08/03/19 20:33:29 AOet0Mkg0
逆にMBAのACアダプタでMBPを充電しようとすると、
使いながらだとほとんど充電されないね。
使ってる分の電力の供給でいっぱいいっぱいで、
充電にまでまわせないのかな。
さすがにバッテリー残量が減る事はないが、増えもしない。
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08/03/19 21:51:42 bsAuF/HQ0
>>211
赤くならないよね
213:名称未設定
08/03/19 23:17:35 QAblPXFf0
>>72
今日ジーニアスバーに行ったときに聞いてみた。
真っ暗なところでバックライトキーボードが消えるのは仕様です、とのことでした。
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08/03/19 23:35:13 11SZW1eW0
>>213
>真っ暗なところでバックライトキーボードが消えるのは仕様です、とのことでした。
マジで！？w
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08/03/19 23:36:54 6UuxXfYh0
どんだけ真っ暗なんだよ。
216:名称未設定
08/03/19 23:47:51 ZR2Dfo9P0
>>74ってことか。
しかしすごい「仕様」だな。
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08/03/19 23:51:32 EDovoWGF0
これまでMBPとThinkPadを常に（休みの日さえ）持ち続けてきた。
Airを買って、ブーキャン入れて、大幅な軽量化ができた。
というわけで、使った後も書類やノートの間に、ストッと収まる
ようになった。この感触がうれしくて、インナーケースはやっぱり
いらないなと思うワンコであった。
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08/03/20 00:04:41 6UuxXfYh0
AirでWireless Dock使ってる人いる？
やっとAir+Time CapsuleでiTunesライブラリが充実してきたから
nanoと同期しようと思ってWireless Dock接続用ソフトをインストールしようとしたら出来ねえ！（レパードには対応している。）
最新版落としてきても同じくインストール失敗。もちろん繋がらず。
で、四苦八苦した挙げ句対処法が何とか判った。
当てずっぽうでごちゃごちゃやったから正確な順序は忘れたが、
インストーラーのパッケージを開いてcontained_packages内のモジュールを個別にインストール後、
Dock_Link_10_2.mpkgをインストールすると成功した。
Dock_Link_10_4.mpkgでは失敗した。
他に使ってる人いるか判らんけど参考まで。
ちなみにWireless Dock、発売当初は2万したが今はアマゾンで4500で買える。
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08/03/20 00:12:10 +TBH41YW0
真っ暗＝ディスプレイもついてない＝キーボード見える必要ない、
ってことかな。だとすれば妥当に思えるけど。
220:名称未設定
08/03/20 00:43:13 q128CNl40
月明かりもないほどのほんとの真っ暗なシチュエーションで
パソコン使う事ってなくね？
221:名称未設定
08/03/20 01:07:11 TNieKJ4g0
真っ暗でキーボードひかったらリッドクローズでこまるじゃん。
222:名称未設定
08/03/20 01:15:37 2UH7vKgB0
まあ、少なくとも真っ暗＝ディスプレイも見えない、
だから妥当な仕様かと思う。
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08/03/20 01:24:18 T0RQoalt0
>>221
蓋が閉まった事くらい明るさ以外で理解してほしいな。
常識。
224:名称未設定
08/03/20 01:53:51 2UH7vKgB0
>>223
何が常識？
明るさ以外で感知させるメリットは？
225:名称未設定
08/03/20 01:59:13 6/lCF/1t0
FONナイト行ってきた。Airなヤツがいるかと思ったら一人もいなかった。
俺も持って行こうかと思ってはいたんだが、雨なのでやめた。
会場で一番多かったのはiPod Touch（とiPhone）だったなあ。
ｽﾚﾁ&ﾁﾗ裏ｽﾏﾝ
226:名称未設定
08/03/20 02:23:59 q128CNl40
多分開閉の認識は磁石でやってると思うのだが。
なんかソフトウェア的なバグっぽい感じがするな。
１）手でセンサー部に直接光が当たらないよう影を作る。
２）その状態でKBライトの調節を行う→KBライトが点灯
３）一度手を離して影がない状態にする→KBライトが消灯
４）再度手で影を作る→KBライト点灯せず
（１と４のときの環境光の強さは同じくらいという事）
液晶バックライトは素直に明るさに連動してる。
そのうちアップデートで改善されるんじゃね？
227:名称未設定
08/03/20 02:25:00 q128CNl40
>>222
うちのは真っ暗な状態でもディスプレイは見えてるけど。。
真っ暗＝センサーを完全に指で隠す
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08/03/20 03:19:09 2UH7vKgB0
>>227
いや、だから普通に使っててディスプレイも見ない（光らせない）
ってことはないだろ？
真っ暗だとバックライトキーボードを消すのは妥当かと。
229:名称未設定
08/03/20 03:23:49 q128CNl40
え、え？？
言ってる事がよくわからん。
>>222の
＞真っ暗＝ディスプレイも見えない
真っ暗ってバックライトの事？
環境光じゃなくて。
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08/03/20 03:24:34 cijktPlO0
映画を観ていて暗いシーンになったときに明滅するとしたら興ざめだな。
気づいたということは、普通に使ってて再現する状況になったんだろう。
大して不便はないだろうが妥当とはいえないような。
231:名称未設定
08/03/20 03:28:19 2UH7vKgB0
>>229
いや、だから普通に使ってるときは少なくともディスプレイは
光っているのだから、環境光が真っ暗ということはないだろう。
つまり、環境光が真っ暗の場合＝使っていない＝バックライト
キーボード消灯でも妥当だろうということ。
>>230
なるほど、確かに興ざめかもしれない。
が、オレだったらバックライトキーボード消すな。
MBP だとどうなんだろう。
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08/03/20 03:32:01 q128CNl40
>>231
ああ、ディスプレイバックライト自体が環境光になるって事ね。
でもセンサーが液晶側だから、画面の明るさはセンサーに届きにくそう。
センサーが反応しない程度だと思うけど。。MBPだと違うけど。
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08/03/20 03:34:21 cijktPlO0
>>231
ターミナルの背景が黒という程度でも再現するというから
キーボードライトを消せというのは強引じゃないかな。
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08/03/20 05:41:59 HcgXKOMl0
また忘れてならないのが「MacBook Air」だ。1月中旬に発表されながら2月初旬まで
出荷されなかったこの超薄型ノートMacは、2月のApple製ノートPC販売の約20％を
占めている。しかも、Appleにとって好都合なことに、この新機種が既存の製品ラインの
セールスを浸食することはなかったようだ。「MacBook Airは、販売量を伸ばすチャンスを
Appleに与えた」とBaker氏は述べている。
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.computerworld.jp)
>2月のApple製ノートPC販売の約20％を占めている。
凄い数字じゃん。
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08/03/20 07:15:11 veaF7F6v0
>>234
アメリカのアポストアでは先週までろくに在庫が無かった事を考えたら
たいしたもんだよ。 在庫が十分にある３月の売り上げがどうなるか
興味あるね。
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08/03/20 09:04:58 rkhySDFt0
Air買ったけどたいしたことないな。なぜそう感じるかわからないけど。
とりあえず重い。そして大して薄くない。
箱とかも高級感を感じない。いかにも中国で作ったって感じ。
237:名称未設定
08/03/20 09:46:50 6/lCF/1t0
それは残念。
238:名称未設定
08/03/20 09:48:48 T+drnNOq0
毎日、Airを前にこのスレで出てた風呂敷で持ち運んでます。
軽くて便利だよう。
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08/03/20 10:21:46 XWKFtOKz0
>>187
2月1日にビックカメラで前金全額払ってまだ連絡無い俺は負け組？
Air1.8G + SSD ｄｅａｔｈ
240:名称未設定
08/03/20 10:29:14 q128CNl40
>>239
負け組としかいいようが・・・
可哀想すぎる
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08/03/20 10:39:39 T0RQoalt0
>>224
>明るさ以外で感知させるメリットは？
馬鹿にはわからないんだろうな。。
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08/03/20 11:11:27 TK3phioj0
本日Apple Store、New York 5th Ave店で購入。
州税含めて$1,949.67。$1.00=￥99で計算すると
￥193,000で、3万7千円ぐらい安い計算。
243:名称未設定
08/03/20 12:11:36 2UH7vKgB0
>>241
つまりお前には判らないけど騒いでたということか
244:名称未設定
08/03/20 12:35:11 mTBUol7K0
ふたの締まりは明るさで判断してるって本当か？
なぜ、そんな曖昧な判断ではなく、ふたの状態を内部で感知するようにしないのか。
245:名称未設定
08/03/20 12:36:34 q128CNl40
>>244
嘘だよ。そんなレトロな方式な訳がない。
246:名称未設定
08/03/20 12:45:51 8QSh247i0
しかし↓こういうの見てるとAirのバッテリーは素晴らしいね。
省電力設定でこれで、普通に使うと連中２時間半とかしか持たないくせに「公称１１時間駆動」って詐欺じゃね？
あきれたもね。
URLﾘﾝｸ(image.itmedia.co.jp)
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08/03/20 13:16:10 DIMoWhPf0
fILOFAXきた～
サイズ的には本当にピッタリだね。ACアダプターも入らないけど。
でも、さすがに上質。しばらくはこれでいってみよう。
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08/03/20 13:23:47 2UH7vKgB0
>>246
ITmediaをご愛読いただきありがとうございます。
弊社では、読者の皆さまにより快適で有用なサービス提供を目指して
おりますが、一部のサイトからの度重なる大量画像直接リンクにより、
表示が遅い、つながりにくいといった、通常サービスの著しい低下を
招くに至り、限られたリソース環境下での対策として、2004年2月24日
より、サイト外からの誘導による画像のダウンロードに制限を設け、
通常閲覧速度の回復を実施させていただいております。
249:名称未設定
08/03/20 13:40:11 A/VMweLz0
>>72
全画面表示の背景色黒の透明度0のターミナルで仕事をしていて、
集中していて夜になっても電気をつけなかったんだ。
そしたらキーボードバックライトが消えた。
で、ジーニアスバーに行ったときに聞いてみたら、ジーニアスの人も真っ暗な環境で再現実験をしてみてくれて、
おれのマシン以外でもジーニアスのマシンでも再現したと。
それで、仕様ですね・・・と。
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08/03/20 13:55:38 tqb37qEw0
>>248
ｺﾚﾃﾞﾄﾞｳﾀﾞ
URLﾘﾝｸ(plusd.itmedia.co.jp)
悪いとまではいわないけど、結局、日本のモバイルPCが魔法のように
良いってわけじゃなくて。CPU処理能力とかとのトレードオフなんだね。
251:名称未設定
08/03/20 13:56:17 q128CNl40
>>249
そこまで極端なケースってほぼゼロじゃねえか？
KBライトの挙動が変なのは間違いないが。。
252:名称未設定
08/03/20 14:05:41 6/lCF/1t0
>>250
日本のノートはバッテリ持ち時間の測定基準（JETAだっけ？）が非現実的だからね。
なんかあの基準ってメーカーのメーカーによるメーカーのための基準という感じ。
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08/03/20 14:07:03 Rp4TSuj/0
>>187です。
>>239
同じく自分も前金だったよ。
アップルのネットストアの方が早いです。
結局昨日ケーズに問い合わせしたら、
SuperDriveは現在入手困難で入荷未定とか言ってやがったよ。
カードで買ったけどキャンセルした。
で、昨日アップルのネットストアで注文したら
なんと今日届いた。
ケーズの店員に急いでるからネットで買うと言ったら
ネットと届く日数は変わらないと言ってた店員。
１週間もロスしたわ。
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08/03/20 14:26:00 8QSh247i0
>>252
だよなあ。
マカーは現実的な稼働可能時間を討議するのに対して、基地外はカタログスペックだけで暴れるからなあw
重い重いって軽いモデルと比較されるが、ウイン環境にだって重いのが大半じゃん、とか思いながら支離滅裂(笑)
んま基地外は相手にしないのがいちばんですね
255:名称未設定
08/03/20 14:40:05 Bfz48RJD0
実体はどこも七掛けなんだから公称値は多いにこしたことはない。
NECは割と控えめで実測値に近いらしいが
256:名称未設定
08/03/20 14:40:43 cijktPlO0
>>246
モバイルノートの用途から考えて
光学ドライブでDVDの連続再生テストは普通とは言えないだろ。
いくらなんでも酷だよ。
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08/03/20 14:46:12 XWC1s2DB0
>>254
intel化で比較しやすくなったおかげで、Macと同性能で同価格帯のWinマシン挙げてみろと言うと遁走するドザ多数w
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08/03/20 14:56:34 menu/YZQ0
>>253
まあ、普通の商品なら流通が少ないと店員の言う通りになる
ことが多いから、そう責めてやりなさんな。
ただ、Appleの商品は国内の流通とAppleStoreが全く別物
という特殊事情があって、これはApple製品と付き合う上で
常識と思っておいたほうがいい。
>>256
あのサイズで、DVD回しっぱなしで3時間以上動くのは
逆に大したもんだと思う。とはいえ、VAIOのTypeTを使っ
てると大したことしてなくても公称の半分強くらい。
259:189
08/03/20 16:10:09 6/lCF/1t0
>>253
ね、言ったとおりだったでしょ？
260:名称未設定
08/03/20 17:23:18 Rp4TSuj/0
>>258
そうだね・・・。
とりあえずすぐ商品が届いたので一安心です。
>>259
あい。勉強になりますた。ありがとう。
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08/03/20 23:00:52 2Be6wEH50
これだけ省電力化の進んだ昨今JEITA 1.0ってほとんど連続スリープ時間計測だよなぁ....
262:名称未設定
08/03/21 06:16:21 vw8eL6SH0
アメリカでの話だけど、アップルの修理早いね。
先週の木曜日に電話で俺のMBAが起動出来なくなったって
話したら金曜日にDHLの箱が届いて、そのままDHLにMBAもっていかせて、
今日（こっちの木曜日）に返ってきた。
修理内容はハードドライブ交換。
今またセットアップし直し中。
263:名称未設定
08/03/21 09:26:11 oNB8jYbG0
液晶にむらがあんだよなー
結構おおきめだし、真ん中までいかないけどよく使う付近にあるし、きになる
こーゆーのって修理してくれないかなぁ
264:名称未設定
08/03/21 10:08:54 ALCAJb6e0
むらってわけじゃないけど、真正面から見ないとSafariのRSSが未読かどうか区別できない orz
265:名称未設定
08/03/21 10:09:14 a7c1UkGD0
>>262
機種違ってあれだけど俺はiMac金曜の夜出して翌週の火曜に受け取った
修理内容は一緒でHDD交換
266:名称未設定
08/03/21 10:19:46 Rv9e9PTy0
結局、修理って部品在庫の状況が問題なことが
多いからね。
以上箇所を交換して、正常に戻ることが確かめられて
から対応となるのがほとんどなので。
HDDの場合は比較的速いです。
267:名称未設定
08/03/21 11:00:24 vw8eL6SH0
やっぱり日本はアメリカよりはやいんだね。
アメリカで発送期間いれて一週間で直ると思わなかったから。
VaioのときもXboxのときも一ヶ月ぐらいかかったからさ。
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08/03/21 12:45:29 dZmzetg70
>>255
>実体はどこも七掛けなんだから公称値は多いにこしたことはない。
>NECは割と控えめで実測値に近いらしいが
アポは公称値に割と近いかと
JEITA 1.0 は５～６掛け
269:名称未設定
08/03/21 17:26:12 MypwkYKY0
SSDの人、やっぱTCで運用してるの？それとも小型外付け？
270:名称未設定
08/03/21 19:52:22 BxD/ZPee0
>>269
んー、最近はユーロかな。
271:名称未設定
08/03/21 19:58:21 HGVRoMaV0
>>270
あなたと、合体したい
272:名称未設定
08/03/21 20:05:16 jovXY7h80
だれだよ↓こんなスレみてんのは
【♂増強】ペニス増大法を語ろう 31mm【チントレ】
273:名称未設定
08/03/21 20:32:31 gjo5PTxN0
IE使っているのはドザくらいだろ
274:名称未設定
08/03/21 20:35:05 V3MQG+muO
Safariも結構いるんじゃね
275:名称未設定
08/03/21 20:59:31 gjo5PTxN0
おすすめ２ちゃんねるは、Safariに対応したの？
276:名称未設定
08/03/21 21:50:35 cj6xDe/q0
もともと対応してるだろ。
277:名称未設定
08/03/21 21:59:44 yv3ZII4K0
そうなんだ？
IEだけかと思ってた。
278:名称未設定
08/03/21 22:11:30 cj6xDe/q0
逆になぜIEだけと思ったのか知りたいくらいだな。
279:名称未設定
08/03/21 22:15:33 D3cyt7K00
>>272からの現実逃避じゃん？
280:名称未設定
08/03/21 22:45:35 cj6xDe/q0
べつに前向きでいいことだと思うけれど。
281:名称未設定
08/03/21 23:09:44 vw8eL6SH0
今回ハードドライブ交換されてからハードドライブのクリック音が大きくなった。
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
ここでも出てるけど、このぐらいの音って普通なの？
ハードドライブ交換する前は明らかにもっと小さい音だったんだけど。
282:名称未設定
08/03/21 23:46:45 gQynjq/h0
ヒント：SSDは静か
283:名称未設定
08/03/21 23:56:47 vw8eL6SH0
>>282
全然ヒントになってないし・・・・
284:名称未設定
08/03/22 00:01:36 BpkATve00
>>281
これほどひどくはないが俺のは小さくて短い音は鳴る。
たまになるという感じ。
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08/03/22 00:28:11 A2/HpYRg0
>>284
やっぱり普通そうだよね・・・
交換してから本当音が大きくなったんだよね。
でもサポセン電話しても"仕様です”って言われるんだろうな。
かなりへこむよ・・・。
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08/03/22 00:39:51 lYhsPln20
>>285
そういうサポセン相手には履歴をつけられる前に電話切って何度もかけなおす。
こちらの情報教える前に、相手が石頭なヤツかどうかそれとなく確認してな。
うまくやれ。
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08/03/22 00:48:44 A2/HpYRg0
>>286
なるほどね。
よし、がんばって電話してみるよ。
ありがと。
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08/03/22 01:14:41 9RcAeHzP0
GeniusBarで修理に出した MacBook Air
（修理に出した理由は熱・ファンの回転・フリーズ）
が、結局何もされずに初期化だけされて帰ってきた。
（初期状態にしたら症状が消えたから）
とりあえず環境再構築して、TimeMachineでバックアップとってたら、
その途中でぶつんとシャットダウンorz。
ずいぶんファンが回るなあと気になってたんだが。
外付けHDD壊れてないか心配。
FirstAidかけたら赤字が出たので、修復かけた。
修復はできたけど、最悪の落ち方だよなぁ。。
289:名称未設定
08/03/22 01:20:17 PEDCCLNc0
Boot Camp + Vistaだと、何もしてなくてもファンが回りっぱなしだし触ると熱いし。
Mac OS Xだと、めったにファンは回らないのに。
そんなもんですか？
290:名称未設定
08/03/22 03:19:43 Q4JmkpVY0
URLﾘﾝｸ(japan.cnet.com)ノマディックなビジネススタイル、
価格差約16万円の価値--アップル「MacBook Air (SSDモデル）」
HDDがそうであったように、今後SSDがノートパソコンに普及すればするほど、
価格はどんどん下がり続けることは容易に予想できるし、1.8インチサイズで
128Gバイトを実現する製品のアナウンスも2007年中になされた。価格の下落や
容量の倍増がなされたとき、もっとも恩恵を受けるのはMacBook Airに他ならない。
より多くのユーザーが、SSDによるMacBook Air体験が可能になるのもそう遠くない
ミライの話だろう。ただ、そのミライを先取りすることが可能なことは、覚えておいて
損がないことである。
16万でミライを買った俺は後悔してないよ。
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08/03/22 05:12:25 0Qdzf5gD0
>>289
そんなもん、MBA以外でも同じ
292:名称未設定
08/03/22 09:21:34 WCeJCJ+o0
>>289
Windowsはかなり無駄にCPU空回りしてるからなぁ
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08/03/22 09:26:55 lYhsPln20
ミライのために今ミイラに……という俺様はミイラ取りがミイラ。
後悔してないよ……たぶん。
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08/03/22 09:32:52 mvxZV9Rm0
購入して１週間です。
なんだかAirの底の部分（左斜め上）あたりが熱くなるのは普通ですか？
何か対処法はあるんだろうか。
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08/03/22 10:11:48 PEDCCLNc0
>>291,292
thx.
Mac OS Xのほうが電源長持ちってことね。
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08/03/22 10:15:54 PEDCCLNc0
>>294
CPUを食う処理が動いていると熱くなるね。
tabキーやファンクションキーのあたりが。
297:名称未設定
08/03/22 11:59:55 w/w68J2K0
ＣＭみたいに、キーボード側押さえないで片手で開けるの？
298:名称未設定
08/03/22 12:10:06 3spY9SCY0
>>297
いま試してみたんだけど、だいたいなんであんな風に開けられるんだ？
角って上下がぴったりと合わさっているから、すきまに爪をつっこまないと
開き始められない。 あれは仕掛けがあると思う。
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08/03/22 12:19:36 w/w68J2K0
>>298
とん
いや、開け始めに両手が必要なのは構わないんだけど、開くときディスプレイ側を押すだけで開くのか気になって
俺の持ってるノートはディスプレイ側を押すと、キーボード側押さえてないと浮いちゃってそれが嫌なので
300:名称未設定
08/03/22 12:20:37 w/w68J2K0
あああ、すまん
301:名称未設定
08/03/22 12:21:00 pYL4B6o30
CMみたいには開かない。
半分ぐらいで重心が後ろに行って本体が浮く。
これ自体、おむつのCM見て「赤ちゃんは青い水出すんですか？」みたいな話。
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08/03/22 12:24:01 w/w68J2K0
>>301
そうか、ありがとう
片手で開けられるくらい本体側がもっと重いほうがいいな
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08/03/22 12:32:50 GX/bkMwY0
80度くらいまでは片手で開くよ。
うちのはそのあたりで本体が浮くので、片手で
開く→開いたところで本体に左手を添えつつ最後
まで開くような感じ。
304:名称未設定
08/03/22 12:40:29 ai3YH8Zw0
>303
俺のもそうだねぇ。
CMみたいになればいいのに。。
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08/03/22 12:48:47 8s8lECIP0
上に持ち上げるようにして開けると押さえずに95度くらいまで開けられるぜ
こんなん毎回やってられないがw
306:名称未設定
08/03/22 13:38:11 1jY4J3Yx0
それにしてもMBAのファンまわりすぎじゃね？
307:名称未設定
08/03/22 13:45:43 xZPDyDNC0
動画のエンコードとかやると壊れそうな勢いで回るな
tabのあたりもけっこう熱くなるし
まぁそんな負荷かけるなって話なんだろうけど
308:名称未設定
08/03/22 14:24:16 KoqCGM6G0
WindowsのPCからRemote Diskでソフトをインストールしようと思ったんですが、
Windows PC名→ディスク名の認識までは進むのに、ディスクの中身を開けません…
「"ディスク名"のオリジナルの項目が見つからないため、操作を完了できません。」という
メッセージが出て中身が空っぽの状態になってしまいました。
（ソフト自体はこれまでiBookで使っていたものです）
ソフトは著作権が絡むから駄目なのかとも思ったのですが、
自分で撮った写真のデータを移そうと思っても駄目でした。
こういうメッセージが出る方いらっしゃいますか？
検索しても同じ例が1件しか出てこないんです。
309:名称未設定
08/03/22 15:39:09 DtxCqDpE0
不具合スレの方は厨の隔離スレみたいだな。
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08/03/22 16:04:36 5fun66l/0
エスパーの修行もできるよｗ
311:名称未設定
08/03/22 16:05:46 Y8M0+q4P0
関わると病気になるぞありゃ。
312:名称未設定
08/03/22 18:45:10 YoYsFSL40
液晶の見やすさはどうなんでしょうね
かつてのシネマには及ばずとも今のシネマよりはマシなのかな
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08/03/22 18:52:24 0Qdzf5gD0
>>312
店頭で比較してくるといい、杞憂だということに気がつくはず
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08/03/22 18:57:56 5fun66l/0
先週ヨドバシで触ってきたよ。
下級信者？としてはデザインコンセプトだけで充分買いたい。
が、できれば初物にありがちな不良の対策が浸透するの待ちたくもあり。
315:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:07:45 FaKZwkTU0
既に初期不良で２回交換してもらった
316:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:12:43 1fdAfpJa0
>>314
素直に次ぎか次のモデルまで待つべし。
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08/03/22 19:17:45 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:45 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:45 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:45 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:46 CMKj0/Kh0
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328:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:47 CMKj0/Kh0
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329:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:47 CMKj0/Kh0
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330:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:47 CMKj0/Kh0
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331:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:48 CMKj0/Kh0
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332:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:48 CMKj0/Kh0
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333:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:48 CMKj0/Kh0
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334:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:47 CMKj0/Kh0
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335:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:48 CMKj0/Kh0
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336:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:48 CMKj0/Kh0
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337:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:50 CMKj0/Kh0
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338:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:50 CMKj0/Kh0
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339:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:50 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:49 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:50 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:50 CMKj0/Kh0
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343:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:50 CMKj0/Kh0
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344:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:51 CMKj0/Kh0
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345:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:51 CMKj0/Kh0
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346:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:25:58 FaKZwkTU0
すごい
347:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:45:33 tAVmyW070
既知外の成せる業だな
348:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:54:14 T0gYKNXy0
ちょっと質問なんだけど、
バッファローのLUA-U2-KTXってLANアダプタ
はOSXで使えるかな？
349:名称未設定
08/03/22 20:00:40 Vr2szNXu0
>>348
これでいけるかも
URLﾘﾝｸ(sustworks.com)
350:名称未設定
08/03/22 20:51:18 T0gYKNXy0
>>349
ありがとうございます。試してみます。
結果はまた報告します。
351:名称未設定
08/03/22 21:38:03 T0gYKNXy0
>>349
問題なく動いてそうです。
ありがとうございました。
352:名称未設定
08/03/22 21:54:18 KhZlRZqW0
1799ドルって今のレートだと179000円ちょっとだな。
さすがに23万も出せんわ。ばからしい。
アップルはいつまでぼったくるつもりなんだ？
353:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:01:39 Yhts2k9g0
1ドル150円になっても、絶対買わないくせにw
354:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:02:10 pYL4B6o30
円安になったからって値上げするブランドって結構あるけど、
（文房具とか。ファッションブランドとか、アルコールとか）
円高になって値下げしたってブランド聞かないのは俺だけ？
355:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:02:11 fNjYWLUO0
現実
URLﾘﾝｸ(pc.watch.impress.co.jp)
2007年国内PC市場出荷台数ベンダーシェア
NEC 20.3%
富士通 18.7%
DELL 14.0%
東芝 9.0%
日本HP 7.6%
ソニー 6.3%
レノボ･ジャパン 4.6%
日立製作所 2.8%
アップル 2.6% ←←←←（・∀・）ﾆﾔﾆﾔ
松下 2.1%
356:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:08:29 Yhts2k9g0
日本の夜明けは遠いな
357:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:08:36 f140NY0R0
円高以前に最初の価格設定が他のMacに比べて高すぎなんだよ
で俺は出張ついでになんとか現地で手に入れました
358:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:13:47 FTZm9Q+s0
>>355
これビジネスも込みでしょ。ｱﾎﾟｰ健闘してるんじゃないか?
11%も成長してるし。
URLﾘﾝｸ(pc.watch.impress.co.jp)
359:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:25:52 oHWHWSFb0
URLﾘﾝｸ(bcnranking.jp)
360:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:40:35 nWb3CPCG0
>355
だからそれが何？って感じ。
どこのメーカーのPCが売れているとかなんて全然関係無いものな。
Appleを使っている、Airが出た、気に入った、だから買った、それだけの事なんだからさ。
361:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:43:02 CSbzTrxGO
OSも(win使うとすれば)別売だし、シェアこんなもんでしょ。
アップルの割には健闘してるんでないかい。
362:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:43:35 75AJng3R0
VMWare Fusionを試してみましたが、Parallelsとのスピードの違いはさほど感じられません。
それとVistaの64ビット版をインストールしてみたのですが、最初のインストールの際に、なぜか画面が乱れます。
横線が入った感じになるんです。
64ビット版と32ビット版の違いってなんでしょうね？
363:名称未設定
08/03/22 23:30:23 97r5LcOy0
Macの販売が好調を持続、2月の市場シェアは14％に
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.computerworld.jp)
364:名称未設定
08/03/23 00:37:34 biAzOrg00
メインクーンって電波ヒゲがあるんだ・・・
365:名称未設定
08/03/23 02:56:41 g6Y1Vhgp0
ヨドバシで予約していたMacBook Airを本日受け取ってきたんだけど
意外とUSBポートのところ不便だな。
閉めたまま起動したりすると、少し本体を持ち上げないと開けることができない。
366:名称未設定
08/03/23 03:07:44 7Arr8qA/0
>>365
指が太いん… 普段は閉じて使ってくれってことじゃ？
ヘッドホンもワイヤレスにしたら、デジカメ接続するときくらいしか開かなくてすむようになった
367:名称未設定
08/03/23 03:17:53 Yp+Hnenm0
>>362
個人的には、VMWareのメリットって占有するメモリ量が
少なめってことかな。
2000だとファイルをd&dできないっぽいし、どうもまだ
未完成な印象が強い。
でもユニティよいなあ。
368:名称未設定
08/03/23 03:42:40 g6Y1Vhgp0
>>366
確かに指ちょっとふといのもあるかもな。
爪をいつも短く(深爪気味)きっておくので、
爪すらも引っかかってくれない感じなんです。
まぁ、別にそんなに気にならないんですけど
マルチタッチが面白すぎる
369:名称未設定
08/03/23 03:48:55 TclUG/XD0
つーかMBAのUSB、穴自体が小さくない？
ちょっと抜き差しが固い
370:名称未設定
08/03/23 04:53:10 O+5gaYKv0
ガバガバよりは、ちょっときつい方がいいよ。
371:名称未設定
08/03/23 05:20:43 O+5gaYKv0
MacBook Air、他にも3つのUSBポートの動作を確認
TUAWによると、読者のRowan Pope氏が、MacBook Airを分解しUSBポートを
調べたところ、MacBook Airにはスペック上USBポートは1つだけ搭載という
発表ですが、新たに3つのUSBポートが動作していることが分かったそうです。
その3つのUSBポートは全てUSB 1.0で、他にも1つの使用されていないSATA
ポートの存在も確認されたとのこと。
URLﾘﾝｸ(taisyo.seesaa.net)
能ある鷹はUSBを隠す
372:名称未設定
08/03/23 09:04:01 6KU5dmMu0
>>367
2000だとファイルをd&dできないっぽいし
できるよ。たまにできなくなったりするが。謎
373:名称未設定
08/03/23 09:26:00 5eaQD+UL0
>>366
Eye Fi にしたらそれも必要なし。
374:名称未設定
08/03/23 12:36:14 j3JZBVzC0
>>373
早く日本でも売らないかな？ 欲しいんだけど……。
375:名称未設定
08/03/23 13:59:23 tlnfyzjA0
>>367
そうですか、メモリ占有がVMが少なめですか。
どうしよう、どっちを使おうかな・・？
どちらも購入済みだけど。
376:308
08/03/23 14:02:46 5zppIJ1l0
すみません、Windowsに入れてる、セキュリティソフトの
ファイヤーウォールが原因でした…
一時的に切ってみたら、無事インストールできました。
初歩的なことでお騒がせしました。
でも、それに気づく直前に焦ってSuperDrive注文しちゃった…
あったらあったで使うかな…
377:名称未設定
08/03/23 14:31:01 TclUG/XD0
秋ヨド2Fの展示機は画面が結構傾いてるな。
あれだったら俺は新品交換してもらわないとちょっと・・
iPod nano並みに傾いてた。
378:名称未設定
08/03/23 14:48:51 cV/NNOsM0
>>377
俺も今画面傾きで交換機手配中
高いんだからビシッと取り付けてほしいもんだ
379:名称未設定
08/03/23 19:20:43 ge3P94NY0
DVDまたはCD共有ってAppleのページからダウンロードできないのかな。
いちいちCD（DVD？）を箱から出すのがめんどうだ。
出しておけばいいんだろうけど、そう頻繁に使うものでもないしなあ。
380:名称未設定
08/03/23 20:28:55 5uOYEtOy0
>>379
Windows Explorerでディスク右クリックして「開く」でSetup.exeとかが取り出せるんじゃない?
381:名称未設定
08/03/23 20:32:30 rf0ku9woO
>378
こんなときアポスト購入だとね
382:名称未設定
08/03/23 22:29:59 xHZMxCGT0
>>379
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.apple.com)
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.apple.com)
383:名称未設定
08/03/23 23:56:32 7geHQyY20
例の茶封筒（紙）は日本ではどこで購入できるんですかね？
アメリカのフェルトの茶封筒型(Manila Air)はもうずいぶん前に注文してあるのにまだ届かない。
紙のでもいいから欲しいんですけど、どこにも売っていない。
レザーのものもAmazonでは出てるけど、それは日本には売ってくれないし。
いやはやです。
384:名称未設定
08/03/24 00:18:33 RUq/JEiy0
>>383
参考までに聞くけど、日本ではどんなところで探したんですか？
大きな文房具屋さん（銀座の伊東屋みたいなところ）で扱ってないかな。
385:名称未設定
08/03/24 06:47:49 c7oCbe9y0
俺はホームセンターで買った薄い緩衝材の入ったA4の紙封筒を使ってる。
意外とぴったりで具合がいい。
PBG4で使っていた入れ物はぶかぶかで合わない。
386:名称未設定
08/03/24 08:09:42 A3BO6KcM0
>>383
茶色じゃないけどこんなのとか？
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.deskdepot.jp)
CMで使われていたのも、この社内連絡用の封筒だよね？
（あやふや）
387:名称未設定
08/03/24 08:42:19 A3BO6KcM0
茶色も見つけた
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.rakuten.co.jp)
388:名称未設定
08/03/24 09:12:12 CmRRcuPq0
>>386
>>387
感謝、感謝。両方とも注文しました。
389:名称未設定
08/03/24 13:00:17 jQb6i/2T0
最近他のMacでも三本指スクロールしちまうｗ
マルチタッチユーティリティどっか出さないかな。
FireFoxのプラグインのが先に出るかな。
イーモバ規制はえあらーにはきついぜ…
390:名称未設定
08/03/24 13:34:38 Hmw+3cC80
>>388
なんかオーダーが殺到して、もう在庫ないとか。
391:名称未設定
08/03/24 22:03:41 VKvcr7GX0
動物農場
392:名称未設定
08/03/24 22:07:25 H9WALN8W0
>>389
全くだね。
MBPでもやってから、web見るのをMBAに切り替えたりしてるw
393:名称未設定
08/03/24 22:25:00 Kf9hqwYV0
>>389
イーモバ規制って何ですか？
394:名称未設定
08/03/25 01:33:29 Fy6zOV280
2chでイーモバイルが規制されたんじゃね？
395:名称未設定
08/03/25 01:40:01 PAjqEjsM0
現時点では、ワイヤレスUSBの用途は限られており、規格化の分裂騒動や、
Bluetoothとの棲み分けなどの問題も抱えている。
URLﾘﾝｸ(pc.watch.impress.co.jp)
Airに採用されることは、当分ないかな。
396:名称未設定
08/03/25 10:05:13 +waZcZYZ0
MacBook Air を持ってベッドに入る
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.tidbits.com)
最後のまとめとして、この MacBook Air というマシンも、このレビュー記事自体も、どちらも
万人向けのものではないと言っておこう。もしも私の書いたことがあなたの心の琴線に触れたなら、
そしてあなたもきっと似たような方法で MacBook Air を使いこなせると思えたなら、その場合は
あなたにとってもこれが理想のマシンかもしれない。でも、もしも新しい Mac を手に入れた私の
家庭内のばか騒ぎが軽薄すぎると思われたなら、あるいは、ストレージも小さくてプロセッシング
パワーも見劣りし、接続性も劣るようなマシンのために余分のお金を払う気にはならないと
思われるなら、その場合は MacBook か、MacBook Pro の方を考慮すべきだ。いずれのマシンも、
もっと支出に見合う以上のものが得られるだろうから。言葉を替えて言えば、この MacBook Air は
上品に仕立て上げられたスーツのようなものだ。エレガントで、そのフォルムは完璧、ちょっと
エキゾチックな趣さえある。けれどもこれは決して、どんなシーズンにもどんな場でも着られる
コスト効率の高い洋服ではないのだ。
397:名称未設定
08/03/25 13:17:54 wOGkNTae0
別にパワーに見劣りしてないし接続性も
悪くないと思うけどなぁ。
まぁ人それぞれだけどさ。
398:名称未設定
08/03/25 13:19:10 fRkfrc7w0
信者の鑑です
399:名称未設定
08/03/25 13:34:57 k8WNIPDi0
>>6のバッテリーの儀式ってAirもやったほうがいいのかな？
400:名称未設定
08/03/25 13:52:42 glLmzu590
>>399
気休め
401:名称未設定
08/03/25 15:46:57 cKpqa5s70
>>345
なにこのハック。凄いんだけど。。。
402:名称未設定
08/03/25 16:21:37 wGj7sdMH0
何が起きた？
403:名称未設定
08/03/25 16:36:49 nI61lKTf0
火事が発生すると火事場見物に集まった人の写真をとりますが、
それは、放火犯自身が火事を見に来る確率が非常に高いから
です。また、善意の第３者を装って火事を消防署に連絡する輩も
多くみられます。
404:名称未設定
08/03/25 21:38:06 IBlsFZVy0
MacBookAirを購入したんですが、マウスも購入予定です。
Microsoftの2.4 GHz Bluetoothを採用したチルトホイール付き
5ボタンワイヤレスレーザーマウスを購入しようと思うのですが、
これはbluetooth内臓のAirでもUSBに付属のレシーバ？みたいのを
差し込まないと使用できないのでしょうか？
一つしかないUSBなので、できれば使わないで仕事したいのですが・・。
ご教授よろしくお願いいたします。
405:名称未設定
08/03/25 21:45:28 cKpqa5s70
「airでマウスは使うべからず」
406:名称未設定
08/03/25 21:52:03 8rjtp9y40
>>404
大丈夫。MicrosoftのBlueToothマウスは、そのままUSB埋めずに使えてる。
407:名称未設定
08/03/25 22:03:52 umX6XoVV0
>404
つーか、Airでマウス使うなんてもったいないよ。
マウス買う前にマルチタッチトラックパッド試してみなよ。
買うのはその後でも出来るでしょ？
408:名称未設定
08/03/25 22:09:30 WpMMoSDf0
なぜ我が物顔で他人の使用方法を指図できるんだ
409:名称未設定
08/03/25 22:09:39 qqjmKQlH0
兵学校で使うときは、やはりマウスがおすすめだね。
OS-Xのみなら、不要と思うけど。やっぱ窓では使いにくい。
410:名称未設定
08/03/25 22:16:55 Fc0rsNsG0
今日届いた。
めし喰い終わってこれから開封。
まずはバッテリーの儀式を、、、って気休めなのか。
411:名称未設定
08/03/25 22:26:54 wGj7sdMH0
雑誌や古新聞の間に丸一日挟んでおくのが最新の儀式
412:名称未設定
08/03/25 22:53:25 VseOCJbu0
すっごい馬鹿みたいな質問で申し訳ないのですが
バッテリーの儀式って一番最初に移行とかする前に
やるの？？？（移行するときはアダプターをつけていないと
だめですよね。アップデートとか、そういうの）
誰か教えて下さい。お願いします。