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『太陽誘電』専用スレ その20スピンドル - 暇つぶし2ch367:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/23 20:39:16 xdErrSzp
>>357
今じゃどっちも大差ないほどの微妙な品質だから、好きな方買っとけ。

368:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/23 21:32:56 HxzWIH9V
相性いいドライブでオススメなのある?
オプティの7200S買おうと思ってたけど
スレ読む限りパイオニアのが相性いいっぽいね。

369:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/23 22:46:11 dBtLxjLg
アナログ用の8倍速メディアって、そろそろ生産が終わりそうかい?

370:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/23 23:06:01 w1XpQy1x
>>358
>>367
レスありがとうございます

371:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/24 14:01:03 KY4ogWbw
誘電のブルーレイ、評判悪いの?
DVDはまだ健在?

372:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/24 15:53:25 9mzeR0RA
>>368
誘電だったらどこのドライブでも綺麗に焼けるから心配すんな
計測とかしないんだったらπで良いんじゃない?

373:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/25 21:00:21 cG978f4t
>372
計測というものをしたごとがないので
1から解説してくれたらやってみようかと。

374:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/25 23:16:33 59Z8PvQf
>>371
誘電のBD-RはLTHしかないから、使ってるヒトあんまりいないんじゃない?

375:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/25 23:32:13 703BkmBo
受身でしか学習する気の無い人には計測は無理だからやめとけ

376:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/26 02:50:37 xDsJQz8g
ヨドバシカメラで16倍速50枚スピンドル買ったけど2倍速でしか書き込めないよ

377:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/26 08:41:47 44N1k267
しらんがな

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380:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/26 18:15:24 rRYqgGMx
>>376
ドライブは対応してんのか?

381:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/26 20:36:40 xDsJQz8g
最大20倍速書込みのドライブと最大4倍速のドライブ
どっちも2倍速書込みしか出来ない
それ以上でやるとエラー出てアボン
質が低下してるのか

382:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/27 00:19:05 MQ0XhlTh
20倍速と書いてあっても誘電16倍(TYG03)のストラテジ持ってなきゃTYG03には正規の速度で書けない。
最大4倍速のドライブは確実にTYG03のストラテジは持ってないだろうから諦めるとして
20倍速のドライブは最近の奴だろうからTYG03のストラテジ持ってるはず。それで2倍速しか出ないということは
焼きソフトが古くて対応できてないとかじゃないのか?

383:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/27 00:31:46 lINJvFX0
来週返品するわ

384:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/27 00:37:15 cfAx4QLK
最大4倍速ドライブは同じ製品でB's Recorder GOLD BASIC7を使ってずっと4倍速で焼けてた
B'sは書き込める最大速度を勝手に調べてくれるみたいなんだけど、今回買ったのは2倍速までとしか認識してくれない
20倍速ドライブは1週間前に買ったやつでソフトはバンドルのcyberlinkのpower2go
12倍速、8倍速とテスト書込みしてもエラーの連続で2倍速でやっとちゃんと焼ける
20倍速ドライブ買ったのは4倍速ドライブが寿命なのかと思ったからなんだけどね
他のR買って検証しないと結論出ないっぽい
ハァ・・・


385:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/27 02:18:53 Cb9QOpbV
PIO病?

386:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/27 13:09:03 r5POk0pv
>>385
あっ、俺、半年くらい前にそれにかかった。
どうやって治したんだっけな。
デバイスを一度削除したような…。

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391:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/27 13:36:12 DDlze2TY
「PIO病」でググれ。
対処方法を紹介してくれてるサイトに当たるよ。

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417:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/27 16:38:13 6h0vZqVC
さてそろそろか

418:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/27 21:11:21 q+6uCMgK
そうだねえ。コピペスレと野次馬スレまではやったけど、
もういいかと思ったのと力つきてやめちゃったんだけど、
他にやってくださった方がいたみたいで、お手数おかけしました。

日本製がいいし小さいメーカー応援っていうことで誘電を買ってきた。
今の所自分で使っている範疇では安定して焼けているので使っています。
メーカーさんもがんがれ

419:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/28 01:16:45 mGUQe3I6
同じく、報告してくれた人おつ!

420:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/28 01:33:09 7hoEhXVc
2chの運営はもっと荒らし報告の様式を簡略化すべき

421:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/28 03:43:36 9UHhWLQA
>>420
簡略化すると何でもかんでも報告してくるアフォが沸くから無理。
あの様式はバカ避けの意味もあるし、どれだけその荒らしを何とかしたいという意志があるかを
測るテストの意味もある。
本当に荒らしに困っているなら面倒でも煩雑な手順を理解しようとする熱意は出るでしょ。
それが有るかどうかを見るための「ふるい」だよ。

422:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/28 16:16:02 OZlxroYO
太陽誘電メディアを取り扱ってるスタートラボのページ見てきたけど
トリプルガードなんてやってたんだ・・・
URLリンク(startlab.co.jp)
製品的には一部みたいだけど。
URLリンク(startlab.co.jp)

この前ノーマルのやつを100枚ほどかっちまったよ・・・
知っていればそっちにしたのに。

423:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/28 17:00:38 zBQ30ubi
「TYG02、6倍焼きが俺の流儀」みたいな奴が多いんだけど。
8倍よりいい根拠なんて本当にあるの?

424:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/28 17:25:19 9RAZy6BT
>>423
CLV

425:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/28 21:24:07 yrTIAQtT
教えて君の癖に生意気
2倍で焼いとけ

426:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/28 21:35:06 mGUQe3I6
ゲッツ!

427:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/28 21:42:39 zBQ30ubi
>>425
6倍であと10年焼いてろ。クズ野郎!

428:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/28 22:05:41 epYxkTSo
誘電8倍DVD-Rって終わってたんだな。あ、きちんとしたThat'sパッケージ品ね。
実は中身はOPTOとかCMCでID偽装かと思うぐらい焼き品質が...
π、Optiarc、雷豚、便Qで全滅した。


429:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/28 22:14:56 TxIvYOCw
8倍で焼けばいいよ。

430:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/29 03:35:48 /3YL5qiv
>>422
大したもんじゃないから普通ので十分だと思うよ

431:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/29 10:26:49 kvUzZIpz
>>428
755試せ

432:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/29 18:00:43 Xb5TGGyk
>>421
古い考えだな

433:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/29 19:02:01 3bOY8qtj
TYG03の品質が糞すぎる
焼けやしねえ・・・

434:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/29 19:22:34 8SFPyMRf
それはドライブが悪いと思うけど

435:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/29 19:27:31 /9kuKT3P
Optiarkってやたら安いんだけど、評判はどう?
最近のパイオニアはいい話を聞かないもので。

436:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/29 20:52:47 3bOY8qtj
少なくとも俺の20x焼き可能を謳うパイオニア製ドライブはTYG03を焼けん

437:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/30 00:22:38 wVVKL2ME
日本製で焼けないはないだろ

438:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/07/30 20:01:01 FlINE958
ドライブの型番もなし、焼きソフトの名前もなしじゃ、どう考えても捏造

439:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/01 17:38:10 +UDzPPKT
おっπで誘電が焼けないわけがないわw

440:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/02 10:14:09 LzJhMWx5
2倍でしか焼けないよ

441:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/02 13:35:16 X0UsENNe
やかましいわぼけ

442:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/02 14:22:25 +HeOVXbO
最初から2倍しか選べないとかいうのは、その人間のスキルの問題でメディアのせいじゃない。
第一、ドライブは焼く前にメディアの品質状態は見ない。メディアIDだけ見てストラテジに登録されてる
倍速をユーザーに提示し選択させる。
メディアの品質に問題が有る場合の挙動は、高速で焼いてる途中で強制的に焼き速度が落とされる。

443:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/02 18:42:43 iVp72jQF
最第倍メ

444:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/03 19:42:14 rDpA4bIs
TYG02の品質戻ってない?今日買った奴が単にあたりだっただけかな?

445:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/03 21:13:48 gE1U3lvj
問題なのは03だろ

446:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/03 21:28:14 qmuvoLye
使わなければどうということはない。

447:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/03 21:37:10 vNkWbCRt
でもほかにまともな品質のディスクがないからなあ

448:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/04 11:24:54 qzG9bDNo
しかも次世代ディスクは記録品質最悪ときたもんだ

449:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/04 18:40:52 6lcss84c
>444
どこで買ったかkwsk
本当なら買うんだが。

最近の品質低下のせいで、前は焼きっぱなしだったけど今じゃ
焼いちゃ計測しちゃの繰り返しで疲れる。

03は眼中にない

450:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/05 11:04:12 QIeRX6IB
03はホント話にならんな
下手すると怪しいメーカーの50枚980円のRにも劣る

451:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/05 12:03:47 6Br9pQ8X
それは焼いた直後の話っしょ
保存考えるとありえねーから

452:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/05 12:12:40 O5sPufaP
03で…保存…だとぅ?
重要な…データを…選りに選って…03に…
……。

453:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/05 18:40:30 sPPfCGt9
重要なデータの場合複数のバックアップ取るだろw

454:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/05 21:34:45 2E6jNEeU
DVD-Rだけに保存するのは勇気いるなw

455:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/05 22:17:34 PWcO7m7n
TYG02なら問題ないと思っていたが?

456:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/05 22:30:34 O5sPufaP
うん問題ない。
全然おっけー。

01なら尚良し。

457:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/06 14:47:05 SIxq6k6b

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458:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/07 13:43:10 j5bN7Kv3
8倍で焼いてもだめなのか?>TYG03

459:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/07 19:27:07 Dd4GXHgs
やいてみりゃわかる

460:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/08 20:32:48 b5Xdvlo7
>>458
03に限らず、最近の誘電は品質がバラツキすぎる
一つのスピンドルに神もあれば糞もあったり・・・

461:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/08 21:45:46 yBXQ17O4
そんなに焼きミスって起こる?
TYG02を500枚焼いてるが、焼きミス起こしたの2枚だけ

一枚はリング状の傷でかなり前、
もう一枚は重いソフトが起動しちゃって、バッファが間に合わなくなって・・・

一般に知られたブランドのメディアなら焼きミスなんて滅多に起こらないでしょ?
ブラザーのメディアが10枚全滅したことあったけど

462:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/09 10:28:26 J9BdI8wf
だからTYG02には何の問題も無いっつってんだろ
03だよ03
読めるか?03だよ

463:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/09 11:58:45 9PjEKJuc
03は去年半年使ってたけど焼きミスなかったよ、120枚ぐらい

464:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/09 12:48:53 NXw9yQxG
焼き品質と、その後の耐久性はどうなのよ?w
それが重要でしょうがw

465:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/09 13:33:37 Om+7SlH2
>>464
焼き品質は特に問題ないだろ
耐久性はわかんないから、取りあえずおまいが耐久性がないってデータ出してくれよw

466:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/09 15:37:13 hWSkmXqD
東京03

467:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/09 16:10:25 WPP9lB37
耐光性は落ちてる。

468:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/09 22:57:57 bPdmo7+T
最近視力が落ちてきた

469:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/10 10:28:39 /mQKMLGG
おれも
毎日16時間50センチ先のモニタ見る生活してたら
3メートル先のテレビのテロップ読めなくなってきた

470:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/10 10:57:49 s26ZG0xk
じゃあ50cm先にテレビを置いて、
3メートル先にモニターを置けばいいお!

471:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/10 12:04:17 /mQKMLGG
あ、昨日ソフマップで買ったTDKのR調べたらTYG02だった
2000円で良い買い物したお( ^ω^)

472:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/10 12:22:05 1WuTeEPS
>>471
しばらくセブンイレブン受け取りの1699円誘電OEMビクター祭してたのに
2000円も出してプッ

473:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/10 17:29:44 IuGuqj46
54 名前:[名無し]さん(bin+cue).rar[sage] 投稿日:2008/08/10(日) 17:19:59 ID:cujzh2yx0
[写真集][IV] Administrator(20080810-145806)のアルバム.zip 134,114,677 427b0eb573b97c0e83d686de183c5cc48eab651a
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474:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/10 18:14:21 2HIiaX37
>>472
運賃300円と考えれば、まあOKにしてもいいかも

475:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/10 19:21:00 R7njtZos
>>460
同意!!
俺がこないだ買った20枚のスピンドル
8枚くらい焼けなかった
よしんば焼けたにしても再生不良だったりして

476:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/10 20:11:46 ZjuXfbky
50枚ほど焼いてみて、失敗なしだし、ちゃんと読める。今の所は・・・・

477:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/11 01:38:56 //lEmoEu
工業製品だから希に不良はあるだろうけど、8/50の割合で失敗するなら
それは自分の環境を疑うべきだろう

478:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 04:37:28 PrSJU6qs
>>475
連続焼きしてないか?最低でも5枚くらいにして、30分くらいしてから連続して
焼くんだお

479:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 12:05:56 PIoYDubX
OEM品のTDKパッケは終息なのか。こりゃますます需要が細ってるねぇ。

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482:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 16:42:55 ZEVhIdCs
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483:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 16:43:38 DO/XG7jx
最近はドライブのほうの品質劣化もあるからなー

484:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 16:44:23 ZEVhIdCs
2008/07/07(月) 13:43:47 ID:OjV3MtiG
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485:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 17:06:35 HGvYK4yx
2008/07/07(月) 13:43:47 ID:OjV3MtiG
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2008/06/25(水) 13:23:00 ID:hh/tLn6V
:2008/06/25(水) 13:18:18 ID:hh/tLn6V
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486:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 17:12:09 HGvYK4yx
2008/07/07(月) 13:43:47 ID:OjV3MtiG
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487:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 17:13:14 HGvYK4yx
2008/07/07(月) 13:43:47 ID:OjV3MtiG
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2008/06/25(水) 13:23:00 ID:hh/tLn6V
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488:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 17:14:20 HGvYK4yx
2008/07/07(月) 13:43:47 ID:OjV3MtiG
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489:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 17:15:02 HGvYK4yx
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2008/06/25(水) 13:23:00 ID:hh/tLn6V
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490:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 17:17:07 ZEVhIdCs
2008/07/07(月) 13:43:47 ID:OjV3MtiG
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491:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 17:18:16 ZEVhIdCs
2008/07/07(月) 13:43:47 ID:OjV3MtiG
:2008/07/05(土) 00:52:05 ID:sY2vTbpg
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2008/06/25(水) 13:23:00 ID:hh/tLn6V
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492:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 18:02:30 pn6A8HHK
>>479
どういう意味?

493:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/12 22:02:51 ZFvbv+UK
DVD-Rにセラコ全く意味なし

494:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/13 08:35:10 a6CZiJT8
なんでやねん

495:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/13 16:11:15 q7Lq5Zyv
確かに意味無し

496:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/13 17:23:42 +FeSI2Ju
DVD-RとCD-Rの構造の違い考えれば当然だな。
CD-Rのセラコは記録層を守る盾としての機能性をもっていたけど
レーベル面側にもポリカ層があり記録層の保護をする必要のないDVD-Rにおいて
セラミックコートを施すことの無意味さ。


497:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/13 18:08:36 tuMwk+GX
プリンタブルが嫌い
それだけで十分

498:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/13 18:10:15 q7Lq5Zyv
まあ、プリンタブルよりはマシかもしれんが

499:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/13 18:35:21 y1htW7fy
誘電はプリンのほうがハズレが少ないのがナァ

500:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/13 18:50:34 uG2aV8Ug
火傷サバイバー=枝鯖イバー

501:名無しさん◎書き込み中
08/08/13 19:24:33 LuRLp0mn
K'sオリジナルDVD-Rx16 60スピン1661円


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