09/10/09 13:14:56 LZxwg9AL
つ 汗ビール
te iuka Jimsan kotae kudasina. onagaisiatsu.
313:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/09 13:26:22
>>312
辯?
314:300
09/10/09 13:38:30 LZxwg9AL
辯?? ←What a f××k is this?
ビール＝biiru＝beer
汗ビール→kan beer(Canned beer) →sweat beer
・・・・・・・By the way, do it answer and may I have it? www
315:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/09 13:43:06
＞＞３１４
辯 = ベン たぶん べん
It is a speech dialect. I was asking you if you were using a dialect of Japanese.
316:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/09 13:46:43
>>314
汗ビール
This is excellent. It means sweat beer, canned beer, and king beer.
Budweiser is the king of beers, so maybe this is a good name for Bud.
317:名無し編集部員
09/10/09 13:59:47 LZxwg9AL
>>316
www
Jimsan your so fanny.
I do not have wanting drink of the beer with a lukewarm smell like the sweat.
A Belgian beer is also delicious though Bud is good.
318:名無し編集部員
09/10/09 14:11:18 LZxwg9AL
>>312
>te iuka Jimsan kotae kudas(a)ina. onagaisi(m)a[t]su.
→て言うか、ジムさん 答え 下さいな。 お願いします。
→By the way, do it answer and may I have it?
This is not a dialect but a Roman alphabet.
319:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/09 14:11:18
>>317
Lukewarm beer is English beer. I don't care for it either.
I never had Belgian beer, what is a good brand?
320:名無し編集部員
09/10/09 14:26:05 LZxwg9AL
I like cold Bud more.
Does not "Beer like the urination of the horse" have the word? ww
Belgian beer：Duvel I like cold Bud more.
Does not "Beer like the urination of the horse" have the word? ww
Belgian beer：Duvel (General. Taste near dark beer)
La Chimay Rouge (General. Faint, sweet smell)
Looking for the thing suited one's taste is happy because there are terribly a lot of kinds.
321:名無し編集部員
09/10/09 14:27:38 LZxwg9AL
miss・・・・orz
I like cold Bud more.
Does not "Beer like the urination of the horse" have the word? ww
Belgian beer：Duvel (General. Taste near dark beer)
La Chimay Rouge (General. Faint, sweet smell)
Looking for the thing suited one's taste is happy because there are terribly a lot of kinds.
322:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/09 14:34:00
>>Does not "Beer like the urination of the horse" have the word? ww
You would say it like this. "This beer tastes like horse piss."
It is a common saying. Is it common in Japanese as well?
ビールの駒尿
323:名無し編集部員
09/10/09 14:34:28 LZxwg9AL
urination・・・・・・piss? may be. should be
324:名無し編集部員
09/10/09 14:36:43 LZxwg9AL
I think it is general in modern days.
325:名無し編集部員
09/10/09 14:52:08 NTQ5gRt4
>>322
馬の小便みたいなビール should be more accurate, though I've never heard of term like that.
ビールの駒尿 means "beer's horse-urine". 駒(koma) is a bit old letter now used under limited situation,
like 駒犬(koma-inu, sculpture of a dog in Jinja gates).
326:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/09 15:09:17
>>324 この？ 將
327:名無し編集部員
09/10/09 15:23:48 LZxwg9AL
將 ？？？ → I must say that again "What a F**k is this"
Is it this thing?
syou? 小便（syou-benn)?
o! general?
I mean
Usually
Popularity.
Usually
Oh... The F**k one is me. orz
me and Translation machine are F**k.
328:名無し編集部員
09/10/09 15:34:23 LZxwg9AL
It was fanny time. Thanks Jim-san
It is time that I go out.
By the way, do it answer and may I have it? >>305
Please.
Jah-ne-
329:名無し編集部員
09/10/09 15:48:09 LZxwg9AL
Again at the end
>>328 Supplementation
Will you increase the number of those who delete it more?
Will you think that the translator is necessary?
Are they : even for a fee?
Will you make it before deciding the MARU rule?
bye!
330:名無し編集部員
09/10/09 17:44:26 1XLjD8PI
いつから有料化するんですか
331:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/09 19:56:54
>>328
Yes at >>301
332:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/09 19:57:16
>>327
Yes, mine to is farked.
333:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/09 19:57:50
>>328
What is fanny time? Fanny is a girls name in English.
It is also slang for your butt.
334:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/09 20:00:46
>>329
Deleters are volunteers, I am happy to increase them.
Some of them have left because of a loyalty to someone else.
They should reconsider that, even though my Japanese is bad.
I am much more loyal to them that that other nameless person.
It would be nice to have a Japanese translator. I think I posted
a request for that a while back. There are Japanese employees
at my company, but I do not force participation on 2ch, or bbspink.
(Maybe I should), but they are not very sukebe oriented at least
publicly, so I do not force that.
335:名無し編集部員
09/10/09 20:10:25 MfKAvBWb
> they are not very sukebe oriented at least publicly
笑ったｗ
頑張ってください
336:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/09 22:41:34
Good night
337:名無し編集部員
09/10/09 23:12:25 tZocbxQY
I have bad night....
338:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 01:47:59 W/+/G1la
>>301
> Maru is for making things run smoothly on bbspink and 2ch.
> It is a way to discourage bad users, as they can be canceled
> and controlled easier.
注意事項
URLﾘﾝｸ(2ch.tora3.net)
> 7
> 以上の規約に違反した場合は、それを「止める権利」を当社が行使します。
> システムの安全性が失われる場合、また、その可能性がある場合、
> 2ちゃんねるより要請があった場合は、
> 取得されたアカウントを予告無く中断または停止する場合があります。
> アカウント停止によりユーザーが不利益を被った場合においても、当社は一切の責任を負いません。
jimはbbspinkを荒らしたアカウントを簡単にコントロール出来るの？
bbspinkと2chに対して別々にコントロールする予定？
bbspinkと2chに対して同時に停止するの？
> 2
> 閲覧認証サービスをご利用いただくにあたり
> 当社は、Webページに過去ログ閲覧認証機能を提供し、 ユーザーは、その認証機能を利用して、過去ログを閲覧する事が出来ます。
> 利用者が閲覧認証申込を行い、認証登録が成された時点で認証登録予約者と 当社において契約が成立（２ちゃんねる過去ログ情報へのアクセス）するものとします。
> 日本におけるサポートは株式会社ゼロが行います。
「2chの閲覧認証サービス」のMaruが、「bbspinkの投稿保障サービス」を約束するの？
339:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 02:05:33 qb5c39rK
> 日本におけるサポートは株式会社ゼロが行います。
ゼロを通さない●の買い方ってあるの？
340:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 02:14:55 x65mw03g
I think it's not bad idea to softlanding curent abuse probrems.
We should be going "High-risk" to "Middle-risk" bbs.
It is recognizable roadmap for me.
341:Misuzuya ★
09/10/10 02:15:06
>>340 me
342:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 02:17:22 4l7Z9t/0
人格障害者を閉め出して、pink板に僅かばかりの平和を下さい。
我らのボス。
343:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 02:49:09 AI16Z+Vd
It's me court Itsumi death.
344:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 03:08:57 4U+T9ctW
>>339
するどいねー
Jimの本音は、ゼロを通さないで●を売りたいんだな。
つまり、全部丸儲けにしたい、と。
345:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 11:22:32
>>337
I hope you have a better day today.
346:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 11:25:27
>>340
Misuzuya-san, please tell me more of the roadmap you see.
Your vision might be very good, but I would like to hear it.
If you need to use Japanese only that is ok.
347:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 11:29:41
>>342
どう する？
348:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 11:31:24
>>344
My intention is clear. It is to fix the vandalism problem to protect our 女神 board
and other boards. I am testing many ways now.
Maru is one way, and it is being discussed here now.
349:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 11:32:55
I am testing some new regulations now. If you have problems with them.
Please report them here.
I hope they will be seemless, and not affect the majority of our users.
350:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 11:38:41 UVvuCdCr
>>344
JimさんとZeroは明らかに盟友的な位置にいるだろ。
関係を壊滅的にするような事をするわけはないだろ…
351:mankatsu
09/10/10 11:53:06 UVvuCdCr
>>338
直訳：
-Do Jim san have access and authorization to control accounts with
rude behaviour?
-Are you planning to separate the account restriction of 2ch and bbspink?
OR
-Are you planning to ban the account for both sites if user is banned
from bbspink?
-Maru is for ensuring the viewing of 2ch.net, and I guess it is ensuring
viewing of bbspink as well?
自夢さん、わたしは すけべ です。
352:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 12:26:38
>>350
They are my friends.
353:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 12:28:34
>>351
I have access to the servers. I am discussing this and hearing everyone's opinion
right now. I have not made any decisions at all.
Currently I am testing some agressive settings on Pasegueno. It is only
testing, but it needs to be done, because I want to control vandalism if possible.
354:mankatsu
09/10/10 12:43:31 UVvuCdCr
>>353
の直訳
私はサーバーにアクセスする権限を持っています。 現在皆さんと意見を
交換し、皆さんの声を聞いています。現在決定事項などはありません。
現在Pasegueno（掲示板用セキュリティアプリケーション）の設定を
通常より厳しくしています。 あくまでテスト中ですが、これは行うべき事です。
なぜならば荒らしに対し可能であればコントロールをしたいからです。
355:mankatsu
09/10/10 12:49:48 UVvuCdCr
>>352
Jimの友人のmankatsuです。
時間がある時に翻訳させていただきます。 不定期になるかもしれませんが
Jimの役に立てれば幸いですのでよろしくお願いします。
356:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 12:52:33
>>355
ども ありがとう
わたしは すけべ です。
357:mankatsu
09/10/10 13:00:27 UVvuCdCr
どもどもー
わたし も かなり すけべ です。
358:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 13:10:27 QmSLVHtM
＿＿＿_ ﾓﾁｬﾘ
／ ＼ﾑｼｬﾑｼｬ
／ ⌒ ⌒ ＼ wft u guys talking about.....
／ （●） （●） ＼ thankyouverymuch
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so what about kicking out Marus from some boards like Magami?
that may trolling less comfortable, i think.
359:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 13:14:25
>>358
Actually I am watching the vandal posts now and most are coming from p2.
360:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 13:47:39 7IjWQTAW
タイ・フィリピン・インドとかに行くと、
「しめしめ、カモにしてやるぜ」っていう相手に「オーマイフレンド、キミのためなら何でもするよ」って、
現地人がよく言うけど。
この人の「My friend」は、ほとんどそれだね。
要注意。
361:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 14:05:23 jQNxdfsO
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362:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 14:07:19 SFYB5aWO
>>359
Thanks for response. Is it possible to find user-vandal ratio?
363:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 14:16:02
>>362
I am sorry, I am American. My math skills suck.
364:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 14:16:47
>>363
What I have been looking at is the complaints on housekeeping.
So far what I have seen, many were p2.
365:POE ★
09/10/10 14:27:42
ジムさん 生きてたか 良かった
その場所 伝染病 平気かい？
366:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 14:37:02 SFYB5aWO
>>363
'kay, I'm also not good at dealing with numbers, aside what about disabling post through p2?
p2 users should still be able to post directly from their connection, while trolls can't use p2 to
obfuscate their origin of connections or avoid limitations like minimum post intervals.
367:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 14:41:08
>>366
I was thinking about that, but I think p2 has a reporting system.
I have the p2 id of the most violent one right now. I would like
to report it to p2 so they can disable it. Lets try that first.
368:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 14:43:49
>>366
わたしは 元気です。
たくさん 死に至る病 マニラ デス。
369:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 14:53:40 SFYB5aWO
>>367
So you mean per-account p2 ban may solve a large portion of issues we've been talking about?
or report-delete-ban cycle isn't working well?
370:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 14:54:21
>>369
I think starting with per account is best.
I hate to block the whole thing.
371:POE ★
09/10/10 15:02:10
掲示板の管理 必要
特にその場所では 健康管理も 必要
気をつけて
Paseguenoは これらを できる？
p2アカウントの規制←観察中
IPアドレスによる規制
ENVの携帯シリアル番号による規制
HTTP_X_EM_UID
HTTP_X_JPHONE_UID
HTTP_X_UP_SUBNO
HTTP_X_DCMGUID
372:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 15:08:31
>>371
The version we are working on now can do all of that.
Currently it can do this.
>>p2アカウントの規制←観察中
>>IPアドレスによる規制
373:POE ★
09/10/10 15:24:00
がんばれジムさん
>>372
響きがいい
per-アカウントの規制 が確実か？
ENVの携帯シリアル番号による規制も 次に試して
状況は秘密でも 結果を教えてください
374:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 15:35:43
>>373
I can do that too, but the program will have to be modified.
It is definately something that will happen fast.
You are a good guy with very good advice. Thank you.
375:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 16:01:40
Can someone refresh my memory on how to report p2 user?
I was told before but I have forgot.
376:POE ★
09/10/10 16:02:48
>>374
どういたしまして
あなたも です
気をつけて欲しい事
それが規制対象なのかどうかを調査する必要があります
そして その判断には ある程度の 約束があります
377:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 16:05:33 hxBi+Mge
はじめまして。BBSPINK管理人のJimです。
<example addresses here>
のようなp2-user: <uidhere> による多数のガイドライン
違反投稿を受けているのですが、書き込み権限の停止をお願いできますか?
Hello, I'm Jim, BBSPINK admin.
We're having multiple posts violating guidelines like
<example addresses here>
from p2-user: <uidhere>. Would you please revokethis user's posting permission?
378:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 16:41:27
>>377
Thank you, but where do I send it?
379:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 16:46:41 hxBi+Mge
>>378
【BBQ＆BBM47本目】公開串登録所【ピンポイント規制】
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(sec2chd板)
380:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 17:20:58
>>379
Thank you. I reported the worst one there just now.
I hope I did it correctly.
381:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 17:47:34 DJzCQ+oB
<example addresses here>
↑I think that you should write like this.:
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(erobbs板:377番) 2009/10/10 16:05:33 ID:hxBi+Mge
382:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 18:37:48 bZagC+7m
報告書式でなくでもだいじょうぶかと
数はある程度あった方がいいのでは
383:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/10 18:55:37
>>381
I corrected it. I am very sorry for the mistake.
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(sec2chd板:644番)
384:POE ★
09/10/10 21:25:27
ワォ
LR違反で焼かれたんだね
しかも七宝焼きさんが
次からは URL表記のPINK-GL7で報告した方が あちらを困らせない
>>ジムさん
その違反の種類は この際 気にしないけど
転載のレスポンス数はどれくらいあった？
過去の他の規制が どれくらいの量で 規制開始されているかも確認してみてください
出来れば こう言う立場に成って欲しい
「これくらいの量では 規制しないです」
今回の件を 一般利用者が まとめ報告していた場合 同じ処理だったのだろうか
385:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 21:30:17 bZagC+7m
それはないっしょ
386:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 21:32:46 JfgzHL2/
ジムさん、ありがとー。
387:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 21:52:24 uUFUt8FX
Jim-san
Thank you really.
388:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 21:54:20 NqhQmiP4
Jim thnak you.
I love you.
389:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 22:12:25 ukvWO0ay
I was glad to know that you care about 荒らし.
Thank you sincerely!
390:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 22:20:20 B3H2u6nf
congrats
391:名無し編集部員
09/10/10 23:39:37 K22p6XQL
jim-pussy. lol
392:Misuzuya ★
09/10/11 00:17:47
>>346
Lastest goal is "fixed for managementable scale bbs for Jim".
It is required for inform that you have a right to control writing permission.
This is your bbs, Now you are exact true manager, I think. :)
Declaration your intention, "bbspink is middle-risk bbs" for users,
again, again, whenever opportunity.
There are many users who think that bbspink is "admin-less bbs".
393:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/11 11:21:29
>>384
The reporting worked. It was very surgical, actually I was worried
that they would just ignore my post.
394:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/11 11:22:03
>>385
and the sun is eclipsed by the moon.
395:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/11 11:31:03
>>386-391
大丈夫 です。
396:ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ ◆YE6tMtjT7Q8t ＠Apparently admin ★
09/10/11 11:34:45
>>392
It is important to understand that bbspink is not a moderated
bbs. When the rules are violated and reported we do something about it.
Thank you for your help and advice, it is appreciated.
Can you tell me what you mean by middle-risk? Is that the shade
between black and white?