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Chris> I'm curious as to what people decided this was a necessary requirement.
Chris> solving a real-world problem is much more interesting to listen to that filling in a check-box on a (somewhat dubious) specification
Chris> I would just like some examples of real-world needs and an explanation of why it's needed. Not handy-waving.
Chris> Those are just marketing words.
Chris> maybe, but i'm far from convinced it's necessary and therefore warrants a big ugly kernel patch
Chris> are you serious? .... please, prove me wrong, show us some code
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Andi> Didnt review more.
Kyle> One thing to remember, though, as there _is_ a very clean method to do this from userspace, therefore you are not likely to get much sympathy on this list.
Pavel> Maintain your own patches; if that seems too hard, do the right thing.
Andi> Your full patch is just a funky ptrace equivalent as far as I can see.
Valdis> If you're looking at doing on-the-fly patching, you're probably also carrying around a lot of *other* ugly cruft to make this creeping horror work on Linux.
Kyle> But you miss the point. Linux is *NOT* about "business", or "enterprise", or "mission-critical". Linux is (at least to many hackers) about hacking, having fun, and Good Design(TM).
Kyle> The kernel is not about business, demand, or what the CEO of some big-name company wants. The kernel strives for the goal of "Good Engineering (TM)"
Pavel> Clearly noone but you wants to make kernel more ugly just for "faster ptrace".
Andi> I think you have a lot of unproved and doubtful assumptions here.