員：2009/11/30(月) 20:19:20 ID:jfA1C/S6
Blame operators using LR? how could that be rational......
135 ：名無し編集部員：2009/11/30(月) 20:38:08 ID:cHcpPM7s
-Leave as they lonely struggle; as they die we just clean them up.
Above is from a famous troll guide template.
Neither deleters nor bans are working, so who die are Magamis and users.
From operators using LR to justify letting GL violators what they want to do
we can see real reason for existence of that board.
136 ：RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★：2009/11/30(月) 21:14:15 ID:???
>>133
いえ、特に難しいものではありません。すでに済んでます。
しかし世界中にはそういうのは何千とありまして、
勤勉な荒らし諸君がまた新しいのを見つけてくるのです。
141:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/01 18:40:16
hmmm
142:名無し編集部員
09/12/01 20:41:05 0L/Q25je
じゃなくてー
●ログインしないと
クス規制で投稿できないでしょってば？
143:名無し編集部員
09/12/01 20:41:41 0L/Q25je
クス規制 誤
クシ規制 ○
144:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/01 20:57:39
hmmm
145:名無し編集部員
09/12/01 21:06:53 h3PVPh/K
boo2008で既に焼かれた串で書き込みをする→●と串を使っている
こういう判断から、●のアカウントを停止する選択もあるのでは、ということじゃないんでしょうか
既にやっているのなら、ごめんなさい
146:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/12/01 21:26:48 VWkUVi4P
Hello. It's just gone 2125 JST and time for the Jim-san on top of your television set to explode.
147:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/01 21:55:07
Guys, I am so sorry. I am completely baffled by the slang.
ごめんあさい すみーません
148:名無し編集部員
09/12/07 15:56:29 6FHpv92j
とにかく見てくれ、この状況を
荒らしがなにかと絵を描く連中を罵倒する今の現状じゃあ
一個人の力ではどうにもやることができない
注意事項にも目もくれず、相手の存在さえも否定するこの荒らし許してはいけない
URLﾘﾝｸ(set.bbspink.com)
149:名無し編集部員
09/12/07 16:01:07 YisN4i2j
>>148
too bad, you bone head. i think you should clean up your head and take all the pile of shit out.
150:名無し編集部員
09/12/08 13:36:45 F9jZzzzY
荒らしが絵師に執拗にストーキングしてます
それも、買い物履歴からなにやら全部調べて絵師さんの揚げ足を取っています
【自発】断髪少女を描くスレ 2束目【強制】
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erocg板)
594 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/04(金) 19:11:37 ID:07Zsp4CK
お買い得です!!!
URLﾘﾝｸ(mk3.surpara.com)
595 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/04(金) 23:52:10 ID:dMtKYBIE
この絵が有料なの？
598 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/06(日) 15:21:11 ID:97o6rJpI
画材を使ってかけばなんだって売れると勘違いしてるとおもうよ
噂通りの人柄ですね
599 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/07(月) 14:56:18 ID:xZot7fyu
URLﾘﾝｸ(blog.alocer.bitter.jp)
コメントの時間に注目してください
クーラントさん､掲示板の人たちは本当のことを言ってたのですね
fiasseさん、源氏さん
コメントありがとう御座います。
このキャラ、フェイトではなく、
ス○イガールズというシリーズのフィギュアです。
中古ショップで動かしやすそうで安いものを選んで
買ったので特にキャラを気に留めていなかったんですが、
見ているとかわいかったので描いてみました。
| alocer | 2009/12/07 8:03 AM |
そうっぽいよね
| 源氏 | 2009/12/07 2:08 AM |
金髪で赤い目・・・フェイトかな？
| fiasse | 2009/12/07 12:13 AM |
fiasse＝未来から来た､クーランと演じるサクラ
源氏＝承認待ち文章を読み暴く神
600 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/07(月) 15:16:10 ID:ernejJiV
本当だw
クーラント自演乙w
602 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/08(火) 09:30:58 ID:F5WWrX7E
>>601
時系列順なら原氏→クーラント→外人になる。
文章から推測される解読順は外人→原氏→クーラント。
矛盾が出る。
クーラントはサクラキャラに疑問符を使ってサクラ疑惑を回避したかったんじゃないのかな？
自演失敗乙クーラント３。
603 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/08(火) 12:53:00 ID:UncmYist
普通に時間通りに列んでるだろ
151:名無し編集部員
09/12/08 13:49:22 F9jZzzzY
3． 固定ハンドルが題名に入っている・固定ハンドルが占用している・閉鎖的な使用法を目的としている
というスレッドを立てる規則を無視し、あまつさえいなくなった絵師の話題をぶり返す
ちなみにラマーズとは固定ハンドルの名前
ラマーズを召喚し讃えるスレ
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erocg板)
荒らしは絵を描くことも創作することも目的じゃあなく、ただ他人をあざ笑うだけの人間
危険すぎる
152:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/08 19:38:56
Besides the painter I would like to know, does the five second rule apply at the mall?
153:名無し編集部員
09/12/09 17:11:32 Y+WMpaow
ジムさん、元気？
東京は寒いよ。
154:名無し編集部員
09/12/10 09:22:45 0odxa+LA
>>152
ほかに被害を受けている人間はいるかと？
まずここのスレッド
コテ付けて絵の修行するスレ 23枚目
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erocg板)
214 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/09(水) 12:21:28 ID:eh/e92Px
>>211
デッサンの解釈の違いも問題だが、もっと遥かに大きな問題は
見る目も思考能力も乏しい盲目無能者が多すぎると言うことだ
216 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/09(水) 13:33:15 ID:22m2JWjG
えっ…まさか「俺見る目あります！！」っていうアピールかな…
217 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/09(水) 14:22:12 ID:eh/e92Px
>>216
俺に見る目があるのは当たり前
無能名無しが盲目であることも当たり前
218 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/09(水) 14:23:57 ID:XCTiFj8/
222 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ 投稿日： 2009/12/09(水) 16:20:31 ID:oDLaAZmD
日付でID変わるまでは好きに発言し放題ってか。
本当に参加するかすら怪しい。
俺も参加する！(ｷﾘｯ って言って逃げた某池沼さんみてーだ。
223 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/09(水) 18:07:47 ID:8cVk4cH8
馬鹿馬鹿しい。荒らしにレスつける奴何考えてるの？
荒らしを叩いて悦に浸りたいの？自分も荒らしだって自覚ないの？あるの？
俺含めてスルー出来ない奴は全員クズ。
ラマーズのスレがヲチスレ化してるようだから、 くだらん感想文をどうしても書き込みたいならそっちでやれ。
225 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/09(水) 18:32:00 ID:Ynn9mnI1
つい数日前はほとんどコテしかレスしない状態だったのに、上手い人（びょっ）がうｐ＞赤＞揚げ足の取り合いって流れになって荒れた
ちなみに揚げ足を取っている人間は魔法少女の方にはほとんど関心を示していないところを見ると、いかに上手い人を
貶めるか、ということのみに注力しているのは明らか
んでそういう奴ってデッサンの指摘くらいしか出来ないから大して絵を見る目が無いってのも明らかになってる
見る目があったら魔法少女の方にも指摘してるしな
指摘するといってもどうせラマーズの時みたいにセンスのみで描いてるとか抽象極まりない意見しかできないだろうしｗｗｗ
次に、犯人らしき人物>>45
pixivで、上手いのに点数つかない人を挙げる
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erocg板:44番)-45
44 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/08(火) 16:09:44 ID:93AbopC+
こんなスレッドをたてる奴がどんなのかはわかるがな
この板を潰したい奴、この板を潰すことでしか自分の価値を見出せない愚か者だよ
そうだろう？まだ見てるだろ>>1
45 名前： ...φ(・ω・`c⌒っ [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/09(水) 04:51:30 ID:XcF/nPEm
間違いなく俺だな
155:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/10 10:56:24
>>154
I think I finally understand what you are saying.
What do you think we should do?
156:名無し編集部員
09/12/10 23:36:07 5toFHZu6
Hello jim-san!!
長期未処理（重点削除専用）スレの転載です。
↓
>264 名前：名無しさん＠ピンキー[sage] 投稿日：2009/12/02(水) 21:11:57 ID:SvXo1egB0
>2008/11/30 ■ 過去ログ削除専用 ■
>ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:493番)-n
>11/11 熟女
>ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:210番)-n
>以上、12月2日現在 1週間以上対応待ち 2件
過去ログ削除スレが昨年11/30から機能していないようです。
対応策を検討＆解決策の提示をして下さい。よろしくお願いいたします。
157:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/11 05:15:48
>>156
Hello...
158:名無し編集部員
09/12/11 12:03:23 DJ7l8ZTV
>>157
Responce,thanks!
You need translation?
do you understand >>156 ???
159:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/11 23:15:23
>>158
I do not understand 156 or 154
sorry about that.
160:156
09/12/11 23:42:38 mA4iyrge
As for it, is not the method of settlement understood?
Or, is not sentences understood?
What is insufficient?
161:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/12/12 14:24:45 pbZxGt9e
>>156
>Hello jim-san!!
>
>From long-term unprocessed delete request(priority delete only) thread;
> ↓
>>264 名前：名無しさん＠ピンキー[sage] 投稿日：2009/12/02(水) 21:11:57 ID:SvXo1egB0
>>2008/11/30 ■ 過去ログ削除専用 ■
>>ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:493番)-n
>>11/11 熟女
>>ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:210番)-n
>>2 left pending >1 week / as of 2 Dec
>
>Thread for archive delete seems defunct since 30/Nov/08.
>Please suggest and provide solution. Thanks in advance.
162:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/12 16:38:29
>>161
Hi Trip-san. How are you doing? Thank you for the help.
Can you tell me what is wrong with that thread? Maybe it does not need
deleting, that is why it is ignored.
163:156
09/12/12 17:02:03 lxpBVNIF
Sorry my poor english,and thank you for >>161 trip-san!!
ありがとうございます！
私の本名でGoogle検索をすると個人名、生年月日、出身地や前後のレスでの誹謗中傷&私生活情報など、様々な情報が検索結果にでます。
過去ログ削除専用スレには依頼済みですが、なにが問題で作業が進んでいないのか分かりません。
お忙しいところ申し訳ありませんが、なにとぞご配慮下さい。長文失礼しました。
※必要があれば｢過去ログ削除専用｣スレッドの当該レスを転載します。
164:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/12 17:52:50
>>163
I can't take anything out of google.
I can see that the volunteers deleted though.
501 名前：うふ～ん [うふ～ん]： うふ～ん ID:DELETED (9)
うふ～ん
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:501番)
165:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/12/12 18:38:42 pbZxGt9e
>>162
Hi Jim-san, sorry for long time no see. I'm just fine.
I also can't find pending target for the request and unable
to confirm situation. btw I've got a used Motorola M1000
(UIQ 2.1, Symbian OS 7.0). MIDP 2.0 compatible.
>>163
削除依頼のURLを提示してもらった方がいいかもです。その
サイトはBBSPINK内ですか? 2chについてであれば2chへ、unkar
などの外部サイトについてはそちらへ問い合わせてもらうことに
なると思います。
166:名無し編集部員
09/12/12 18:39:13 lxpBVNIF
>>164
Ok,I understand that thing.
But,I talking ｢long-team unprocessed delete request thread｣=｢過去ログ削除専用スレッド｣。
there is nobody can work...
after Greenday★ is empty now.Can I work anyone?would you like to do?
Later,Japanese
私もJim-san がGoogleに対して無力であることは理解できます。
でも、私が話したい事は｢過去ログ削除専用スレッド｣についてです。
そのスレッドでは作業が可能なボランティアはいない状態のようです。
Greenday★さんの後任が不在です。どなたか作業できませんか？また、jimさん自身はどうしたいですか？
167:156
09/12/12 18:52:58 lxpBVNIF
>>165 tripさん、ありがとうございます。連投すみません。
削除依頼のURLを探してきました。下記になります。
2009/03/10
URLﾘﾝｸ(vip.bbspink.com)
レス番号:263、487、502
個人名、3種
ご不明点などありましたらご教示下さると非常にたすかります。
168:156
09/12/12 19:00:30 lxpBVNIF
失礼しました。
追加で下記もご確認下さい。
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:526番)-n
169:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/12/12 19:47:50 pbZxGt9e
So the problems are;
- Absence of deleter after Greenday★ -san has left
- And resulting great delay in priority log delete
as seen in;
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:526番)-n
he;
- Demands delete of post 263, 487, 502, which contain name of a person, in
URLﾘﾝｸ(vip.bbspink.com)
- Ask Jim-san to have new deleter.
So pink's been running for a year with no (voluntary) deleter?
well, that'a problem...
170:156
09/12/12 20:03:24 lxpBVNIF
>>169tripさん！
なんという英語力！！今日は毎度お世話になりっぱなしですね。
重ねてお礼を申し上げます。ありがとうございます。私自身がぴんくチャンネルにまだまだ不案内なもので助かります。
しかし、こんな文章を書いてスレッドを汚してしまうと良くないので、しばらくお礼の書き込みは自重します。
またお力をお借りする機会もあると思いますが、何卒良しなに。。。
171: ◆EROyVmNwwM
09/12/12 20:06:25 91k+K+ks BE:608705036-2BP(100)
>>170
次回から削除関連の話題に関しては下のスレッドにお願いしますね
Let's talk with Jim-san.on HK.
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板)
172:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/12 21:06:32
>>165
Nice phone, does it have java virtual machine and vpn available on it?
173:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/12/12 21:59:12 SJXADkZK
>>172
basically same as Moto A1000. supports MIDP 2.0 . preloaded with movianVPN,so
it's IPsec ready. Unfortunately it's rather a minority device.
174:翔PC ◆KEEa96Ecz.
09/12/12 22:08:43 5Hl/clxf
Jim-san こんばんは☆ミ^ｪ^彡
元気ですか？
私は元気です。
2009年も、あとわずかですが、素敵なクリスマスを迎えてくださいね。
Good night ミ^ｪ^彡
175:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/12 22:38:38
>>174
I hope we have a nice christmas too.
176:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/12 22:39:46
>>173
We have a few glitches with the vpn, but it will be ready soon.
It is not such a minor device.
177:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/12 22:40:20
>>171
Yes please talk there, then we don't break the continuity.
178:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/12 22:42:04
>>174
I plan to go to the beach for Christmas. I have checked and they have internet access
there, so if there is a problem I can be online.
179:名無し編集部員
09/12/12 23:16:07 lxpBVNIF
Jim-san,過去ログ削除の件、よろしく取り計らい下さい。
180:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/13 08:34:18
>>179
おはよう ございます
ここですか？
181:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/13 10:02:57
I will be outside working on my wall. I really don't understand how come
ID:lxpBVNIF requests belong here. I checked and saw that our deletion volunteers
had deleted the request. Thank you deleters for that. I did not like the barb about
the previous deletion leader. Although there is nobody with that title, there are
several people that have filled the shoes of that quitter. Please post deletion related
inquiries on Let's talk with Jim-san on HK.
182:名無し編集部員
09/12/14 12:58:07 2Ge6uC0N
Jim-san
半角二次元板を荒らす◆9eP2POQ/K2を規制してください
このように、明確な荒らし宣言をしています
半角二次元板自治スレ17
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(ascii2d板:932番)
932 名前：＾ｗ＾ ◆9eP2POQ/K2 [sage] 投稿日：2009/12/13(日) 16:04:17 ID:eEXl0D7L
>>931
煽り荒らしはスルー、というのは掲示板では基本中の基本ですよね
オレが湧いてもスレが荒れないように、自ら自衛して下さい
ガイドラインに引っかからない範囲で行動していますので、
私を規制させるのは非常に困難なことかと思います。
基本、インターネットは荒らす方が有利に出来てるんです。諦めましょう
スルーしろとはよく聞くが大抵は誰かが反応して荒れる事になりますし、
こちら側にしてみればガイドラインを盾に行動してますので、住人としては泣き寝入りするしか無いですね
あなたがスレッド内においてリーダー的存在にでもなり、住民の皆さんを落ち着かせるよう積極的に努力してください。
183:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/12/14 13:52:29 FdftnPpK
>>181
私は壁の外で働くことになっているようです。ID:lxpBVNIFの申し入れをなぜ
ここで扱うべきなのか理解できません。ボランティアが申し入れを処理したことを
確認もしました。尽力に感謝します。昔の削除リーダーに関す煽りは好きでは
ありません。現在カラのそのポストには何人かが詰めています。削除に関する
問い合わせはLet's talk with Jim-san on HK(ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板))
にお願いします。
184:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/15 08:19:28
>>183
Thank you for explaining. I have tightened the security on the yomi server.
Lets see if that helps some with the vandalism.
185:名無し編集部員
09/12/15 13:30:29 4X71vEgW
こんにちは Jimさん。
p2を経由して yomi.bbspink.com にある板に書き込もうとしたら、
「書き込みました。」と表示されているのに、スレッドに反映されていません。
いわゆる「レスが吸い込まれる」という状態になっています。
これは venus.bbspink.com と同様にp2経由の書き込みを規制したということでしょうか？
それとも、規制システムの誤作動で書き込めなくなっているだけなのでしょうか？
186:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/15 15:27:54
>>185
I am testing some settings. It is very strict right now. I can make it stricter, but
I am trying to find the happy setting for everyone.
まつ しか ない、いいです、たぶん。
187:名無し編集部員
09/12/15 15:59:16 4X71vEgW
>>186
お返事、ありがとうございます。
わかりました。待ちます。
188:名無し編集部員
09/12/15 16:18:09 4X71vEgW
よく見たら、>>183 で Jimさんが "I have tightened the security on the yomi server." とはっきり書いてますね……。
見落としていました。すみません。
189:名無し編集部員
09/12/15 19:10:28 Ch3EUpsj
p2経由書込み全規制はタイト過ぎだよ～
190:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/15 21:35:28
>>187-189
You are welcome.
191:名無し編集部員
09/12/15 21:54:25 6j9u3Ghg
Jimさん、yomi鯖にP2で書けるように戻してくだしあ＞＜
192:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/15 22:02:59
>>191
I am working on it right now. Please wait.
193:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/15 22:18:39
>>191
Try it now.
194:名無し編集部員
09/12/15 22:22:52 6j9u3Ghg
>>193
ｷﾀ━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━!!!!
書けました！！！！！！！
ありがとうございます<(_ _)>
195:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/15 22:35:23
>>194
Your welcome. Be careful it is still set very strictly.
Good night...:)
196:名無し編集部員
09/12/15 22:57:23 6j9u3Ghg
>>195
おやすみなさい
,/i★､
⌒Y ~ ﾐﾞ／⌒ヽ､＿
ﾞ;､,,,,,ﾐ/＿＿＿__／
￣￣￣￣￣￣
197:名無し編集部員
09/12/16 01:23:38 ZR6Hhxa1
Mr.Jim goddess & 'ニー速(pink), Please release
198:名無し編集部員
09/12/16 12:58:20 /mEAh87H
>>182もよろしくお願いします
件の荒らしが、またこのような挑発を行っております
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(ascii2d板:979番)
979 ：＾ｗ＾ ◆9eP2POQ/K2 ：2009/12/15(火) 19:03:59 ID:bK5II3G6
>>977
はたからみれば
確かにキチガイにみえるかもしれない。
ただし、ガイドラインなどルール上、荒らしというもにのには
まったく該当せず、お前が喚いたところでどうしようも出来ないよ。
あと、スレ立て時にコテをつかっているということで削除依頼してる馬鹿がいるけど
スレ立て時の名前にコテハンを使った、というだけではガイドルール上非該当なので、依頼するだけ無駄であることを理解してね。
もしくは、そういった誤った削除依頼をしてると「PINKちゃんねるに対する迷惑行為」と判断されるので注意してね。
基本、2ｃｈ/BBSPINKは俺みたいにルールさえ、触れるようなことしなければ
かなり自由に遊びまわれるようになってる仕組みになってるからあきらめてね。
基本的に運営は君みたいに根拠のない愚痴や自演認定（笑）の味方になってくれないから。
199:名無し編集部員
09/12/16 13:26:50 R2IEKusH
URLﾘﾝｸ(volcano.phivolcs.dost.gov.ph)
Mayon Volcano どうよ？
200:名無し編集部員
09/12/16 13:31:20 hRGT5wlw
>>182
>>198
あなた>>91？
報告スレ見てきたけど、あれじゃ通らないに決まってる
・スレ違いの画像であるなら、削除依頼を提出すること
・それがマルチコピペや連投行為であるなら、迷惑行為として｢適切な｣報告スレを立てること
・そうではなく固定HNで発言しているだけなら、専ブラ導入して ◆9eP2POQ/K2をNG登録
> またこのような挑発を行っております
その挑発に乗っかった時点で、相手の土俵に立ってしまってるということをお忘れなく
201:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/16 17:04:34
おっす
202:名無し編集部員
09/12/17 12:32:32 CwJCbULf
>>200
>>198ですが、>>91とは別人です
◆9eP2POQ/K2は単にレスで荒らすだけではなく、テンプレを改変した荒らし目的でのスレ立て、
削除依頼板において意味のない削除依頼を大量に行い、削除依頼スレの機能を麻痺させるなど、
多種多様にわたる荒らしを行っており、既に各人がNGに入れれば解決するという段階は過ぎ去っています
Jim様、この悪質な荒らし◆9eP2POQ/K2の規制をお願いします
203:197
09/12/17 14:23:04 2RAFVeqb
良い人だと聞いてたが普通に気分屋でスルーすんのな
204:名無し編集部員
09/12/17 14:32:17 9y0RwfzA
依頼っつーよりもはやコピペと化してるからじゃね
205:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/18 07:51:02
I have been having a lot of connection problems lately.
Maybe I have been blocked....:(
206:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/12/18 11:38:24 IK8l/H6A
lololololol admin blocked from own board...
<< Your IP will be blocked in 3...2... >>
207:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/18 11:44:07
We will have our company Christmas party today.
書き込みに失敗しました
ＥＲＲＯＲ：再度ログインしてね。。。
208:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/18 12:18:59
It flies!
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.heraldnet.com)
209:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/18 12:39:30
>>206
hehehehe
orz
210:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/12/18 14:10:52 IK8l/H6A
ddで取ったバックアップから復旧しようと思ったらLive Linux環境がない…
CD焼きたくない…昔使ったのは腐って読めない…
>>208
let's hope it won't suddenly *poof* like a dream.
211:名無し編集部員
09/12/18 16:13:52 qeGkfu3w
TO JIM-san:
There is a problem on a 2ch burbon system (perhaps because what you have done at >>191-193 )
Details are below(Japanese)
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(operate板:528-536番)
They may turn off the burbon system for bbspink if the problem persists(res536).
(Burbon system -> One of regulation systems against vandals that kicks out
IP address to .htacess deny status temporary(2 hours) when it does too many
requests in a specfied time(10 min) to a server.)
212:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/12/18 17:21:45 IK8l/H6A
528 ：未承諾広告※ ◆Rock54hC3G0C ：2009/12/18(金) 14:09:54 ID:YYltcV870
Do burbon generation order originate from f22base?
I doubt "HostnameLookups" be set "On" in PINK server's apache.
Apache access-log expected to have IP addresses, instead of hostname, and those servers send those logs with hostname on it...
And boubon-generator lists them up, without ever imagine what they are dealing with is a list of hostnames...
Maybe something like that.
btw, I think I see strange query from tiger506(stats)... some hook commands?
>664 名前： 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる [sage] 投稿日： 2009/12/15(火) 23:25:47 ID:BLsP+gMa0
>
>32 BBON.set.799 mimizun.st.wakwak.ne (mimizun.st.wakwak.ne.jp ) 8
>33 BBON.schiphol.589 kynfb-08p4-23.ppp11.odn.ad (kynfb-08p4-23.ppp11.odn.ad.jp ) 8
>
>BBQ not responding
>------ END ------
>
>18:31 ～ yomi goes bad
>22:31 ～ all pink's went bad
>22:41 ～ now nobody's left...
530 ：動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる：2009/12/18(金) 14:41:53 ID:k6rU9axQ0
There were some operations at that time;
Let's talk with Jim-san. Part15
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erobbs板:191番)-193
531 ：root▲▲ ★：2009/12/18(金) 15:07:06 ID:???0
>>528
For reload-burbon generation ops., that's correct.
It goes enabled on all server with F22 on.
532 ：root▲▲ ★：2009/12/18(金) 15:08:24 ID:???0
So, what should I do?
- stop kicking reload-burbon generator on bbspink servers from f22base
or something else?
533 ：root▲▲ ★：2009/12/18(金) 15:10:23 ID:???0
>>528
We have Post burbon and New-thread burbon, in
addition to Reload-burbon. Maybe problem lies there.
534 ：root▲▲ ★：2009/12/18(金) 15:11:47 ID:???0
Is it working ok now?
URLﾘﾝｸ(qb6.2ch.net)
We'll standby till there will be response to >>528.
213:名無し編集部員
09/12/18 17:26:56 qeGkfu3w
TO JIM-san: (Latest news)
Burbon system for bbspink has stopped for now.
(Means bbspink is now vulnerable against crawler and server overload attempts)
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(operate板:543番)
The reason:
bbspink servers, unlike other 2ch servers, now passes host names instead of
IP address to the burbon systems. (after around the time >>191-193)
[The cause may be HostNameLookup of httped.conf value on bbspink servers are
changed from Off to On]
It makes whole burbon system to unstable status so they decided to disconnect
bbspink servers from the burbon system.
214:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/12/18 17:32:52 IK8l/H6A
535 ：root▲▲ ★：2009/12/18(金) 15:18:28 ID:???0
So, the causes, I think, are;
1) config changed on bbspink www server,
something not "inverted-ip-address.niku.2ch.net" started to come into BBQ.
2) BBQ(rbldns) won't respond to those invalid query, and will just drop'em.
3) neither direct query nor regular through-DNS query would have succeeded.
4) and that looks like timeout from issuer.
536 ：root▲▲ ★：2009/12/18(金) 15:27:39 ID:???0
Also I vaguely understand why みみずん is in burbon in bbspink.
Excluding reload-burbon uses IP address, so it won't work with
hostname, instead of IPs.
We'll wait for >>534, and if they decide to keep its settings,
I'm going to stop calling bbspink reload-burbon from f22base.
215:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/12/18 19:14:41 IK8l/H6A
[569]root▲▲ ★<>
2009/12/18(金) 18:45:29 ID:???0
confirmed a successful .htaccess scheduled update.
I think now issues has been solved,
but we still need a check.
1) bbspink had a system refit.
2) reload-bourbon was damaged in the process
3) all 2ch's .htacccess got poisoned by the corrupt bourbon
4) disconnected bbspink from reload-bourbon
5) de-toxed 2ch's bourbon system
6) de-toxed .htaccess for all of 2ch servers.
...was needed to do.
216:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/19 08:56:52
>>213
I have not turned host name lookups on. And no change to configuration.
However burbon system sounds very nice, but might be a duplicate of something we
already have.
Good morning Everyone.
217:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/19 08:59:08
>>215
All fixed now? Thank you for your help. I was so drunk. Now I am so hang over.
218:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/19 10:02:02
>>214
This concerns me.
1) config changed on bbspink www server,
something not "inverted-ip-address.niku.2ch.net" started to come into BBQ.
I did not change any configurations.
219:名無し編集部員
09/12/19 11:02:33 MmGEhcJs
The difference between pasegueno and burbon system is
burbon system is for valid for blocking too many threads creation,
too many postings, and too many reading requests (crawling)
to a server in a short period time(using ● or not), thus
helps to decrease server overloads and works as a tool
against vandals as a side effect.
220:名無し編集部員
09/12/19 11:27:58 MmGEhcJs
>>216
Another speculation from root-san may help?
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(operate板:581番)
581 名前：root▲▲ ★[] 投稿日：2009/12/19(土) 00:10:06 ID:???0
On the second thought after cool down,
<Another speculation>
I think Jim-san may added a tool to modify .htaccess for
doing "deny from [host name]" to the bbspink side servers
instead of changing httpd.conf value.
When Apache process [deny from host name] in a .htaccess list,
it does reverse DNS lookups for ALL accesses in order to match the list.
even if HostNameLookups in httpd.conf was off.
2ch servers were not made such a way, since reverse DNS lookups of
all accesses results severe performance penalty.
2ch handles and writes tools for "deny from [IP address]" only in
the past and won't change it in a future.
<Speculation end>
221:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/19 13:11:03
>>219
Yes, I understand. pasegueno is not set to stop reading requests, although that is
possible. Lets use burbon system for that.
Pasegueno is currently set to only stop to many writing requests.
>>220
Yes please cool down...:)
We have been using both ip and dns on the .htaccess for over one year now.
Is it a recent event that has caused this problem? Or it could be an error
or mistake by me. I make mistakes all of the time.
222:名無し編集部員
09/12/19 14:10:01 HDpDHpIo
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erobbs板:907番)-912
jim, you must go to hell!!!!!
223:名無し編集部員
09/12/19 14:12:57 MmGEhcJs
>>221
The trouble happened just after >>191-193, but
as >>215 says, the poisoning of main reload(reading)
burbon IP list with host names instead of IP address
was the cause. The poisoning may have gone slow
and did not cause fatal error until now if pink servers
were using host names for about a year now.
224:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/19 15:18:14
>>223
We are going to put dual stack ipv6 on pink servers soon.
Will 2ch also want to do this?
225:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/19 15:19:10
>>222
That is on this server.
URLﾘﾝｸ(yomi.bbspink.com)
226:trip ◆sO35uw8r6o
09/12/19 16:05:09 gy2ilmYR
>>224
Hi Jim-san.
What root-san is concerned about are hostnames on files for reload-bourbon,
which are collected by f22base server. He says malformed file force-enabled
reverse DNS lookups on all of 2ch servers, and caused malfunction in reload-
bourbon, In
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(operate板:585-595番) .
he mentioned that reload-bourbon will be configured to drop anything other than
IPv4 and v6 address, implying 2ch isn't negative to switch to v6. Also mentioned
is that reload-bourbon system has now disconnected from pink to prevent
further problems. I think I've seen root-san post in English. Maybe you can talk
to him directly on this issue.
Anyway, did you enjoy the party?
227:名無し編集部員
09/12/19 16:22:55 MmGEhcJs
>>224
ipv6...hmm...ipv6.2ch.net is around for about a year for testing purpose.
But it seems that it is not popular among users. Very little ISP supports
ipv6 in Japan and will take years for typical consumers to use it in common.
If ipv6 <-> ipv4 address conversion can be done without performance
penalty and has proven reliabity, it might be worth checking for them.
In my opinion, 2ch is very conservative as far as network is concerned though.
228:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/19 17:38:15
>>226
I think I caused that manually. I accidently broke the file I was editing it to test
when my internet connection failed.
I thought it would overwrite again in a few minutes and fix it.
I am the vandal...orz
229:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/19 17:39:11
>>227
I will keep you informed of the progress.
230:名無し編集部員
09/12/19 17:52:54 MmGEhcJs
>>228
One more opinion, if you would like to put the burbon system back to bbspink server:
There must be a file that contains ip address list to pass it to burbon system when
F22(burbon main server) requests it every 10 minutes. If you are going to fix something,
please make sure that the file does not include any host names in it. If you have no idea which
one is the correct file, it is a better idea to ask for it to root-san.
231:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/19 18:19:11
>>230
That is a nice idea. I can have a text file that I can put the known bad ips on
then send it to the burbon server.
232:名無し編集部員
09/12/19 21:27:08 gy2ilmYR
>>227
IPv4/v6デュアルスタックというのはたぶんJimさんが開発中の新型専ブラ関連だと思う
VPNで各ユーザにv6のIP振るんだっていうやつ
233:POE ★
09/12/20 00:41:17
どうしても英語で書き込みたい人は英語で書けばいいけど
それ以外は日本語で書き込んでもいいぞー
もっと管理人と話そう
翻訳人を泣かす事になるけど 存在意義があるってことです
234:名無し編集部員
09/12/20 06:52:07 syUvmhLF
>>233 says it's not worth talking here because most of the stuff are inJapanese.
It makes important things get ruined or fucked up and no true meanings get carried over.
What's the point if there are nothing that means something?
People should think more and try if they really want to convey something straight even if it still gives Jim-san tough time.
It is worth talking here if truely people want to talk.
235:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/20 07:50:21
>>233
はいはい Poe-さん
わたしは きかえました
236:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/20 07:53:40
＞＞２３４
ども ありがとう くださいました 英訳
237:名無し編集部員
09/12/20 08:07:25 syUvmhLF
>>236
Ay, anytime.
238:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/20 08:17:47
＞＞２３７ あなたは 引続き。
ども ありがとう ございます。
239:名無し編集部員
09/12/20 20:27:31 X+vdS1Kd
>>216-231
誰かこの辺りのJimさんのｺﾒﾝﾄを日本語にして頂けませんか・・・。
240:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/20 20:34:31
>>239
rootーさん の 懲らしめ 自夢
ど 自夢 orz と すみーません。
241:名無し編集部員
09/12/21 05:49:01 XNItPsWm
ぴんくチャンネルって中尾とかいうやつが管理してるんじゃないのかよ
242:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/21 08:49:42
>>241
この くつ わ はきにくい。
243:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/21 08:59:03
わたしは いく ここです。
URLﾘﾝｸ(surfsebay.allhyper.com)
244:名無し編集部員
09/12/21 10:20:14 BX2Sjla4
∧＿∧ /⌒ヽ
（ ・∀・）/ |ﾟ:: ﾟ;ﾟ ﾟ
⊂ / ﾟ.;ﾟ /; :;;
＼ / ｡ﾟ /.;.;:::
（ /／⌒￣⌒`´￣`～ヽ'ー--､
_／ ιυっ￣~つｙへつ
／ フっιつ人´ ／ ／つυ^っへ っっ
／ /つつ。ｏ/ / / / ^つっへυっつ
_/ 〉o°o。 。 / / ／°>つっっっつっっ
／ ＼γ､。 o 。 /ｏ。/ ／つっっつっつ
＿＿／ `⌒ヽっ/ 。/ ／ っつ） っつっつ
＝／ っっ τ-っつつっ､。| つ っつつつ
245:名無し編集部員
09/12/21 12:34:06 cffgEa08
a german bastard of my friends gave me some stupid urls through msn messenger.
here goes like this, URLﾘﾝｸ(imagees.im.ohost.de)
he also gave me some retarded faces too like :O.
watch out for these brainless assholes.
246:名無し編集部員
09/12/21 12:35:27 cffgEa08
and it tries to make me download some .exe.
well, fuck you.
247:名無し編集部員
09/12/21 13:35:32 HgXArQgx
>>239
・設定をいじったつもりはない
・IPとDNSの両方をずっと書き続けてるはず
・なんかいじったとき壊したかも
248:名無し編集部員
09/12/21 17:22:36 cffgEa08
that feeling was almost exactly the same as what i had when i watched english chat in "teacup".
i was truely ready to puke.
249:名無し編集部員
09/12/22 00:41:53 HQ67ZGFs
>>247
ありがとう。
250:X_Filed
09/12/22 16:22:32 mTSDoXpZ
Good day! I am Ronnie, I am the one who's developing the Pasegueno. There was a problem in the limit post of Pasegueno in the
.htaccess. To fix the problem I have removed the "deny from" that has a namespace characters. And at the mean time I will install
the older version of the Pasegueno.
251:名無し編集部員
09/12/23 09:47:13 O0FiGQCO
You guys should call root-tan instead of root-san :-D
252:名無し編集部員
09/12/23 09:54:17 37xg8Qik
>>251
shush.
253:北極ネコ ★
09/12/24 23:06:03
+ ｡ *
* .☆ ｡
ﾉﾐ'ヽ * ．
｡ イミ※ゝ ﾊ,,ﾊ
ノД♪ミゝ (*ﾟｰﾟ) Merry Christmas, Jim ☆
~⌒i⌒i⌒~ ～(っu'J + 。
"""""
254:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/27 15:57:18
>>253
Merry Christmas to you too. I just got back from the beach.
255:名無し編集部員
09/12/28 07:27:24 htERys3c
www.bonussonline.biz
shit, does anyone know what kinida crap this is?
one of my msn buds gave me it.
256:名無し編集部員
09/12/31 01:38:14 cCPB71aG
By when is the venus server restricted?
Please deregulate it
257:名無し編集部員
09/12/31 01:40:35 cCPB71aG
As for the P2 account
258:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/31 09:23:31
>>257
This is the p2 posting thread.
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erobbs板)
259:名無し編集部員
09/12/31 15:53:52 VvBTNcZC
Because it is useless even if you ask the manager
It asks Mr. jim
260:名無し編集部員
09/12/31 16:23:02 6qcgswd+
hello, people. what's wrong with you guys being so quiet?
it's the end of the year, why not take a place gathering together?
we still got some time left. let's do it.
261:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/31 21:22:48
>>259
It is not useless, please use
URLﾘﾝｸ(ula.cc)
here is how.
URLﾘﾝｸ(ula.cc)
262:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
09/12/31 21:31:00
>>260
Yayhay! It will be New Years soon.
263:名無し編集部員
10/01/01 04:37:59 w9nsrjYr
>>262
darn, it's already time in japan.
but we still have some time, don't we?
264: 【大吉】 【1093円】 ＠EROyVmNwwM ★
10/01/01 06:36:00 BE:135268122-2BP(100)
Happy new year. Jim-san
265:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/01 13:53:25
>>264
新年おめでとう
266:名無し編集部員
10/01/01 17:30:43 rtwilsUm
もうP2はvenus鯖永久規制と解釈して宜しいな？
P2なんぞ2度と使わねーよ
267:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/01 17:59:11
>>266
All the servers can use p2 except venus. However p2 is still picked up automatically
sometimes on other servers, but it is released automatically as well.
268:名無し編集部員
10/01/01 18:31:00 rtwilsUm
>All the servers can use p2 except venus.
It questions though it doesn't know whether venus is restricted until what time
269:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/01 20:27:06
>>268
すみーません
February 30, 2010
270:名無し編集部員
10/01/01 21:46:17 rtwilsUm
February 30ってアメリカンジョークのつもりか
要するに永久規制という事だな
271:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/01 21:57:26
>>270
貴方 の 資質英明 です
272:名無し編集部員
10/01/01 22:43:37 rtwilsUm
cleverとか言う位ならお年玉(New year's present)で解除して下さい
273:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/01 22:57:24
>>272
I forgot how...:(
274:名無し編集部員
10/01/01 23:09:14 rtwilsUm
Understood goodbye
275:名無し編集部員
10/01/02 12:45:16 Gi2E5yvy
○
／⌒＼ （＿_）
＼●／（＿＿）／⌒＼
∩ （・∀・ ）＼●／ HAPPY NEW YEAR
Y ￣ ||ｙ|| ￣`''φ
Lノ /ニ|| ! ソ >
乂/ﾉ ﾊ ヽー´
`ー-、＿_|
276:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/02 15:14:35
>>275
Happy new year to you too. I hope that 2010 turns in to a magnificient year, with
increased prosperity for all that desire it, and happiness for all that can accept it.
277: ◆EROyVmNwwM
10/01/02 15:42:48 DFYNzwUr BE:1521761459-2BP(100)
The p2 is restricted in the venus server now.
I want to deal with the cause of the restriction.
I want to make the Arashi act disappear.
If Arasi disappears, is the restriction released?
278:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/02 16:17:10
>>277
Yes of course, but I doubt human nature in that aspect.
はいはい おねがいします
いや あらし ＝ いや Restriction
279: ◆EROyVmNwwM
10/01/02 16:59:32 DFYNzwUr BE:270535924-2BP(100)
>>278
Yes, I understand.
I hope you write URL and the log of Arashi in that thread.
PINKの一部でp2書き込みできない件
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erobbs板)
I think about it by discussing it reading.
And, I report to ISP etc.
If there is an answer from ISP etc. , and the content is appropriate,
it is necessary to release the restriction.
How about such a methodology?
280:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/02 23:22:53
>>279
I will release it now, and then we can analize if trouble increases.
281: ◆EROyVmNwwM
10/01/03 00:11:39 IYxHRhEn BE:1082140984-2BP(100)
>>280
Thank you.
If the trouble increases, we will discuss it.
282:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/03 00:30:59
>>281
May the force be with us...;)
283: ◆EROyVmNwwM
10/01/03 00:39:41 IYxHRhEn BE:1521760695-2BP(100)
>>282
I also am wishing similarly.
284:名無し編集部員
10/01/03 01:05:45 uuRg6cDh
最低
285:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/03 09:59:07
＞＞２８４ たぶん
さいてい ＝ 裁定
いやだ 最低
286: ◆BBSPINKAys
10/01/04 17:23:47 D1sLPsNM
Hello jim-san.
I can't read some parts of History Logs. These two only give me "500".
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(leaf板)
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(leaf板)
This is "500".
URLﾘﾝｸ(wow.bbspink.com)
And these five cases say there is no dat found, but >>1 can be seen through a browser.
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erochara板)
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erochara板)
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erochara板)
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erochara板)
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erochara板)
jim-san, is there any way I can read these threads?
287:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/04 19:35:33
>>286
Wow, that is a problem. It could be that the cgi needs to be recompiled.
However I can't do that. I think all of idol has the same problem too.
I saw your post on this in Japanese, but I could not say the right words
so I did not comment.
Wow is first time I have heard the problem though.
Maybe Mumumu-san can help us if he is not to busy. He is a super busy guy.
I am not sure about the dat file problem. You are probably seeing the html
of it. The dat could have been deleted.
288:名無し編集部員
10/01/05 14:26:14 Mtb6reWG
Why RobinHood?
289:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/05 17:32:44
>>288
It is a wonderful story, full of battles and romance.
290:名無し編集部員
10/01/05 21:46:13 xscJHshV
あけましておめでとうJim
ところで、この大量規制ってアメリカに対する挑戦って本当？
アメリカに対するサイバーテロだってのは本当なの？
規制解除まだぁー？（･∀･ ）っ/凵⌒☆ﾁﾝﾁﾝ
291:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/05 23:06:45
>>290
hmmm. Tell me more. I have not heard. I don't live in the US.
292:名無し編集部員
10/01/05 23:15:50 h3L6B1yq
Foolishness is disregarded.
Mr jim
Please arrest it by the federal authority
if you like in the terrorism.
293:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/06 00:06:03
>>292
I think you are talking about the patriot act, that is several years old now.
294:名無し編集部員
10/01/06 01:47:12 pN7W5YJb
>291
そうだよねアメリカに住んでなかったね
ごめんね
で、夏に水害終わって最近そっちは火山爆発だっけ？
どうよ調子はww
295:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/06 07:28:22
>>294
The floods were terrible this year.
296:えろばぁーむ ★
10/01/06 19:53:16
Jimさん
お願いします。
I hope you see the following threads.
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:23番)
297:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/06 20:12:33
>>296
I will take a look now.
298:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/06 20:34:24
>>296
It is posted here.
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:85番)
299:えろばぁーむ ★
10/01/06 21:17:54
>>298
ありがとうございました。
300:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/06 21:51:19
>>299
どう いたし まして
Thank you for taking the time えろばぁーむーさん。
301:名無し編集部員
10/01/07 11:50:35 VDsUJgC2
Tanaka, nakanaka, IIMEGANE!
302:名無し編集部員
10/01/07 11:52:08 VDsUJgC2
Sorry, it was just a old commercial on TV.
TanakaVeryNiceGlasses! could be a translation to it.
303:名無し編集部員
10/01/09 14:46:53 PJX9q+dM
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erobbs板:206番)
304:名無し編集部員
10/01/10 12:21:20 3NSCM+g3
半角二次元板の削除依頼スレにおいて、Misuzuya ★が二度にわたって自分に都合の悪いレスを恣意的に削除しています
削除権を濫用し、言論弾圧を行うような人物は、削除人として不適当であり、即刻のキャップ剥奪を望みます
削除されたレスの内容は以下の通りです
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:545番)-546,548
305:名無し編集部員
10/01/10 17:51:17 roIe6IN+
p2規制解除で早速この状態です
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(megami板:745番)
306:名無し編集部員
10/01/10 17:58:54 z5rXQmI7
何でもかんでも書きゃ良いってもんじゃねぇぞオッサン
307:名無し編集部員
10/01/10 18:00:27 7sc+uhB8
>>305
なら転載厨の巣窟三沢のPC全部規制して貰えやボケｗｗ
308:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/11 12:45:01
>>304
This is excite translation.
In deletion request [sure] of two normal-width dimension board, Misuzuya *
abuses the deletion right to have deleted an inconvenient loess arbitrary,
is improper to me the person who suppresses speech extending over two times as those who delete it,
and hopes for the hair-trigger cap deprivation.
The content of the deleted loess is as follows.
---------------------
There is no hair trigger. Misuzuya has been CAP for a long time. It is absurd to ask
for that now.
309:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/11 12:53:00
>>305
Is there a problem again?
310: ◆EROyVmNwwM
10/01/11 13:25:13 HuDoeaD2 BE:1657028677-2BP(100)
>>309
We are discussing the problem.
That thread is a discussion hall.
女神板運用情報スレッド
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erobbs板:178番)-
311:名無し編集部員
10/01/11 15:09:10 A74ZaQO2
It truly blows when no one replies when you say something on Facebook.
Friends, friends, friends. What?
312:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/11 17:05:57
>>311
It just means you do not have any friends.
残念
313:Misuzuya ★
10/01/12 02:19:52
>>308
On the deletion request thread, we are not allowed writing except deleteing order.
By the board rule, Objections to the process should be conducted in 削除議論 thread.
I pointed it several times, but they continued the violation.
So, I deleted these writing, unfortunately.
314:えろばぁーむ ★
10/01/12 08:50:29
Jimさん
お願いします。
【作業】Jimさんおねがいします【依頼】
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:24番)
315:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/12 09:12:12
>>313
Misuzuya ★-san
You are a good guy. I know that. Don't worry.
316:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/12 09:26:06
>>314
おくった
317:えろばぁーむ ★
10/01/12 09:37:32
>>316
ありがとうございました。
318:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/12 13:14:02
＞＞３１７
どう いたし まして
乙 えろばぁーむ ★ーさん
319:えろばぁーむ ★
10/01/12 18:06:25
Jimさん、おねがいします。
【作業】Jimさんおねがいします【依頼】
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:25番)
320:Misuzuya ★
10/01/12 22:41:29
>>315
thank you, your one and one words help us. :)
321:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/12 22:47:41
>>320
大丈夫です
：）
322:名無し編集部員
10/01/13 01:28:17 NEVF1buB
Prostitution is a crime in Japan.
Should I contact police about these postings?
(means the police may contact you about the IP address disclosure)
Or, request the postings deletion and forget about them?
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(kageki板:300番)
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(cherryboy板:703番)
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(pub板:12番)
TRANSLATION:
12 名前：あっとC[] 投稿日：2010/01/12(火) 23:21:02 ID:0BY1ow870
I want to do prostitution because I dearly want money.
But I only have sexual intercourse experience twice.
I would like a man to lead me with about 30,000 yen.
Please mail me if you want me.
The mail address is not main(mean sub) address.
No tirekicker please.
I'm 11th grade(16-17 years old) girl *******@****.jp
323:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/13 07:48:06
>>322
What is a tire kicker?
This belongs on the housekeeping thread.
You can also read the Deletion guidelines here.
URLﾘﾝｸ(deleter.bbspink.com)
324:名無し編集部員
10/01/13 08:03:41 dw65CRpT
わたしは通報を望みません
325:名無し編集部員
10/01/13 09:18:08 u6H6zlnV
>>323
Tirekicker = window shopper - A person who look&ask around but never buy a thing.
I am familiar with the guideline. I was asking it because you might like to do anything
about child prostitution posting other than deleting. Never mind if you don't care about it.
326:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/13 10:48:12
>>325
If you are familiar, why the fuck are you asking me?
It is obviously a violation of the guidelines.
No dating, no email addresses, of course child prostitution.
327:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/13 10:49:57
Please let me make it clear.
Pink Channel is not moderated. If something is reported
then it can be deleted. Moderation makes for liability for the moderator.
>>325
Would you like to be a moderator?
328:名無し編集部員
10/01/13 11:13:18 u6H6zlnV
>>326-327
I don't understand why you get angry about it.
I know they are violation postings and would be deleted if I
post the url to the appropriate deletion thread.
Before I report the crime postings to the police, I just wanted
to ask you if it is what you want since the Japanese police may contact
you(and bother you) about the girl's IP address in order to arrest
her (or protect the child from another possible danger).
329:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/13 11:28:51
>>328
The police are aware how to contact me. I think you are just looking for and causing
trouble though. Nobody has two ages. You can't be both 16 and 17 at the same time.
330:名無し編集部員
10/01/13 11:35:55 u6H6zlnV
>>329
I am glad that now you understand that I'm not asking about the deletion
but your preference about police reporting.
高2＝高校2年生=11th grade=16 years old or 17 years old depending on her birthday.
331:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/13 12:06:41
>>330
The problem is you still don't understand. We don't report, because we don't monitor
the postings. There are to many postings, that is impossible.
The police contact me, when they need my help.
332:EROyVmNwwM ★
10/01/13 12:06:50
おつかれさまです。
なにをJimさんに求めているのでしょうか？
あなたが必要だと思うなら警察に通報すればいいし、
Jimさんの言質は不要だと思います。
PINKでのログ開示が必要と思うのなら議論しましょう。
大きくは児童ポルノの範疇ですので以下のスレがいいと思います。
■児童ポルノ芋掘り議論■4
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erobbs板)
333:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/13 12:18:04
>>332
We have started disclosing the log for that. It was done the other day.
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:38番)
334:EROyVmNwwM ★
10/01/13 12:21:09
>>333
おつかれさまです。
わたしは>>332を>>322について書きました。
335:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/13 12:26:13
>>334
Oh, I see. I think 322 is someone looking to cause trouble.
It is a leading question, like some lawyer might ask.
Please don't worry about that.
336:名無し編集部員
10/01/13 12:37:21 u6H6zlnV
>>331
The point was not you or as a bbspink should report it to the
police. I just would like to ask you if I should report it
to the police when I find the posting like that. I know it
will cause to take more time from you for responding to the
police. I'm just worried about it. Sorry about bothering you
about it. I am finished about this topic. Thank you.
>>332
言質というか、こういう投稿は結構あるので削除依頼だけでなく
積極的に通報するべきだと思いますかと聞きたかっただけだったので
すがねぇ。Jimさんが警察に対応する手間が増えるので削除依頼だけ
で済ます方が楽でしょうし。議論も面倒なんで適当にしときます。
気になさらずに。
337:EROyVmNwwM ★
10/01/13 12:45:02
>>336
そうですか、了解です。
これらも児童ポルノの範疇だと思いますので、
あなたが見つけたら報告をしてください。
対処が必要な案件があったらやりますです。
■ 児童ポルノ 通報・削除専用 ■
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板)
PINKにも２ちゃんねるにあるような
通報済み犯罪予告案件スレがあった方がいいかもしれませんね
338:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/13 15:04:19
>>336
I think you should do what you think is the right thing to do.
If you report that is not my business. I am against child prostitution,
I doubt that most of the posts are actually that, and some of them
may even be the police posting to trap individuals that would be interested
in that and get them off the street. I forgot the name of the show, but
there was even a TV show in the US, that followed police around as they
pretended to be young girls on the internet, and then arrested the people
that responded to their advertisements, their chat requests etc.
You do what you and your personal ethics tell you the right thing to do is.
Sorry if I seem to have insulted you. It is a tragic problem, and I don't think
it is something we can do anything about. I understand your frustration.
339:名無し編集部員
10/01/13 15:36:20 u6H6zlnV
>>338
No, I do not feel like I have insulted from you. I thought it might be a
some misunderstanding from my English writing or some kind of bias toward
Nonamer. I was trying to dispel the misunderstandings with other postings
of mine. The question was came from worry about increasing your workload.
Thank you for telling your idea toward it. I understand fully about it.
340:名無し編集部員
10/01/13 15:45:56 u6H6zlnV
One thing forgot to tell you - undercover operation is considered to be
illegal in Japan except drug investigation. Any evidence collected from
the operation cannot be used in the court.
341:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/13 16:40:42
>>340
From what I understand, the law is more of a guideline, than a rule, and if you show up
at a rendezvous, and meet the police, you found them on an nonamer bbs. I am sure
not going to bail your pedophile ass out by helping the police then, when most of the time
I make the police work very hard, so that I don't have to.
342:名無し編集部員
10/01/13 17:35:22 u6H6zlnV
Sometimes it is hard to understand your English....at first I thought
you are trying to insult me this time (I am not pedophile, rather
love 30-40 years old matured adult woman :p ) Although I've heard
that an adult who meet/talk a child met over nonamer bbs is arrested
and prosecuted in Canada, I think Japanese law is not so strict....yet.
343:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/13 18:00:23
>>342
No insult is intended. It is not pointed at you directly. It is pointed at the user
that would actually do that.
I have heard stories of other undercover operations in Japan. Is it true
there are detectives that go from soapland to soapland to try to find what
girls have intercourse with their vagina instead of their asshole?
344:名無し編集部員
10/01/13 18:34:58 u6H6zlnV
>>343
HaHaha...where did you heard such a hilarious story?
I should say almost all girls working at soapland use vagina. If it
is true, all soapland would have been shut down right away. There
are various reasons for business suspension of soapland, such as
hostclub's host sells a girl to a soapland operator for unpaid debt,
too much advertising for having sexual intercourse inside instead of
taking a bath, or allowed a customer to enter its buildings after
closing time(midnight). They happens in once in a year or two with
more than hundreds of soapland, and extremely rare case.
345:えろばぁーむ ★
10/01/13 18:59:24
Jim-san
I hope you read the following threads.
I am waiting for your work.
【作業】Jimさんおねがいします【依頼】
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板:25番)-26
346:POE ★
10/01/13 20:13:32
US法によって管理者が責任を負うものは 積極的に対応した方がいいと思う
がんばれジムさん
347:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/13 23:12:55
>>346
Hi Poe-san. I am sorry you think I am bad. I am really just a regular guy
trying to figure out what to do most of the time. orz
おやすみ なさい
348:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/14 10:42:23
>>344
Wow! hostclub sells girl for unpaid debt? That sounds intense. I have heard that
most host clubs are also owned by the hostess clubs.
This is similar to washing dishes in a cafe, if you don't have enough money to pay for
your meal.
I think the whole world thinks it is mostly anal sex going on at soapland, because
foreigners are not allowed in. Then the birth rate decreases in Japan.
I did not hear the story from a Japanese person though. It was from one of those
Japophiles in the USA.
349:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/14 16:05:43
I have been challenged to a fat off by another guy that works in my office building.
I am going to put the stats here, just so that I don't forget.
自夢 5'9", 30.9% Bodyfat, 34.9 kg fat, 113 kg weight.
My competitor 5' 9 1/4" 33.3% Bodyfat, 40 kg fat, 120 weight.
We have 90 days from today to see who loses the most bodyfat %
350:名無し編集部員
10/01/14 18:21:25 YpWJpmyq
>>348
Usually, if a girl who goes host club gets her debt pile up,
her host introduce her to a loan shark. The loan shark
usually charges 30% or 50% interest every 10 days. Thus
she has to go to soapland or other sex industries to pay back
in the end. The soapland operator in question had asked
the host to introduce someone with the promise of advanced cash.
It is rare, but some soapland allows foreigners to get in
for business entertainment needs of some Japanese company.
351:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/14 21:20:19
>>350
Hmmm. It sounds seedy and devious to me. I suppose it is a cultural difference.
Maybe it is not necessary for me to go to soapland. I prefer my women in binary mode.
352:名無し編集部員
10/01/14 23:41:12 YpWJpmyq
>>351
Off course, not all girls in soapland are there for their debt.
Some of them are for their ill health parents, for their dream
like to have their own store/shop, for earning academic fee, etc.
I think soapland is a necessary evil. They may have been contributing
to the Japanese low sex-related crime rate.
353:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/15 11:35:09
>>352
Most of those are good honest reasons to work in soapland.
The debt to the host club sounds like a scam. Is that what the Africans
in Shinjuku are doing?
354:花の案内人 ◆FLOWERqR32
10/01/17 19:49:43 OryoqVdt
最近ここに直訴や作業の催促に来られる皆様にお願がございます
Ladies and gentlemen, your attention please.
削除に関しての話は下記のスレでお願いします
If you want a talk about the deletion, use following thread:
Let's talk with Jim-san.on HK.
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(housekeeping板)
規制に関しての話は下記にお願いします
If you want a talk about the regulation, use following thread:
Let's talk with Jim-san.on RD.
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(ccc板)
ここはＪｉｍさんともっと楽しい話をするスレにしましょう?
Here, let's chat to be more delightful with Jim-san.
Let's talk with Jim-san. Part15
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erobbs板)
宜しくお願い致します
Thank you.
355:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/17 22:02:37
Thank you Flower-san. I will follow those threads.
356:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/18 20:23:26
Is everyone eating Dairy Milk today?
357:Iphone3gs ◆RnPZYQR9l19H ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/20 16:29:37
I finally got 3G on my phone! Yahoo
358:Iphone3gs ◆RnPZYQR9l19H ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/20 16:30:21
I finally got 3G on my phone! Yahoo
359:Iphone3gs ◆RnPZYQR9l19H ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/20 16:32:44
Sorry about the repeat my fingers are to big
360:Iphone3gs ◆RnPZYQR9l19H ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/21 09:29:28
おはよー
361: ◆EROyVmNwwM
10/01/21 09:40:15 lZ84On4g
>>360
おはようございます。
今日は、とても暖かいです。
362:Iphone3gs ◆RnPZYQR9l19H ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/21 09:48:37
元気ですか？
363: ◆EROyVmNwwM
10/01/21 10:43:10 4wTwC3Sb
>>362
はい、わたしは元気です。
あなたの携帯電話の具合はどうですか？
364:RobinHood ◆enUEIWqQt2 ＠Apparently admin ★
10/01/21 11:05:47
>>363
オフィスの今では。私はようやく私の携帯電話から投稿することができた。それは私が初めてだ。
私は処女の携帯電話のポスターだった。
365: ◆EROyVmNwwM
10/01/21 12:35:11 4wTwC3Sb
>>364
I am not good at POST by the cellular phone.