08/03/18 22:04:36 2illPRc+0
>102
亀レスで申し訳ないけど、Air 買ってから興奮のあまり
キャスターバック、ブリーフケースと買い込んで、
普段使い用のバックを求めて買ったのがこれ
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.victorinox.co.jp)
緩衝材が入っていて、エアもそのままつっこめる。電源もDVDドライブも余裕ではいる。
一寸幅が広いけど持ち歩いていて不都合無し。
凄く軽くて、肩にかけていても重さを忘れるほど。書類もけっこう入ります。
ポケットも使いやすくてほんとうに便利です。
Air 同様買って良かった。
ちなみにスイスアーミーナイフの会社みたいです。
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.victorinox.co.jp)
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08/03/18 22:16:07 C/DLMsLJO
>>175
102です。レスありがと、たしか万能ナイフで有名なメーカーですよね、なかなか良さげですね、検討してみます
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08/03/18 22:51:48 s0dk2n/a0
鞄
今までの鞄が重かったのでオイラは今日からコレ
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.focal.co.jp)
重量は書いてないが1kgらしい。マイナスとしては雨の日はちょっと
心配・・・(apple.comのレビューでも同じ思いの人がいる）
タテ型が欲しくてコレにしたんだけどタテ型って種類少ないねー
178:名称未設定
08/03/18 23:00:46 rxMXnC/G0
safari3.1きた
179:名称未設定
08/03/18 23:00:53 fmsAVRz20
safariのアップデート来たね。
入れたけど、たしかに速くなった。
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08/03/18 23:01:19 wd2fBiw80
>>154,155,162,166,167,170
>>155じゃないけど、うちもP902iでAirとBT接続できてるよ。
ドライバって言ってもBluetoothはOS標準サポートなので、
実質的にはモデムスクリプトにP/FxxxiXを選択してダイヤルアップ先を登録してるだけだね。
とりあえず、[システム環境設定]→[Bluetooth]で携帯電話を登録した後、
[ネットワーク環境設定]を使って、登録したBluetooth機器経由のネットワーク環境を
作れば良い。(不要なのかも知れないけど、オレのところでは携帯電話側にも
AirをBTの通信先として登録しておいた)
その後、[ネットワーク環境設定]でネットの通信I/FとしてBluetooth経由を選択して、
ダイヤルアップに使用するモデムスクリプトの設定([ネットワーク環境設定]の
「詳細...」ボタン)で、製造元：NTT DoComoを選ぶと、機種名に「P/FxxxiX」という
のが選べるので、それを選択する…って流れになるね。
訳が分からなくなりかねないので、[ネットワーク環境設定]のパネルでは、
Bluetooth通信用にひとつ独立したネットワーク環境を作ってやって、
Bluetooth以外の通信I/Fを(AirMacも含めて)全て削除した環境を作って
環境を切り替えるようにするのがいいと思う。
181:名称未設定
08/03/19 00:55:38 p++/UuR70
Pantherでも同じ設定できるのかなあ・・・
P/FxxxiXってのが無いんじゃないかと心配しながら
PowerBookで明日P905iを試してみます
182:名称未設定
08/03/19 02:14:18 wx1U91nH0
見た目で純正スパドラ買うか、
それとも仮想CD機能付の外付けHDD買うか…。
後者のほうでもBootcampにインストールできるそうで、かなり悩みます。
仮想CD機能がついていて、且つbootできるオシャレな外付けHDDを知っている方、誰かいませんか？
暫定的にはBUFFALO（URLﾘﾝｸ(buffalo.jp)）がよさそうです。
183:名称未設定
08/03/19 02:27:50 AOet0Mkg0
鞄とかに入れて、ちょっと圧迫されると、
クリックボタンが液晶枠の角と接触して傷になるね。
気になる人は潰れに強いケースに入れた方がいいかもしれん。
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08/03/19 02:29:15 AOet0Mkg0
>>182
よくわからんけど、外付けHDDとスーパードライブって比べるもんなの？
両方かったらいいんじゃないかな？
185:名称未設定
08/03/19 02:36:03 K3xNZUGI0
>>158
BC+Vista環境だが、似たような感じだなぁ。
1）4本タッチで青画面になる。
2）タッチパッドが無反応になることがある。
3）スリープに関しては、ハイブリッドスリープだと移行に失敗することがある。
通常のスリープなら今のところ失敗はない（たまたまかもしれんが）。
4）Fnキーで輝度・音量調整は問題ないが、KBバックライト調整ができなくなることがある。
5）Vistaでも液晶の自動輝度調整機能は有効にならない。
今後のドライバアップデートに期待ってところか。
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08/03/19 02:59:03 wx1U91nH0
>>184
確かに仰るとおりですね。
しかしよくよく考えると、スパドラを使う機会がWindowsを入れるときくらいしか思い当たらず、
どうやら外付けHDDのみの購入になりそうです。うっかりしてました（苦笑）
もし使う頻度が高くなりそうであれば、併せて購入しようかと思います。
踏ん切りつきました。ありがとうございます。
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08/03/19 03:00:43 BhU8LkpJ0
ケーズデンキで１週間前にSuperDriveを注文。
本当はアップルストアのほうが早いと思ったんだけど
届く日数は変わらないと店の人に言われて頼んだ。
ネットでは２４時間以内に出荷とあるが
こっちのほうが早かったんじゃないかと・・・・。
188:180
08/03/19 08:24:24 hoX5GUB+0
>>181
何でAirのスレでPantherの話が出てくるのかよく分からんｗｗｗですが、
Pantherの[ネットワーク環境設定]のパネルの設定内容は
Leopardとはちょっと違ってたと記憶しています。
オレ自身、Pantherの頃はBT経由じゃなくて、USBケーブル＋FOMA USB Driver使って
FOMA経由のネット接続やってたのでちょっと記憶が曖昧なんだけど、
少なくとも、Leopardにある「製造元」の選択肢はPantherにはなかった筈で、
直接「機種名」を選択する形になってたような。
ただ、いずれにせよ、Pantherには「P/FxxxiX」に該当するような
モデムスクリプトは準備されてなかったように記憶しています。
と言うか、Panther当時はOS標準ではDoCoMo向けのモデムスクリプト自体が
全く準備されてなかったような。
>>180の最後の４行の部分のような設定はPantherでも可能ですので、
BT通信やりたいのであれば、やはり独立したネットワーク接続環境を作って
通常のLAN接続と切り替えるようにしておいた方がいいとは思いますね。
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08/03/19 08:49:12 2EuEPUyH0
>>187
間違いなくAppleStoreの方が早い。
Appleは直営と量販店への出荷数に差をつけ杉、困ったもの。
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08/03/19 10:06:18 q6LCXKM60
>>158
Vista 64ビットSP1も同じだな。
>１）４本タッチでブルースクリーン
100%再現する。
>２）タッチパッドが無反応になることがある
極たまに起こる。
デバイスマネージャでApple Multitochを一旦、無効にして有効に
戻すと復帰することだけは分かっている。
再現したら以下のコマンドをDOSプロンプトから入力して復帰しな
いか試してみようと思うが、なかなか再現せず。
sc start applemtp
または
devcon restart *PID_0225
または
devcon disable *PID_0225
devcon enable *PID_0225
devconコマンドはMSからダウンロード要。
>３）スタンバイしないでフリーズすることが半々の確立でおこる
Vistaインストール直後は不安定だったけど、Windows Updateする
と今のところ問題なし。
>４）Fnキーで輝度調整やミュートなどのアイコンが表示されない
これは起きたことないな。
>５）OSXだと暗くなると液晶バックライトも暗くなるがBC+XPではKBバックライトが点くだけ
そんなに困らないけどね。
191:135
08/03/19 11:41:22 cnEXLtLM0
>>90
>URLﾘﾝｸ(sourceforge.net)
>LUA-KTX持ってるから試してみる。
すまん遅くなった。
動かんかったorz
まぁこれUSB1.1だから実質10Mだし、純正の方がいいぞ。
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08/03/19 11:54:54 BhU8LkpJ0
>>189
やっぱり！やられたよ。
ネットで買えばよかった。
193:名称未設定
08/03/19 12:07:09 4ZeqVjiy0
storeにも申し込んで、遅かった方をキャンセル。
194:名称未設定
08/03/19 12:14:38 BhU8LkpJ0
カードで買っちゃったんだよね・・・・
195:名称未設定
08/03/19 13:17:54 Q4krQq+u0
>>185
>>190
158です。情報㌧クス！Vistaでも大して変わらないと.....
にしても 190氏 のデバイス無効→有効方法はありがたい！今度試してみます。
>４）Fnキーで輝度調整やミュートなどのアイコンが表示されない
これはMS IntelliPoint 入れた前後でおきてるような気がするが
いよいよ仕事でバリバリ使い始めたのでなかなか検証できん。
昨晩スタンバイしたらブルースクリーンになったよ orz
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08/03/19 13:56:10 tFZhBSFw0
MacBook ProとMacBook Airの両方をお持ちの方に質問があります。
（当方、MacBook Airは持っていますが、MacBook Pro持っていません）
MacBook ProのACアダプターは、MacBook Airで使えるのでしょうか？
二つのACアダプタの電圧は同じですか？違いますか？
197:名称未設定
08/03/19 14:03:28 y5Tj441P0
>>196
つかえます（はまります）が、電圧が違うのでお勧めできませんし、変な角度で差し込むことになるので
平らな机の上ではつかえません（MBAを浮かせるか、斜めにしないといけない）。
198:名称未設定
08/03/19 14:17:18 uRIxX/Pm0
電圧は同じはず。従来のほうが電流は大きいから充電は早いかも。ただ浮く。
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08/03/19 14:41:57 tFZhBSFw0
>>197
MacBook ProのACアダプタの電圧は18Vくらいですか？
Apple MagSafe Airline 電源アダプタを買ってきて、
PowerBook用の電源をMacBook Airに繋げられるように改造したのだが、
PowerBook用のACアダプタ24Vだった。orz
200:名称未設定
08/03/19 14:44:43 tFZhBSFw0
>>198
MacBook Proと電源の電圧同じなの？
201:名称未設定
08/03/19 16:11:25 sVMEGO5+O
調べてみたら、MBPは18.5V。
MBAは14.5Vだね。
MBPのACアダプタがMBAで使えるって報告もよく見かけるし、
オレのところでも試したら一応使えたんですが、
形状の問題もあるし、常用するのは避けた方がいいんでしょうね。
202:名称未設定
08/03/19 16:41:44 tFZhBSFw0
>>201
PowerBook用のACアダプタおそるおそるつないだら、
一応いごいてる。でも本体に負担かかりそうで怖い。
飛行機のairlineの電圧は15Vとなっているみたいだが、
airlineではバッテリの充電ができないとなっているので、
ACアダプタ14.5Vの電圧で大丈夫なんだろうか？
airlineでは、電流のlimitが問題となるのかも。
203:名称未設定
08/03/19 17:18:54 yHxPrwwj0
久しぶりに見た。
『いごいてる』
おじいちゃんが使っていた。
世代の問題だと思っていたが、なんか若そうなので、方言だったのか。
それがいま分かった。
千葉の人でしょ？
204:名称未設定
08/03/19 17:22:54 BhU8LkpJ0
www
和んだw
205:名称未設定
08/03/19 17:42:35 i8iYF2BX0
動かないことを「いぬかない」とか言ったり（w
で、>202
PowerBook用のじゃなくてMacBookPro用のでしょ。
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08/03/19 18:05:36 xkHlILAJ0
>>196
使えると言えば使えるけど
主機にはきっちり負担がかかるだろうと思うので
一時的な使用に控えた方がいいと思うよ
207:名称未設定
08/03/19 18:48:01 +DBdZ8hRO
RemoteDiskについて
いまいち理解できていないのですが、インターネット経由で共有するということなのでしょうか？それともＰＳＰ同士の通信のようなものなのでしょうか？
208:名称未設定
08/03/19 18:52:42 y5Tj441P0
PSP？
たしかにバッテリーは発火性の高いソニー製ですが。
209:名称未設定
08/03/19 19:14:17 NA+2i/XF0
さて、これが初のLeopard機なわけだが、ATOK2006は不具合なく動くかな？
2007買おうにも、もうすぐ2008出そうだ…
210:名称未設定
08/03/19 19:23:55 NA+2i/XF0
OfficeもiWorkも体験版入ってないんだね。HDDがちっちゃいからかな。
211:名称未設定
08/03/19 20:33:29 AOet0Mkg0
逆にMBAのACアダプタでMBPを充電しようとすると、
使いながらだとほとんど充電されないね。
使ってる分の電力の供給でいっぱいいっぱいで、
充電にまでまわせないのかな。
さすがにバッテリー残量が減る事はないが、増えもしない。
212:名称未設定
08/03/19 21:51:42 bsAuF/HQ0
>>211
赤くならないよね
213:名称未設定
08/03/19 23:17:35 QAblPXFf0
>>72
今日ジーニアスバーに行ったときに聞いてみた。
真っ暗なところでバックライトキーボードが消えるのは仕様です、とのことでした。
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08/03/19 23:35:13 11SZW1eW0
>>213
>真っ暗なところでバックライトキーボードが消えるのは仕様です、とのことでした。
マジで！？w
215:名称未設定
08/03/19 23:36:54 6UuxXfYh0
どんだけ真っ暗なんだよ。
216:名称未設定
08/03/19 23:47:51 ZR2Dfo9P0
>>74ってことか。
しかしすごい「仕様」だな。
217:名称未設定
08/03/19 23:51:32 EDovoWGF0
これまでMBPとThinkPadを常に（休みの日さえ）持ち続けてきた。
Airを買って、ブーキャン入れて、大幅な軽量化ができた。
というわけで、使った後も書類やノートの間に、ストッと収まる
ようになった。この感触がうれしくて、インナーケースはやっぱり
いらないなと思うワンコであった。
218:名称未設定
08/03/20 00:04:41 6UuxXfYh0
AirでWireless Dock使ってる人いる？
やっとAir+Time CapsuleでiTunesライブラリが充実してきたから
nanoと同期しようと思ってWireless Dock接続用ソフトをインストールしようとしたら出来ねえ！（レパードには対応している。）
最新版落としてきても同じくインストール失敗。もちろん繋がらず。
で、四苦八苦した挙げ句対処法が何とか判った。
当てずっぽうでごちゃごちゃやったから正確な順序は忘れたが、
インストーラーのパッケージを開いてcontained_packages内のモジュールを個別にインストール後、
Dock_Link_10_2.mpkgをインストールすると成功した。
Dock_Link_10_4.mpkgでは失敗した。
他に使ってる人いるか判らんけど参考まで。
ちなみにWireless Dock、発売当初は2万したが今はアマゾンで4500で買える。
219:名称未設定
08/03/20 00:12:10 +TBH41YW0
真っ暗＝ディスプレイもついてない＝キーボード見える必要ない、
ってことかな。だとすれば妥当に思えるけど。
220:名称未設定
08/03/20 00:43:13 q128CNl40
月明かりもないほどのほんとの真っ暗なシチュエーションで
パソコン使う事ってなくね？
221:名称未設定
08/03/20 01:07:11 TNieKJ4g0
真っ暗でキーボードひかったらリッドクローズでこまるじゃん。
222:名称未設定
08/03/20 01:15:37 2UH7vKgB0
まあ、少なくとも真っ暗＝ディスプレイも見えない、
だから妥当な仕様かと思う。
223:名称未設定
08/03/20 01:24:18 T0RQoalt0
>>221
蓋が閉まった事くらい明るさ以外で理解してほしいな。
常識。
224:名称未設定
08/03/20 01:53:51 2UH7vKgB0
>>223
何が常識？
明るさ以外で感知させるメリットは？
225:名称未設定
08/03/20 01:59:13 6/lCF/1t0
FONナイト行ってきた。Airなヤツがいるかと思ったら一人もいなかった。
俺も持って行こうかと思ってはいたんだが、雨なのでやめた。
会場で一番多かったのはiPod Touch（とiPhone）だったなあ。
ｽﾚﾁ&ﾁﾗ裏ｽﾏﾝ
226:名称未設定
08/03/20 02:23:59 q128CNl40
多分開閉の認識は磁石でやってると思うのだが。
なんかソフトウェア的なバグっぽい感じがするな。
１）手でセンサー部に直接光が当たらないよう影を作る。
２）その状態でKBライトの調節を行う→KBライトが点灯
３）一度手を離して影がない状態にする→KBライトが消灯
４）再度手で影を作る→KBライト点灯せず
（１と４のときの環境光の強さは同じくらいという事）
液晶バックライトは素直に明るさに連動してる。
そのうちアップデートで改善されるんじゃね？
227:名称未設定
08/03/20 02:25:00 q128CNl40
>>222
うちのは真っ暗な状態でもディスプレイは見えてるけど。。
真っ暗＝センサーを完全に指で隠す
228:名称未設定
08/03/20 03:19:09 2UH7vKgB0
>>227
いや、だから普通に使っててディスプレイも見ない（光らせない）
ってことはないだろ？
真っ暗だとバックライトキーボードを消すのは妥当かと。
229:名称未設定
08/03/20 03:23:49 q128CNl40
え、え？？
言ってる事がよくわからん。
>>222の
＞真っ暗＝ディスプレイも見えない
真っ暗ってバックライトの事？
環境光じゃなくて。
230:名称未設定
08/03/20 03:24:34 cijktPlO0
映画を観ていて暗いシーンになったときに明滅するとしたら興ざめだな。
気づいたということは、普通に使ってて再現する状況になったんだろう。
大して不便はないだろうが妥当とはいえないような。
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08/03/20 03:28:19 2UH7vKgB0
>>229
いや、だから普通に使ってるときは少なくともディスプレイは
光っているのだから、環境光が真っ暗ということはないだろう。
つまり、環境光が真っ暗の場合＝使っていない＝バックライト
キーボード消灯でも妥当だろうということ。
>>230
なるほど、確かに興ざめかもしれない。
が、オレだったらバックライトキーボード消すな。
MBP だとどうなんだろう。
232:名称未設定
08/03/20 03:32:01 q128CNl40
>>231
ああ、ディスプレイバックライト自体が環境光になるって事ね。
でもセンサーが液晶側だから、画面の明るさはセンサーに届きにくそう。
センサーが反応しない程度だと思うけど。。MBPだと違うけど。
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08/03/20 03:34:21 cijktPlO0
>>231
ターミナルの背景が黒という程度でも再現するというから
キーボードライトを消せというのは強引じゃないかな。
234:名称未設定
08/03/20 05:41:59 HcgXKOMl0
また忘れてならないのが「MacBook Air」だ。1月中旬に発表されながら2月初旬まで
出荷されなかったこの超薄型ノートMacは、2月のApple製ノートPC販売の約20％を
占めている。しかも、Appleにとって好都合なことに、この新機種が既存の製品ラインの
セールスを浸食することはなかったようだ。「MacBook Airは、販売量を伸ばすチャンスを
Appleに与えた」とBaker氏は述べている。
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.computerworld.jp)
>2月のApple製ノートPC販売の約20％を占めている。
凄い数字じゃん。
235:名称未設定
08/03/20 07:15:11 veaF7F6v0
>>234
アメリカのアポストアでは先週までろくに在庫が無かった事を考えたら
たいしたもんだよ。 在庫が十分にある３月の売り上げがどうなるか
興味あるね。
236:名称未設定
08/03/20 09:04:58 rkhySDFt0
Air買ったけどたいしたことないな。なぜそう感じるかわからないけど。
とりあえず重い。そして大して薄くない。
箱とかも高級感を感じない。いかにも中国で作ったって感じ。
237:名称未設定
08/03/20 09:46:50 6/lCF/1t0
それは残念。
238:名称未設定
08/03/20 09:48:48 T+drnNOq0
毎日、Airを前にこのスレで出てた風呂敷で持ち運んでます。
軽くて便利だよう。
239:名称未設定
08/03/20 10:21:46 XWKFtOKz0
>>187
2月1日にビックカメラで前金全額払ってまだ連絡無い俺は負け組？
Air1.8G + SSD ｄｅａｔｈ
240:名称未設定
08/03/20 10:29:14 q128CNl40
>>239
負け組としかいいようが・・・
可哀想すぎる
241:名称未設定
08/03/20 10:39:39 T0RQoalt0
>>224
>明るさ以外で感知させるメリットは？
馬鹿にはわからないんだろうな。。
242:名称未設定
08/03/20 11:11:27 TK3phioj0
本日Apple Store、New York 5th Ave店で購入。
州税含めて$1,949.67。$1.00=￥99で計算すると
￥193,000で、3万7千円ぐらい安い計算。
243:名称未設定
08/03/20 12:11:36 2UH7vKgB0
>>241
つまりお前には判らないけど騒いでたということか
244:名称未設定
08/03/20 12:35:11 mTBUol7K0
ふたの締まりは明るさで判断してるって本当か？
なぜ、そんな曖昧な判断ではなく、ふたの状態を内部で感知するようにしないのか。
245:名称未設定
08/03/20 12:36:34 q128CNl40
>>244
嘘だよ。そんなレトロな方式な訳がない。
246:名称未設定
08/03/20 12:45:51 8QSh247i0
しかし↓こういうの見てるとAirのバッテリーは素晴らしいね。
省電力設定でこれで、普通に使うと連中２時間半とかしか持たないくせに「公称１１時間駆動」って詐欺じゃね？
あきれたもね。
URLﾘﾝｸ(image.itmedia.co.jp)
247:名称未設定
08/03/20 13:16:10 DIMoWhPf0
fILOFAXきた～
サイズ的には本当にピッタリだね。ACアダプターも入らないけど。
でも、さすがに上質。しばらくはこれでいってみよう。
248:名称未設定
08/03/20 13:23:47 2UH7vKgB0
>>246
ITmediaをご愛読いただきありがとうございます。
弊社では、読者の皆さまにより快適で有用なサービス提供を目指して
おりますが、一部のサイトからの度重なる大量画像直接リンクにより、
表示が遅い、つながりにくいといった、通常サービスの著しい低下を
招くに至り、限られたリソース環境下での対策として、2004年2月24日
より、サイト外からの誘導による画像のダウンロードに制限を設け、
通常閲覧速度の回復を実施させていただいております。
249:名称未設定
08/03/20 13:40:11 A/VMweLz0
>>72
全画面表示の背景色黒の透明度0のターミナルで仕事をしていて、
集中していて夜になっても電気をつけなかったんだ。
そしたらキーボードバックライトが消えた。
で、ジーニアスバーに行ったときに聞いてみたら、ジーニアスの人も真っ暗な環境で再現実験をしてみてくれて、
おれのマシン以外でもジーニアスのマシンでも再現したと。
それで、仕様ですね・・・と。
250:名称未設定
08/03/20 13:55:38 tqb37qEw0
>>248
ｺﾚﾃﾞﾄﾞｳﾀﾞ
URLﾘﾝｸ(plusd.itmedia.co.jp)
悪いとまではいわないけど、結局、日本のモバイルPCが魔法のように
良いってわけじゃなくて。CPU処理能力とかとのトレードオフなんだね。
251:名称未設定
08/03/20 13:56:17 q128CNl40
>>249
そこまで極端なケースってほぼゼロじゃねえか？
KBライトの挙動が変なのは間違いないが。。
252:名称未設定
08/03/20 14:05:41 6/lCF/1t0
>>250
日本のノートはバッテリ持ち時間の測定基準（JETAだっけ？）が非現実的だからね。
なんかあの基準ってメーカーのメーカーによるメーカーのための基準という感じ。
253:名称未設定
08/03/20 14:07:03 Rp4TSuj/0
>>187です。
>>239
同じく自分も前金だったよ。
アップルのネットストアの方が早いです。
結局昨日ケーズに問い合わせしたら、
SuperDriveは現在入手困難で入荷未定とか言ってやがったよ。
カードで買ったけどキャンセルした。
で、昨日アップルのネットストアで注文したら
なんと今日届いた。
ケーズの店員に急いでるからネットで買うと言ったら
ネットと届く日数は変わらないと言ってた店員。
１週間もロスしたわ。
254:名称未設定
08/03/20 14:26:00 8QSh247i0
>>252
だよなあ。
マカーは現実的な稼働可能時間を討議するのに対して、基地外はカタログスペックだけで暴れるからなあw
重い重いって軽いモデルと比較されるが、ウイン環境にだって重いのが大半じゃん、とか思いながら支離滅裂(笑)
んま基地外は相手にしないのがいちばんですね
255:名称未設定
08/03/20 14:40:05 Bfz48RJD0
実体はどこも七掛けなんだから公称値は多いにこしたことはない。
NECは割と控えめで実測値に近いらしいが
256:名称未設定
08/03/20 14:40:43 cijktPlO0
>>246
モバイルノートの用途から考えて
光学ドライブでDVDの連続再生テストは普通とは言えないだろ。
いくらなんでも酷だよ。
257:名称未設定
08/03/20 14:46:12 XWC1s2DB0
>>254
intel化で比較しやすくなったおかげで、Macと同性能で同価格帯のWinマシン挙げてみろと言うと遁走するドザ多数w
258:名称未設定
08/03/20 14:56:34 menu/YZQ0
>>253
まあ、普通の商品なら流通が少ないと店員の言う通りになる
ことが多いから、そう責めてやりなさんな。
ただ、Appleの商品は国内の流通とAppleStoreが全く別物
という特殊事情があって、これはApple製品と付き合う上で
常識と思っておいたほうがいい。
>>256
あのサイズで、DVD回しっぱなしで3時間以上動くのは
逆に大したもんだと思う。とはいえ、VAIOのTypeTを使っ
てると大したことしてなくても公称の半分強くらい。
259:189
08/03/20 16:10:09 6/lCF/1t0
>>253
ね、言ったとおりだったでしょ？
260:名称未設定
08/03/20 17:23:18 Rp4TSuj/0
>>258
そうだね・・・。
とりあえずすぐ商品が届いたので一安心です。
>>259
あい。勉強になりますた。ありがとう。
261:名称未設定
08/03/20 23:00:52 2Be6wEH50
これだけ省電力化の進んだ昨今JEITA 1.0ってほとんど連続スリープ時間計測だよなぁ....
262:名称未設定
08/03/21 06:16:21 vw8eL6SH0
アメリカでの話だけど、アップルの修理早いね。
先週の木曜日に電話で俺のMBAが起動出来なくなったって
話したら金曜日にDHLの箱が届いて、そのままDHLにMBAもっていかせて、
今日（こっちの木曜日）に返ってきた。
修理内容はハードドライブ交換。
今またセットアップし直し中。
263:名称未設定
08/03/21 09:26:11 oNB8jYbG0
液晶にむらがあんだよなー
結構おおきめだし、真ん中までいかないけどよく使う付近にあるし、きになる
こーゆーのって修理してくれないかなぁ
264:名称未設定
08/03/21 10:08:54 ALCAJb6e0
むらってわけじゃないけど、真正面から見ないとSafariのRSSが未読かどうか区別できない orz
265:名称未設定
08/03/21 10:09:14 a7c1UkGD0
>>262
機種違ってあれだけど俺はiMac金曜の夜出して翌週の火曜に受け取った
修理内容は一緒でHDD交換
266:名称未設定
08/03/21 10:19:46 Rv9e9PTy0
結局、修理って部品在庫の状況が問題なことが
多いからね。
以上箇所を交換して、正常に戻ることが確かめられて
から対応となるのがほとんどなので。
HDDの場合は比較的速いです。
267:名称未設定
08/03/21 11:00:24 vw8eL6SH0
やっぱり日本はアメリカよりはやいんだね。
アメリカで発送期間いれて一週間で直ると思わなかったから。
VaioのときもXboxのときも一ヶ月ぐらいかかったからさ。
268:名称未設定
08/03/21 12:45:29 dZmzetg70
>>255
>実体はどこも七掛けなんだから公称値は多いにこしたことはない。
>NECは割と控えめで実測値に近いらしいが
アポは公称値に割と近いかと
JEITA 1.0 は５～６掛け
269:名称未設定
08/03/21 17:26:12 MypwkYKY0
SSDの人、やっぱTCで運用してるの？それとも小型外付け？
270:名称未設定
08/03/21 19:52:22 BxD/ZPee0
>>269
んー、最近はユーロかな。
271:名称未設定
08/03/21 19:58:21 HGVRoMaV0
>>270
あなたと、合体したい
272:名称未設定
08/03/21 20:05:16 jovXY7h80
だれだよ↓こんなスレみてんのは
【♂増強】ペニス増大法を語ろう 31mm【チントレ】
273:名称未設定
08/03/21 20:32:31 gjo5PTxN0
IE使っているのはドザくらいだろ
274:名称未設定
08/03/21 20:35:05 V3MQG+muO
Safariも結構いるんじゃね
275:名称未設定
08/03/21 20:59:31 gjo5PTxN0
おすすめ２ちゃんねるは、Safariに対応したの？
276:名称未設定
08/03/21 21:50:35 cj6xDe/q0
もともと対応してるだろ。
277:名称未設定
08/03/21 21:59:44 yv3ZII4K0
そうなんだ？
IEだけかと思ってた。
278:名称未設定
08/03/21 22:11:30 cj6xDe/q0
逆になぜIEだけと思ったのか知りたいくらいだな。
279:名称未設定
08/03/21 22:15:33 D3cyt7K00
>>272からの現実逃避じゃん？
280:名称未設定
08/03/21 22:45:35 cj6xDe/q0
べつに前向きでいいことだと思うけれど。
281:名称未設定
08/03/21 23:09:44 vw8eL6SH0
今回ハードドライブ交換されてからハードドライブのクリック音が大きくなった。
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
ここでも出てるけど、このぐらいの音って普通なの？
ハードドライブ交換する前は明らかにもっと小さい音だったんだけど。
282:名称未設定
08/03/21 23:46:45 gQynjq/h0
ヒント：SSDは静か
283:名称未設定
08/03/21 23:56:47 vw8eL6SH0
>>282
全然ヒントになってないし・・・・
284:名称未設定
08/03/22 00:01:36 BpkATve00
>>281
これほどひどくはないが俺のは小さくて短い音は鳴る。
たまになるという感じ。
285:名称未設定
08/03/22 00:28:11 A2/HpYRg0
>>284
やっぱり普通そうだよね・・・
交換してから本当音が大きくなったんだよね。
でもサポセン電話しても"仕様です”って言われるんだろうな。
かなりへこむよ・・・。
286:名称未設定
08/03/22 00:39:51 lYhsPln20
>>285
そういうサポセン相手には履歴をつけられる前に電話切って何度もかけなおす。
こちらの情報教える前に、相手が石頭なヤツかどうかそれとなく確認してな。
うまくやれ。
287:名称未設定
08/03/22 00:48:44 A2/HpYRg0
>>286
なるほどね。
よし、がんばって電話してみるよ。
ありがと。
288:名称未設定
08/03/22 01:14:41 9RcAeHzP0
GeniusBarで修理に出した MacBook Air
（修理に出した理由は熱・ファンの回転・フリーズ）
が、結局何もされずに初期化だけされて帰ってきた。
（初期状態にしたら症状が消えたから）
とりあえず環境再構築して、TimeMachineでバックアップとってたら、
その途中でぶつんとシャットダウンorz。
ずいぶんファンが回るなあと気になってたんだが。
外付けHDD壊れてないか心配。
FirstAidかけたら赤字が出たので、修復かけた。
修復はできたけど、最悪の落ち方だよなぁ。。
289:名称未設定
08/03/22 01:20:17 PEDCCLNc0
Boot Camp + Vistaだと、何もしてなくてもファンが回りっぱなしだし触ると熱いし。
Mac OS Xだと、めったにファンは回らないのに。
そんなもんですか？
290:名称未設定
08/03/22 03:19:43 Q4JmkpVY0
URLﾘﾝｸ(japan.cnet.com)ノマディックなビジネススタイル、
価格差約16万円の価値--アップル「MacBook Air (SSDモデル）」
HDDがそうであったように、今後SSDがノートパソコンに普及すればするほど、
価格はどんどん下がり続けることは容易に予想できるし、1.8インチサイズで
128Gバイトを実現する製品のアナウンスも2007年中になされた。価格の下落や
容量の倍増がなされたとき、もっとも恩恵を受けるのはMacBook Airに他ならない。
より多くのユーザーが、SSDによるMacBook Air体験が可能になるのもそう遠くない
ミライの話だろう。ただ、そのミライを先取りすることが可能なことは、覚えておいて
損がないことである。
16万でミライを買った俺は後悔してないよ。
291:名称未設定
08/03/22 05:12:25 0Qdzf5gD0
>>289
そんなもん、MBA以外でも同じ
292:名称未設定
08/03/22 09:21:34 WCeJCJ+o0
>>289
Windowsはかなり無駄にCPU空回りしてるからなぁ
293:名称未設定
08/03/22 09:26:55 lYhsPln20
ミライのために今ミイラに……という俺様はミイラ取りがミイラ。
後悔してないよ……たぶん。
294:名称未設定
08/03/22 09:32:52 mvxZV9Rm0
購入して１週間です。
なんだかAirの底の部分（左斜め上）あたりが熱くなるのは普通ですか？
何か対処法はあるんだろうか。
295:名称未設定
08/03/22 10:11:48 PEDCCLNc0
>>291,292
thx.
Mac OS Xのほうが電源長持ちってことね。
296:名称未設定
08/03/22 10:15:54 PEDCCLNc0
>>294
CPUを食う処理が動いていると熱くなるね。
tabキーやファンクションキーのあたりが。
297:名称未設定
08/03/22 11:59:55 w/w68J2K0
ＣＭみたいに、キーボード側押さえないで片手で開けるの？
298:名称未設定
08/03/22 12:10:06 3spY9SCY0
>>297
いま試してみたんだけど、だいたいなんであんな風に開けられるんだ？
角って上下がぴったりと合わさっているから、すきまに爪をつっこまないと
開き始められない。 あれは仕掛けがあると思う。
299:名称未設定
08/03/22 12:19:36 w/w68J2K0
>>298
とん
いや、開け始めに両手が必要なのは構わないんだけど、開くときディスプレイ側を押すだけで開くのか気になって
俺の持ってるノートはディスプレイ側を押すと、キーボード側押さえてないと浮いちゃってそれが嫌なので
300:名称未設定
08/03/22 12:20:37 w/w68J2K0
あああ、すまん
301:名称未設定
08/03/22 12:21:00 pYL4B6o30
CMみたいには開かない。
半分ぐらいで重心が後ろに行って本体が浮く。
これ自体、おむつのCM見て「赤ちゃんは青い水出すんですか？」みたいな話。
302:名称未設定
08/03/22 12:24:01 w/w68J2K0
>>301
そうか、ありがとう
片手で開けられるくらい本体側がもっと重いほうがいいな
303:名称未設定
08/03/22 12:32:50 GX/bkMwY0
80度くらいまでは片手で開くよ。
うちのはそのあたりで本体が浮くので、片手で
開く→開いたところで本体に左手を添えつつ最後
まで開くような感じ。
304:名称未設定
08/03/22 12:40:29 ai3YH8Zw0
>303
俺のもそうだねぇ。
CMみたいになればいいのに。。
305:名称未設定
08/03/22 12:48:47 8s8lECIP0
上に持ち上げるようにして開けると押さえずに95度くらいまで開けられるぜ
こんなん毎回やってられないがw
306:名称未設定
08/03/22 13:38:11 1jY4J3Yx0
それにしてもMBAのファンまわりすぎじゃね？
307:名称未設定
08/03/22 13:45:43 xZPDyDNC0
動画のエンコードとかやると壊れそうな勢いで回るな
tabのあたりもけっこう熱くなるし
まぁそんな負荷かけるなって話なんだろうけど
308:名称未設定
08/03/22 14:24:16 KoqCGM6G0
WindowsのPCからRemote Diskでソフトをインストールしようと思ったんですが、
Windows PC名→ディスク名の認識までは進むのに、ディスクの中身を開けません…
「"ディスク名"のオリジナルの項目が見つからないため、操作を完了できません。」という
メッセージが出て中身が空っぽの状態になってしまいました。
（ソフト自体はこれまでiBookで使っていたものです）
ソフトは著作権が絡むから駄目なのかとも思ったのですが、
自分で撮った写真のデータを移そうと思っても駄目でした。
こういうメッセージが出る方いらっしゃいますか？
検索しても同じ例が1件しか出てこないんです。
309:名称未設定
08/03/22 15:39:09 DtxCqDpE0
不具合スレの方は厨の隔離スレみたいだな。
310:名称未設定
08/03/22 16:04:36 5fun66l/0
エスパーの修行もできるよｗ
311:名称未設定
08/03/22 16:05:46 Y8M0+q4P0
関わると病気になるぞありゃ。
312:名称未設定
08/03/22 18:45:10 YoYsFSL40
液晶の見やすさはどうなんでしょうね
かつてのシネマには及ばずとも今のシネマよりはマシなのかな
313:名称未設定
08/03/22 18:52:24 0Qdzf5gD0
>>312
店頭で比較してくるといい、杞憂だということに気がつくはず
314:名称未設定
08/03/22 18:57:56 5fun66l/0
先週ヨドバシで触ってきたよ。
下級信者？としてはデザインコンセプトだけで充分買いたい。
が、できれば初物にありがちな不良の対策が浸透するの待ちたくもあり。
315:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:07:45 FaKZwkTU0
既に初期不良で２回交換してもらった
316:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:12:43 1fdAfpJa0
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素直に次ぎか次のモデルまで待つべし。
317:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:44 CMKj0/Kh0
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318:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:45 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:45 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:45 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:45 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:45 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:46 CMKj0/Kh0
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324:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:46 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:46 CMKj0/Kh0
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326:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:47 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:46 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:47 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:47 CMKj0/Kh0
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333:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:48 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:47 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:48 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:48 CMKj0/Kh0
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337:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:50 CMKj0/Kh0
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338:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:50 CMKj0/Kh0
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339:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:50 CMKj0/Kh0
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340:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:49 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:50 CMKj0/Kh0
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342:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:50 CMKj0/Kh0
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08/03/22 19:17:50 CMKj0/Kh0
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344:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:51 CMKj0/Kh0
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345:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:17:51 CMKj0/Kh0
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346:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:25:58 FaKZwkTU0
すごい
347:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:45:33 tAVmyW070
既知外の成せる業だな
348:名称未設定
08/03/22 19:54:14 T0gYKNXy0
ちょっと質問なんだけど、
バッファローのLUA-U2-KTXってLANアダプタ
はOSXで使えるかな？
349:名称未設定
08/03/22 20:00:40 Vr2szNXu0
>>348
これでいけるかも
URLﾘﾝｸ(sustworks.com)
350:名称未設定
08/03/22 20:51:18 T0gYKNXy0
>>349
ありがとうございます。試してみます。
結果はまた報告します。
351:名称未設定
08/03/22 21:38:03 T0gYKNXy0
>>349
問題なく動いてそうです。
ありがとうございました。
352:名称未設定
08/03/22 21:54:18 KhZlRZqW0
1799ドルって今のレートだと179000円ちょっとだな。
さすがに23万も出せんわ。ばからしい。
アップルはいつまでぼったくるつもりなんだ？
353:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:01:39 Yhts2k9g0
1ドル150円になっても、絶対買わないくせにw
354:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:02:10 pYL4B6o30
円安になったからって値上げするブランドって結構あるけど、
（文房具とか。ファッションブランドとか、アルコールとか）
円高になって値下げしたってブランド聞かないのは俺だけ？
355:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:02:11 fNjYWLUO0
現実
URLﾘﾝｸ(pc.watch.impress.co.jp)
2007年国内PC市場出荷台数ベンダーシェア
NEC 20.3%
富士通 18.7%
DELL 14.0%
東芝 9.0%
日本HP 7.6%
ソニー 6.3%
レノボ･ジャパン 4.6%
日立製作所 2.8%
アップル 2.6% ←←←←（・∀・）ﾆﾔﾆﾔ
松下 2.1%
356:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:08:29 Yhts2k9g0
日本の夜明けは遠いな
357:名称未設定
08/03/22 22:08:36 f140NY0R0
円高以前に最初の価格設定が他のMacに比べて高すぎなんだよ
で俺は出張ついでになんとか現地で手に入れました
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08/03/22 22:13:47 FTZm9Q+s0
>>355
これビジネスも込みでしょ。ｱﾎﾟｰ健闘してるんじゃないか?
11%も成長してるし。
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