06/12/23 00:58:29 0
>>831
Oh, yes. I did mix Paris's father up with Donald Trump.
If I remember correctly, he is called the king of real estate business.
Maybe I shouldn't assure how he was dubbed knowingly.
Chances are I'm wrong again. :)
>You say that the agency of a Kano sister started a rumour that she was
>dating a celebrity and her popularity went up?
I wouldn't use the word "pupularity." It's just that the rumor made
her widely known to general public because after the rumor they got to
appear on TV often. It's hard to explain but in my opinion, not many
people respect them. They tell on TV how gorgeous life they live
and how men overseas want to go out with them. The older sister
boasts about how she was asked to go out with men overseas.
The more they show off (even if what they say is true) the more
they sound stupid.
>I am guessing that a Japanese celebrity's popularity is directly
>related to how much that person appears on TV?
In most cases, such as idols and young actors whose target audience is
young people , yes. But there are exceptions. Some musicians try not
to appear on TV often to make them look mysterious. Being on magazines
can be a yardstick to measure how popular they are in Japan, too.
But is being on a TV show more infuluential and can reach more people
than being on a magazine in terms of the traits of these two media?
I know People magazine. There's similar one titled "US". Again I shouldn't
say knowingly. hehe There are weekly photo magazines with photos of
famous people's private life. If a young female actor or singer, say,
one of the members of morning musume or something is taken her photo
while dating a man by a photographer of the magazine, chances are
her dedicated male fans would be shocked and dissaponted, sometimes
feel betrayed.
Another yardstick to measure popularity is in how many TV ad actors and
singers appear.
>>832-833
日本人。ある程度の英語は書けるけど、言いたいことを表現するのは難しい。
ネイティブや日本人でも英語がうまい人が読めば、俺の英語はおかしな
ところがあるとわかるよ。
マギボンは英語板で質問に答えてくれていたから、そこで知った。
842:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 00:58:43 0
How do you advance Japanese study such as grammar and vocabulary?
What kind of certificate do you need to become a Japanese teacher in US?
843:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 01:01:35 0
かなり前に誰か英語板のこと教えていたけど
マギボンは英語板にも降臨していたのか。
844:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 01:08:55 0
実は芸スポ板とかにも幅広く降臨してる。
しかもそういうトコでは日本語オンリーで。
ほとんどスルーされてるのが何とも不憫でならない。
でもマギボンってすごいよね。尊敬する。
845:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/23 04:34:22 0
>>841
How you describe a rumour making celebrities widely known is how most
celebrities here go about keeping themselves famous. We think
that most of our stars are stupid or immoral. It is not important for
a celebrity to be respectable or seem pure anymore. I think it is a
sad state of affairs, but I also think that Japan goes a little overboard
on the other end of the spectrum. I feel that dishonorable behavior
should neither be glorified nor too harshly condemned. Because, not one
of us is perfect, and throwing stones at someone whose mistake was found
out is hypocritical and weak-minded.
For us, being on TV and in movies is the stars' work. It does help to
show how famous they are, because it means that the companies trust them
to bring in lots of money. But, it is the news stories and gossip that
keep them fresh in our minds, and keep people interested.
I think American guys are different from Japanese guys when they see
that a famous girl is dating. I don't know how a guys mind works (Do I
want to know??), but it seems like they think "Oh, then maybe I have a
chance, too!"
I have heard that there are some celebrities in Japan who are famous
only for being in TV ads. Would you say that's true?
>>842
I learn from music and dramas, and I learn a lot here. Also, I have
some books that teach Japanese.
I don't know what kind of certification is required to teach Japanese.
I think it depends on the school.
~Magi~
846:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 10:26:57 0
Quiz to Magibon
Today is a national holiday in Japan.
What holiday is it?
Hint
1. Somebody's birthday
2. Not Jesus as you know
3. No person in America equivalent to him
4. There exists a person in England equivalent to him.
847:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 10:29:19 0
Scene from the world tour of YMO in 1979 at Greek Theater(LA).
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
848:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/23 11:46:39 0
>>846
Ah, it's the Emperor's birthday? Happy birthday! ^_^
It's not yet Dec. 23 here, though. If he comes here quickly, he'll be
a year younger. ^_^
>>847
Cool! I especially liked the first one, "Rydeen."
~Magi~
849:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 12:04:46 0
>>848
Good!
You're absolutely right.
I'll give you my kiss.♥
850:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 12:12:41 0
I wish next prince's birthday be other day.
becouse 23 dic is included in the winter break.
851:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 12:18:10 0
>>850 is 冬厨
852:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/23 12:54:15 0
>>850
Aah... what a waste...
853:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 12:55:01 0
i luv ya
854:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 13:05:22 0
懐かしーなおい、YMO?
今でも名曲だと思うのは、Absolute ego danceかな。
アルバムだとBGM。
855:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 13:23:38 0
Magibonは、椎名林檎は知ってるんだよね?
一応貼っとくけど。
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
856:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 13:29:40 0
Can you see a heart mark at the end of the last sentence in >>849, Magibon?
857:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/23 13:46:22 0
>>855
Cool! The music is great, and the video for the first one was awesome.
>>856
Yes.
~Magi~
858:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 16:30:11 0
>>845
>I have heard that there are some celebrities in Japan who are famous
>only for being in TV ads. Would you say that's true?
I don't know. In general, if a girl gets famous and popular by being
on TV ad, then she moves on to another phase where she starts to be
on a drama or something. But I am not so sure.
I was surprised by American guys positive reaction you mentioned.
Japanese guys imagine going out with a cute idol but that's just
imagination and never think, like, "Oh, then maybe I have a
chance, too!" Of course some Japanese guys might think the same
way as American guys but they are exceptions in my opinion.
Have a nice weekend!! ^^
859:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/23 16:56:36 0
>>858
Well, look at our most famous female celebrities: Britney, Paris,
Lindsay, Jessica, etc.
Maybe Japan is moving in the same direction? I noticed that Morning
Musume's costumes are sexier than they were years ago, and they make
very sexy photobooks. Not even ten years ago, they were embarassed
to appear in bikinis.
A very popular phrase is, "Sex sells."
Do you think it is like that?
~Magi~
860:Magibon ◆U2eH9naDD6
06/12/23 17:12:42 0
lol
861:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 17:57:09 0
>860
i luv ya!
862:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 18:05:19 0
>>860
Are you genuine Magibon?
Do you like 69?
863:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 19:04:48 0
ねえMagibon、Hou○etekとはまだ付き合ってるの？彼のMySpaceを見ると
他の女といちゃいちゃしてるよ？いいの？
864:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 19:55:36 0
>863
kgkgkg good job
865:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 20:03:54 0
マギボンは俺の女だが どうした
866:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 20:54:27 0
>>859
"Sex sells." Yeah. I think the situation here in Japan is the same but
as a man in my thirties, I don't think Japan used to accept the idea
with open arms. Everybody understand the idea of "sex sells" deep down but
I think we used to be less unconcealed about expressing sexual things.
Not only at media level but even at personal level, too, people are becoming
less shy about talking about sexual things. As a conservative man, I don't
like the tendency even if I sound hypocrytical.
I guess you know of 倖田來未 (hakamada Mirai)
URLﾘﾝｸ(youtube.com)
She's been described as "エロカッコイイ”This expression is combination
of two words. "エロイ" and "カッコイイ”カッコイイ can be translated "cool."
It is difficult to translate エロイ's nuances for me. You might translate it
"sexy" but in my opinion エロイ is more than that and has nuances the word
"naughty" has.
She sings in lingerie-like fashion and SM-like fashion. Maybe you
know more about her than me, Magibon. I am not young enough to know
much about young pop culture. ^^
In Japan, "popular word, buzzword of the year" is announced at the end
of a year. The annual contest awards buzzwords that have had the strongest
impact on society or that have reflected the social situations in a
year. This year, the word "エロカッコイイ" won the title. To think that
she is the singer who sells the most CD in 2006 here and has much
influence to girls, that's understandable.
When I first hear the song by 倖田來未, I thought I'd heard a similar
song! It's "Lady marmalade" by Cristina Aguilera, Pink and other...)
URLﾘﾝｸ(youtube.com)
I suspect 倖田's side stole the part of "Lady marmalade" melody...
867:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 21:02:13 0
>I guess you know of 倖田來未 (hakamada Mirai) ??
こうだくみ（kohda kumi）だと思う
868:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 21:24:33 0
>>866
in Korea , called hakamada???
869:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 21:26:39 0
>>867
ありえない間違いだな。www 最初に漢字を見た時に、はかまだみらい って
読み間違えて以来、よく間違ってしまう。オッサン丸出しだ。
>>867 is right, Magibon. I made a big mistake. That proves how old I am! hehe
kohda kumi is the right way to read her name, 倖田來未.
870:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 21:27:46 0
>>868
haha. I'm Japanese. オッサンだから許してくれ。
871:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 21:45:03 0
天才バカボンをカキコしたおっさんだね 可愛いね
872:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/23 23:28:24 0
バカボンいいね
873:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 00:30:51 0
>>839
I don't know the similar version that Magibon watched. The video
I watched is only the one that I mentioned before. I found it
in someone's favorites accidentally.
"No wonder our perception of beauty is distorted." by Dove AD.
This commercial showed us that AD pictures are easily photoshoped.
The same applies to words. But how about video? In a video, it is
difficult to deceive someone. lonleygirl15 was soon exposed. I think
people can't tell a lie in actual video. I'll trust videos rather
than words or still pictures.
私は、Magibonが見たバージョンのことは知りません。私が見たビデオは以前
挙げたあの一本だけで、誰かのお気に入りの中にたまたま見つけたものです。
「我々の美しさの感覚がゆがめられていたとしても不思議ではない。」
by Dove AD
このコマーシャルは広告写真が簡単にphotoshopedされることを我々に明らか
にしました。同じことは言葉にも当てはまります。しかし、ビデオはどうでし
ょう？ ビデオの中で誰かをだますことは難しいでしょう。lonleygirl15はす
ぐばれました。人はビデオの中で嘘をつくことはできないと思います。
私は言葉や静止画よりビデオの方を信じるでしょう。
874:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 01:36:23 0
Magibon do you know
Heidi, Girl of the Alps?
875:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 02:00:57 0
ハイジとクララとペーター好き
876:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/24 04:01:12 0
>>866
I have heard of Koda Kumi, but I haven't listened to her music or anything.
I don't get into western stars who have that same image, either. It seems
even more phony to me than the people who try to be perfect. Besides,
I think it probably appeals to men more than women.
Actually, didn't she fail an audition for Morning Musume?
I think Britney Spears sued a Chinese singer for stealing her song.
Koda Kumi is lucky that she got away with claiming that song as totally
hers.
>>873
Dove not only has commercials, but magazine ads and such also. They
are a company that makes shampoo and lotion, and soap. In their ads
they use women who are a little overweight, or flat-chested, etc.,
usually just in their underwear. I think it is just an attempt to
sell their products to these types of women, but I can't deny that they
have a respectable message when they say that beauty can come in many
forms, and that we have been narrow-minded about it lately. I just
don't think it is right to encourage women to remain at an unhealthy
weight.
These days, videos can definitely be photoshopped. I don't know how
exactly they do it, but I have seen it. For example, in the early
episodes of Kurosagi, the opening shows Yamapi laying in the grass
and rolling over. In one of these episodes, that same clip was very
noticeably photoshopped compared to the episodes that came before it.
Also, videos can definitely be edited in ways that conceal the truth.
When you consider that, and visual illusions and CGI, it almost seems
like people are likely to be fooled by video, because they assume that
video doesn't lie.
>>874
I have seen a few different versions of the movie. You?
~Magi~
877:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 04:06:21 0
.
878:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 04:06:53 0
うた
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.nicovideo.jp)
879:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 11:51:33 0
>878
全米が泣いた
880:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 15:04:24 0
Ringo
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
881:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 15:50:58 0
Heidi
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
882:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 16:20:50 0
I respct to Haidi
HAPPY CHRISTMAS!!
883:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/24 16:42:12 0
Why is everyone talking about Heidi? Is it well-known in Japan?
Good night. ^_^
~Magi~
884:Magibon ◆U2eH9naDD6
06/12/24 16:55:43 0
Merry Christmas.
885:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 17:41:11 0
Heidi, Girl of the Alps is a very popular anime in Japan.
886: ◆KGKGKG0uOg
06/12/24 17:50:40 0
Heidi, Girl of the Alps
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
URLﾘﾝｸ(en.wikipedia.org)
^_^
887:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 18:01:54 0
o 。 ______o O 。 。 °
。 ○ o ○ ／ ｨ ○ o ○
o /ニニﾆ)⌒ヽ o
o (･ω・ 从__ ） Ho! Ho! Ho!
○ 。 ○ ／ ○⌒○） ／|,. o O o
。 o o ∠ (／)-( /)_／ ／ ○
o .|／￣￣ /＿|／ ○ 。 o O 。
o O ／∩￣￣/∩ o 。
。 ノ / o O
o o ψ ψ _ ﾉ)ψ ψ___ﾉ) 。 o ○
o （・(▼)・ ） （・(▼)・ ） つ o ° o 。
。 o ∪-∪'"~ ∪-∪'"~ 。 。 o °o 。
＿_ ＿ 。 ＿_ ＿ o o＿_ ＿ °
＿_ .|ﾛﾛ|／ ＼ ____..|ﾛﾛ|／ ＼ ＿_ |ﾛﾛ| ＿_. ／ ＼
＿|田|_|ﾛﾛ|_| ﾛﾛ|＿|田|.|ﾛﾛ|_| ﾛﾛ|＿|田|.|ﾛﾛ|_|田|._| ﾛﾛ|＿
888:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 18:09:22 0
>>883
Much Japanese love Heidi, as Doraemon, Sazaesan, Chibi Marukochan
889:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 18:17:27 0
クリスマスイブに一人で寂しいからマギぼんのビデオ見返してたら
こんなの見つけた。
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
普通にしゃべってるじゃん。
You seem to have no problem talking in the video.
890:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 18:20:54 0
これが彼氏?
コーラにメントス入れてすぐフタするとどうなるんだろ。
891:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 18:26:34 0
>>876
Probably people who know a lot about morning musume and Kohda kumi
know the fact but since I didn't know that, I searched for some info and
found this video clip.
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
Maybe you've watched this audition video but I hope you'll enjoy it.
Kohda was 16 years old at the time (Goto Maki was 13.) and she looked
different and showed no signs of エロカッコイイ.
Kohda Kumi, whose real name is 神田来未子(Kohda kumiko) passed through
the scond round, where 21 participants survived. As you may know,
Goto Maki was the winner.
You said you are into neither Kohda Kumi nor western equivalant.
You like morning musume, right? Maybe the reason you are into the
"Japanese" girls group is that there's no singers that matche your
tastes in music in US music scene. Don't you listen to hip hop?
892:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 19:42:34 0
>>890 No
893:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 19:51:09 0
Merry clitoris
Will you merry me?
894:Magibon ◇U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/24 20:08:11 0
Yeah!
Merry clitoris!
~Magi~
895:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 20:15:29 0
>>893-894
お前ら最低だな。人として
896:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 20:17:33 0
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
897:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 20:22:52 0
I love The Dog of Flanders
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
Patrush is the best dog!
898:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 20:30:55 0
I have lonely christmas and new year.
Let's suicide
899:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 20:50:27 0
895 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：2006/12/24(日) 20:15:29 ID:???0
>>893-894
お前ら最低だな。人として
おかまか
900:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 21:27:40 0
I can be patient of my lonely Christmas.
Because Magibon is always with me in this thread.
901:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 22:44:36 0
停止 真・スレッドストッパー。。。(｀・ω・´) ｼｬｷｰﾝ
902:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/24 22:46:12 0
こっちもかYO！
903:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/25 00:03:00 0
Merry seXmas!!!
904:873
06/12/25 08:42:25 O
>>876
Merry X'mas Magibon.
Thank you for telling me the background of ads. As the beauty and make-up
did not have interest, I thought DOVE has simply explained a brainwashing
method by the media to us. And I assumed that brainwashing was related
with fake self-esteem. Because even if someone imitate celebritie's make-up,
one can't get true self-esteem. I thought fake self-esteem is a theme
of this commercial.
I said, I trust video. It means communication. Facial expression talks
more than words. Your impression may overwhelm your words, when someone
looking in your eyes. As Internet become more like real world, we got
possible to make use of natural primitive ability.
広告の背景について教えてくれてありがとう。私は美や化粧に関心がなかった
ので、DOVEが単に私たちにメディアによる洗脳方法を明らかにしてくれたのか
と思いました。また、私は洗脳と見せかけの自尊心が関係していると考えました。
なぜなら、セレブのメークアップを真似しても本当の自尊心は得られないからです。
私はこのCMのテーマは見せかけの自尊心だと思いました。
私がビデオを信じられると言ったのは、コミュニケーションに関してです。
顔の表情は言葉よりも豊かに話します。誰かがあなたの目を見れば、その印象
はあなたの話す言葉を圧倒してしまうかもしれません。インターネットが現実
の世界に近づくにつれて、私たちは持って生まれた能力を生かせるようになり
ました。
905:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/25 13:37:05 0
>>904
You got it right. False self-esteem is a theme of that commercial.
Also, selling more products is a motive. This company that makes
lotions and soaps is running a campaign to reinvent people's perception
of beauty. They are saying that real beauty is in real people, as
opposed to the people we see in ads and in the media. Though they don't
come out and say so, they are really trying to sway female cosumers
from buying flashier, trendy products, towards instead buying Dove
products, which have simple packaging.
It's an interesting marketing plan. Even if profits are the only
motiviation (I think they really care too, though) the campaign will
probably do good for some people. It is controversial though, and
different people will have different views on the matter.
As for me, I think everyone can be beautiful, and deserves to feel
beautiful. But, sometimes these arguments go too far. As you may
know, the majority of Americans are now overweight. Thin people,
who are the minority today, are being hurt by some of this hype.
Many people are equating being overweight with being "real." Because,
even though the Dove campaign isn't just about weight, that is what
most Americans are most self-concious about. As you can probably tell
from my videos, I am not overweight, and it hurts my feelings when so
many people on TV are saying that I'm not a real person. Some
overweight people are taking it so far as to accuse thin people
they don't even know of having eating disorders.
This new way of thinking is making it easier for people with too much
weight to feel good about themselves. You can say that is a good thing,
or you can say it is a bad thing because they would be better off
exercising and eating healthier if they want to feel attractive.
In other words, the campaign is fighting to empower a group of people,
which is admirable. But, aren't they making things harder for a
different group of people? Is it purely coincidence that the company
is appealing to the majority of potential customers?
~Magi~
906:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/25 14:48:39 O
日本語で書け。
907:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/25 14:51:44 0
Oh, I missed a whole bunch of replies.
>>885 >>886
Oh, I see. The story is based on a novel. Here, many movie adaptations
have been made. One of the most well-known is a Shirley Temple movie.
Do you know Shirley Temple in Japan?
I had no idea there was an anime... I'm kind of shocked.
>>887
Hahaha, I love that! ^_^
>>891
Some hip hop is OK. But, it seems to me that most popular music today
is more about the singer's image than the actual song. I don't like
a harsh image. I want to tell those people... "You're just a normal
person, so don't be so full of it." Ah, well...
I don't really know much about Koda Kumi. I am not into her image.
But, I saw her on a variety show and she seemed very nice. At least
she wears the clothes (or lingerie, hah) rather than letting them
wear her (she doesn't seem to let her clothes affect her attitude).
Speaking of that, I have heard that Avril Lavigne is popular in Japan.
Did you know that most audiences here rejected her because they decided
she was a "poser?" In other words, they thought she should act a
certain way if she was going to wear a clothing style. Why did they
get so upset?
~Magi~
908:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/25 17:56:02 0
>>907
Yeah. Avril is popular and her CDs sell here.
She did a Japan tour for concerts, too.
>Did you know that most audiences here rejected her because they decided
she was a "poser?"
What do you mean? Do American young people think that she is just
pretending to be bad? When I first saw her on TV or CD Jacket, she
was a slim cute girl, a type that everybody tends to love.
But, her make-up changed my impressoin on her. I don't like the
way she darken the parts around her eyes. She looks unhealty and
the make-up reminds me of a person who is sick in bed and worn out.
>In other words, they thought she should act a certain way if she
>was going to wear a clothing style.
I don't understand what you mean due to my lack of English proficiency.
Would you explain that?
909:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/25 22:11:34 0
chba.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp
Mozilla/5.0 Macintosh Firefox/1.5.0.9
910:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/25 22:35:28 0
おすすめ英会話ポッドキャスト(Podcast of English conversation course)
eChat Vancouver
URLﾘﾝｸ(syndy.jp)
911:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 00:05:43 0
Be careful Avril Lavigne has a lot of fans in Japan.
I think the melody of her songs are much closer to that of J-Pop compared to
most other songs from the West. And she isn't well stacked. So it is much easier
for Japanese to find her cute.
912:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 01:27:39 0
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
king of jpop
913:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 09:23:45 SG7uP1Sk0
Hi Magibon! Merry X'mas. You so Cute by WarHappy
914:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 09:52:41 0
_
. (⌒⌒⌒).) ／⌒ヽ
| |:|. （＾ω＾ ）おっ？
─| |:|‐─○─○─
￣￣￣~
_
(⌒⌒⌒).)
| (;;;;,,,.. |:| ﾑｷﾞｭ
(つ＿__と)
￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣
_
(⌒⌒⌒).) ／⌒ヽ
|＾ω＾ |:| （＾ω＾ ）＜おっおっおっ？
─| :::|:|‐─○─○─
￣￣￣~
URLﾘﾝｸ(video.google.com)
915:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/26 11:19:40 0
>>908
Yes, they thought she was an unconvincing "bad girl." Although, many
younger kids liked her. One of my little sisters was a big fan. I
don't have a strong opinion, because I was always listening to Japanese
music at that time. ^_^'
~Magi~
916:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 14:19:38 0
Magibonは、南京大虐殺についてどう考えられますか？
917:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 14:26:38 0
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(newsplus板)l50
918:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 18:07:21 O
中国がアメリカで洗脳活動か｡
919:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 20:26:29 0
妹が二人以上いることが判明。
920:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 20:47:35 SG7uP1Sk0
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.nicovideo.jp)
Good Morning Magibon ↑ You Looking. By・WarHappy
921:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 20:52:55 0
／⌒ヽ
(＾ω＾ ）おっ？
URLﾘﾝｸ(gameboyz.ddo.jp)
922:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 20:59:53 0
Santa Claus did not come. （＞＜）
923:Magibon ◆U2eH9naDD6
06/12/26 21:29:11 0
Because he is too old.
924:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 21:49:28 0
★
／｜
∴∴∴ I came now.
. （｡・-・｡） Is it too late?
ﾟし-Jﾟ
925:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 23:25:43 0
go home
926:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 23:34:40 0
女が降臨するスレは童貞が荒す。
これ２ｃｈの常識。
927:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/26 23:47:45 0
no no
zenin ga doutei, you know?
928:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 00:44:31 0
>>916
実際、20万人虐殺したなんて言われてるが実際は嘘なんだろ？
とんでもねー国だよな。世界に訴えるんだとさ。
Magibonは騙されない様にね。
929:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 01:48:51 0
>>928
日本人は米軍に二百万人殺されたけど、それが理由で嫌米の奴なんていないだろ。
数なんてどうでもいいんだよ。仲良くする気があるかどうかが問題。
The US army killed more than two million Japanese citizens during the World War II
and we have no grudge. It doesn't matter how many people were killed.
What it really matters is if people from the two nations have will to be friends.
930:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 02:20:55 0
アメリカ迎合の人間性を忘れた痛いカキコ
書き込む前に深く考えろ
殺された人間の数がどうでもいいはずないだろ
Ｍａｇｉにもバカだと思われるぞ
I don't accept that opinon. It's very important how many people killed in the war.
He is currying favor with American. His opinion is too partial.
931:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 02:43:04 0
原爆投下、東京大空襲は人類史上まれに見る無差別攻撃だ。
軍事施設を狙った攻撃ではなく、一般市民を標的にした無差別攻撃は許せない行為だけどな。
932:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 04:30:29 0
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
933:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 04:48:01 0
そろそろ自重しようぜ
934:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/27 07:32:06 0
Hey guys. I got Pocky in my stocking. ^_^b
~Magi~
935:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 07:47:01 95OPLJw70
Good Moning Mabibon.
Video next updeto?
936:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 08:42:22 0
Do you mean you got it as a Christmas present, or just your stockage?
I heard Pocky is recognized as a Japanese food over there.
937:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 08:52:13 0
Hi Magibon!
Why did James Brown die?
drug?
938:904
06/12/27 09:26:56 0
>>905
Thank you for very detailed explanation.
Because there's no such campaign in Japan and I'm not overweight,
I couldn't exactly imagine such situation. But I can say that creator
of the commercial and sponsor of the commercial are not the same.
Both motive are different. When somebody posted the DOVE video to YouTube,
distribution of the video switched over from nationwide to worldwide.
But DOVE is not running a global campaign. Sponser's influence has
comparatively weakened.
I don't understand a meaning of the "real people" what DOVE thinks about...
But I understood that American was fool for the word "real people."
I think that "real people" is a person who has true self-esteem.
Probably overweight person watches you as a Barbie Doll. It's understandable.
They judge you only by appearances. Because you have been posted many
video on YouTube and sent message to 2ch, we all know you are smart and
have a guts. I think, you have found a way to grow with true self-esteem.
(Sorry, I am a bit obsessed by self-esteem theme.)
I kind of dislike overweight person. Perhaps some of them can't control
oneself. They may have under the influenced of some gourmet programs
on TV. Whoever "equating being overweight with being real" are already
brainwashed. I just remember a sentence from some book.
"If one becomes totally immersed in any particular facet of life,
one cannot help but absorb that facet."
とても詳しい説明をありがとう。
日本にはそんなキャンペーンがないし、自分は太ってもいないので、そのような
状況をはっきり想像することができませんでした。しかし、私はコマーシャルの
製作者とコマーシャルのスポンサーは同じでないと言うことができます。両者の
動機は異なります。誰かがYouTubeにDOVEビデオを貼ったとき、ビデオの配布は
全国的なものから世界的なものに転じました。しかしDOVEは世界的なキャンペー
ンを行っていません。スポンサーの影響力は比較的に弱まりました。
私は、ダブの考える"real people"の意味がわからないのですが…。でもアメリ
カ人がその言葉に弱いことはわかりました。私は"real people"とは、本当の自
尊心を持っている人だと思います。
太った人はあなたを見ると、バービー人形と感じるのかもしれません。それは理
解できます。彼らはただ外見で判断しているのです。あなたはTouTubeにたくさ
んのビデオを投稿し、２ちゃんねるにメッセージを送ったので、誰でもあなたが
頭が良くて度胸があることがわかります。あなたは本当の自尊心と共に成長する
方法を見つけたのだと思います。(自尊心の問題に執着してすみません)
私は太りすぎの人を少し嫌います。たぶん、一部の太りすぎの人は自分をおさえ
ることができないのかもしれません。彼らは、テレビのグルメ番組から影響を受
けているのかもしれません。誰であれ、太りすぎと"本物"を同等に考える人は洗
脳されています。私は、ある本の文章を思い出しました。
「何であれ、ある面の生活に完全に浸っていると、その面を吸収しないではいられない｣
939:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 12:06:04 0
We have a warm winter now.
It's reported that it's warm in New York.
940:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 12:47:30 O
>>934 難しい話は無視ですか? つまらない女だな｡
941:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 13:17:42 0
まあ、ソマリアの内紛どう思う？
みたいなマイナーな話しだから。
イラク政策あたりなら反応があるかも。
942:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 13:46:54 0
なんでそんな話に持っていきたがるんだろう
キモｽ
943:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 14:00:09 0
ロム専だけど、、ＴＰＯの無い政治オタクはただの馬鹿にしか見えない。
944:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 14:25:04 O
いいからすっこんでろﾊﾞｶ｡
945:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 15:14:52 95OPLJw70
You Crazy. 無駄レスしないで１０００になるだろ。政治のことは、違う板へ！
ここは、Magibon Exclusive!!
946:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 15:28:26 0
>>943
I like TSPO!!
947:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 15:36:47 0
マギボンは忙しいの
お前らの相手なんか出来ないって
948:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/27 15:41:58 0
>>935
I don't know...
>>936
It was a stocking stuffer. In the US, It can only be found in Asian
specialty stores and on the internet.
>>937
Heart failure. He was getting old and had health problems.
>>939
Yes. It still hasn't snowed! I think it's supposed to become cold
starting tomorrow.
~Magi~
949:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/27 15:42:33 0
>>938
I was watching the movie "What's Eating Gilbert Grape." There is a
woman in the movie who is supposed to me grotesquely overweight. The
movie was made in the 1990's, and I remember watching it back then and
thinking, "Wow, can a person really be that big?" But, today, I was
thinking "Why is everyone in her town staring? It's normal to see that
every day." Then I realized that things really changed very drastically
and suddenly. I'm a little bit scared and sad. It is said that the new
generation of kids will be the first that will have a shorter life
expectancy than their parents.
Yes, people are saying that traditionally attractive people are like
Barbies, and saying those things hurts people's feelings who
do happen to be skinny or have a nice face. What is strange to me, is
I never considered myself attractive while I was growing up. But, I
started exercising just a little bit and not overeating, and most other
Americans did the opposite. Now, people give me dirty looks and say I
must be stupid or unfriendly.
What bothers me the most, is when large people refer to themselves as
"healthy." Yes, many people are actually making themselves believe
that diet and exercise are unhealthy. I think that the reason this is
spinning out of control is that as soon as the majority shifted to the
overweight side, all of those people could suddenly support themselves
and each other, because "majority rules." Now, I am only trying to
keep my body somewhat healthy and how I personally like it to look, and
people tell me that I am unhealthy and don't have the body of a "real
woman." But, if I were to fit in, I would have to overeat and stop
exercising. I want to have a longer life expectancy, so I put up with
people's deciding I am their "enemy," even though it isn't fair.
The topic of self-esteem is interesting and important, I think. I feel
that people who try to get their self-esteem by being in denial of other
people's good qualities are going about it the wrong way. Before, those
people would just live a life of hating the people around them, or they
would be forced to accept the truth and make a change for the better.
But, what happens when those people are the majority? They'll never
have to accept the truth?? Then, what happens to all the other people?
I also have a quote that I like, and I think it fits well with this
topic. It is from the book Farenheit 451. In the book, society became
too lazy. This is what one character who is still smart but likes the
hellish world said:
" We must all be alike... Each man the image of
every other; then all are happy, for there are no mountains to make
them cower, to judge themselves against."
Americans are letting that happen right now, and I think it's scary.
I hope that I always have mountains against which to judge myself, so
that I can continue to grow. I think it is sad when people don't want
to become the mountains themselves.
I wrote way too much! I think it's a fascinating topic. Because
your English is great, I used advanced English. I hope you're not
too bored now! Hahaha. ^_^
~Magi~
950:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 16:04:01 0
I was まで読んだ
951:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 16:07:09 0
私、最近寂しいの まで読んだ。
952:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 17:52:39 0
Maginon kawaii!
Cute
953:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 18:15:00 O
なにこのﾊﾞｶｽﾚ｡
954:938
06/12/27 18:19:02 0
>>949
Magibon, you are overestimating my English ability.
I write it in Japanese first. then I use Yahoo translator. and I fix it a lot.
Would you please write it more shorter?
マギボン、あなたは私の英語能力を過大評価しています。
私は最初に日本語で書いて、それをヤフー翻訳して、たくさん直します。
どうかもっと短く書いてもらえませんか？
955:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 18:28:40 O
magiが忙しい分けねぇだろ｡ ニート
956:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 20:58:20 0
どっかに忙しいって書いてあるの？
957:Magibon ◆U2eH9naDD6
06/12/27 21:03:30 0
I'll give you a blowjob.
958:Magibon ◆U2eH9naDD6
06/12/27 21:04:04 0
I'm horny.
959:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 21:15:25 0
idiot..
960:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 21:47:17 0
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961:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/27 23:12:01 0
So what kind of workout do you do?
Pumping iron, using a balance ball, Yoga or walking on your hands
in your neigborhood? ^^
I used to do push-ups everyday and it ended up hurting my shoulder
joints. Now I just do exercise to keep my ab flat at home.
Things seem different from my recognition. I've read obese people
tend to be rejected in a job interview in US. But now that fat
people became the majority, they descriminate against slim people at
least around you?
I heard some fashion houses decided that they won't use too thin models
because those models are dying because of eating disorder and
using those models gives teenagers the wrong impression that you have to be
as thin as possible to be recognised as beautiful.
I think the move of the fashion houses is a step in the right derection
but judging form your posts, in US, at least among people around you,
pendulum has swang as far as to have a bias against slim people...
I suspect that maybe people who say you are too slim or unhealthy is
jealous of you deep down in thier hearts and think in their own box,
not having guts to dicipline and control themselves.
Aren't they all girls? Girls can be jealous.
962:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/28 19:05:46 0
Magibon, we need a new pic for the next thread.
Please!
963:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/28 23:50:16 0
過去スレ読んでるけどどうやって2chにたどりついたの？
なぞのまま？
964:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 00:40:17 0
無
965:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 00:49:21 0
>>963
>> YouTubeでメッセージにリンクでした
URLﾘﾝｸ(makimo.to)
157 名前： Magibon 2006/08/20(日) 13:10:02 ID:/pgZ8bpS0
Magibon です。私のビデオはここにいる (116, 120)。初めまして。^_^
この場所を見付けました, YouTubeでメッセージにリンクでした 。芳心をありがとうご座いました。^__^
近影 :
URLﾘﾝｸ(i15.photobucket.com)
URLﾘﾝｸ(i15.photobucket.com)
日本語で苦手である、御免なさい。
~ Magibonでした ~ *\ ^_^ /*
966:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 01:03:56 0
Oh she looks kind of grotesque...
967:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 08:15:10 0
URLﾘﾝｸ(blog2.fc2.com)
968:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 08:23:37 0
このスレを見ている人はこんなスレも見ています。(ver 0.20)
Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 74 [ENGLISH]
☆★☆日本語→英語スレ 英訳PART 273☆★☆ [ENGLISH]
Hey Native speakers! Come and help us! [ENGLISH]
通訳案内士試験合格を真面目に目指すTHREAD (Part7) [ENGLISH]
■ (vip931あらため) 「おすすめ２ちゃんねる」 その５ [2ch運用情報]
969:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 11:58:27 O
ウザイ
970:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 12:56:22 0
Magibon このスレ荒らせｗ
971:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/29 13:38:20 0
Hey. I probably won't be on as much this week. : (
>>954
Sorry!
I was just saying that even though it's good that some media are helping
large people to feel confident, it is worrying me that Americans are starting
to think that being overweight is "healthy." Because so many stars have
become anorexic lately, all the larger people are able to say that all skinny
people are unhealthy, which of course isn't true. Also, I asked it you think
that it's really OK for overweight people to get their confidence from the media
and each other? I wonder a little bit if it eliminates the need for them to
exercise and become healthier?
>>960
Thanks. ^_^
>>961
I do some sit-ups and push-ups (but not a lot) and I walk around my town
or on the treadmill.
I don't know if thin people are discriminated against at job interviews. I
think it is still harder for overweight people to get hired, because many
bosses are from the older generations, and becuase being overweight
is associated with laziness or slowness (though that isn't always the case).
Thin people are having it difficult in social situations, though. Many young
stars have admitted to having eating disorders, and now there is an
obsession with saying that every skinny girl is starving herself. Larger
women talk about their "curves" and say that skinny girls have the body
of a child. Now that overweight people are in the majority, it is becoming
somewhat hard for girls who aren't overweight. Everywhere in society
and on TV, people are talking about "real women." In order for people
who are naturally thin to put on weight, they would have to overat and
not exercise, you know?
Actually, thin men don't have it difficult. Everyone still prefers a lean
guy to a chubby one. Even overweight women who say that they
"have a body" and skinnier girls don't, want men who don't have excess
fat. Men are starting to say that they want a woman with some excess
fat.
The way I see it, everyone should just respect everyone else... Instead,
all the people around me are arguing about who has a better body, and
insulting people. : (
>>962
I'll try to find one we haven't already used. ^_~
~Magi~
972:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 15:14:34 0
>>949
I suppose you should do anything that make you feel better, rather than
for physical things. For example, putting on make-up is for making your
feeling better. There's some person who regards you as a plain-looking,
because each person has own preferences. But if you relax and feel good
about yourself, the energy reaches to the person around you, and it makes
them feel better.
I suppose you don't have to make up with your "enemy." You have nothing
to do with them. But please don't dislike them too much. Women around
you are watching your appearances severely. They may notice what you
feel. But don't worry too much.
Thank you for praising my English. (I was a bit upset.)
Recently I am reading only dictionaries.
I noticed that my writings are getting longer. Maybe I was annoying
someone else. Now I'm very sorry about it.
>>971
My brain is too slow to follow your writings.
973:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 15:16:16 0
>>971
> Now that overweight people are in the majority, it is becoming
> somewhat hard for girls who aren't overweight.
Okay, I am a big fan of you. I love your videos.
I think you are not only cute but also faithful.
But I have to say something.
Magibon, please don't try to play the tragic heroine.
I know it is a common desire to all the women from all over the
world, but please.
Maybe you are right, but it sounds sarcastic when it is said by a good
looking thin girl such as yourself. If you wrote this on YouTube,
people would immediately start bashing you.
And please keep in mind we also have fat people in Japan.
Probably there are some on this thread too.
私は違いますよ。でもちょっと言いたかっただけ。
まぎぼんのファンだから。
もう書きません。ごめんなさい。
974:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 16:33:13 0
Magibon gets on my nerves.
975:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 16:34:56 0
自画撮りでニヤニヤ笑って気色悪い。
自分が可愛いとでも思っているのか？
薄気味悪い。
976:Magibon ◆U2cdYrhXD6
06/12/29 17:10:09 0
>>973
Please don't tell me I'm playing anything. Have you been accused
of having a disease or psychological problem just because of how
you look? I feel very fortunate and thankful that I am *healthy*. There
are millioms of people on this planet who have a lot less than I do. But,
I am telling you that it is no more acceptable to disrespect a person for
being thin than it is to disrespect a person for being overweight. As I
said, I want everyone to not worry so much about each other's bodies.
And, I'm not claiming that anyone is my enemy, but rather deciding on their
own that I am theirs.
I'm not prejudiced against anyone. You, it seems, have a prejudice against women.
Or, is that not so?
I'd roll my eyes if a slim person asked for pity... I'm just asking for
equal respect. Get it?
Anyway, this topic is tired and no one else is interested.
~Magi~
977:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 17:20:43 0
Don't get carried away. Magibon bitch.
978:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 17:25:22 0
Koreans found here
979:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 17:37:23 0
Huh? I'm from the U.S.
980:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 18:37:23 0
こんなに暇人の相手をしてくれるなんて良いお嬢さんじゃないか。
ネットの面白くて良い部分に、悪い虫もいっぱい集まってきて面白いよ。
981:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 18:46:42 0
うんこには虫が集まるもんだ。
982:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 18:47:42 0
>>795
確かにNothingnessビデオは、調子に乗っちゃってる感じだな。
完全にアイドル気分なんだろう。
983:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 18:48:32 0
すまん>>975
984:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 18:50:59 qgpx/i390
I love Magibon
985:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 18:51:58 0
あのビデオは男が見ても不愉快だ。
同姓なら思い切り嫌われるだろうな。
986:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 18:54:17 0
なにがNothingnessなんだか。
ふざけるのもいい加減にしろ。
せいぜいネット上のオタクどもに可愛がってもらえ。
987:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 18:54:59 0
Magibonにスパムメールを送った。
988:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 18:57:51 0
>>976
I apologize. My previous post was a little too offensive.
This is your fan thread. I have no intention to argue with you.
989:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 18:59:35 0
糞女は追放しよう。
990:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 19:00:00 0
なんで>>916の質問は無視なんだ？
興味ないとかよく分からないなら一言、わからん。とでも答えれば良いのに・・
別に失礼な質問でもないし、露骨に無視するからアンチが増えるんだよ。たぶん。
991:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 19:02:03 0
批判的な書き込みは嫉妬だと勘違いしているんだろうな。
自分の問題に気付いていない。
992:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 19:02:11 0
And I am really sorry about the mood that I might have created.
I will continue to be your fan but I won't post here again.
彼女を叩くのは止めてください。
すみません。
993:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 19:05:58 0
うぬぼれた面構えに腹が立つ。
994:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 19:08:20 0
気に入らないなら見なきゃいいし、このスレに来なければいいんじゃね？
995:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 19:11:29 0
害毒を撒き散らすノータリンは駆逐する必要がある。
勧善懲悪。
996:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 19:13:05 0
批判をすることは大事な社会活動なんだよ。
ノンポリにはどうでもいいことなんだろうが。
997:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 19:13:49 0
冬厨増えてんな。２ちゃんの基本ルールくらい読んどけよ。
コテ叩きは最悪板以外では禁止なんだよ。
URLﾘﾝｸ(info.2ch.net)
「また、一般人の誹謗中傷・私生活情報暴露は禁止します。固定ハンドルさんを叩く行為も、最悪板以外の場所では禁止してます」
998:名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。
06/12/29 19:16:29 0
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