22/01/02 23:40:48.46 .net
幸い筑波の野良鯖の大半はデフォルトホスト名の
vpn + 数字9桁 .opengw.net
だから、このルールに引っかかるのは全部ブロックとかやれそうにみえるけど、
そう単純にはいかないか
132:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 23:43:58.17 .net
>>131
サーバーに記録されるのはIPアドレスだけだし逆引き(IPアドレス→リモートホスト名)してもocnとかdionとかISPのリモホしか出てこないから無理
133:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 00:07:23.59 .net
vpn + 数字9桁
を正引きして出てきたIPをまとめてブロックとか想像したんだけど、
9桁ってことは10億個だからちょっと非現実的だった
動的IPが多いから頻繁に更新しないといけないしね
134:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 00:08:49.47 .net
正月だから死ねはやめよう
135:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 00:10:27.97 .net
筑波のサイトのVPN鯖リストをクローラーで巡回してホスト名を取得、
その一覧（２万台分ぐらい？）を定期的に正引きして出てくるIPをブロック
とか
136:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 00:11:24.64 .net
公式と海外は除外できるから精々数千台分か
137:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 02:41:06.20 .net
>>135
その1行目を運営は既にやってるとか聞いたけど
渋ってるのはやっぱり応答が遅くなるって部分に理由が集約されてんのかなぁ
138:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 05:20:57.96 .net
嫌儲では安倍晋三なら安倍晋三
スクリプトも安倍晋三なら安倍晋三でなんの問題もない
139:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 08:40:12.52 .net
簡単なのは複数のハニーポットを立てて嵐の発信元を特定してやること。
140:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 10:58:13.66 .net
そう思って筑波鯖を山ほど立ててみたんだけど全然ヒットしないでやんの
まぁ、発信元って言っても当然二重VPNや串は噛ましてるだろうから個人の力じゃ特定出来る気はしないが
141:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 12:37:32.67 .net
筑波鯖を立てた人は発信者のIPや書き込み内容が分かったりするのか
怖いな
142:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 12:38:16.53 .net
>>141
発信者のIPはわかる
何を書き込んだのかがわかるかどうかはケースバイケース
143:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 12:39:01.16 .net
送信先が分かれば実質書き込み内容も分かりそうだけど
144:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 13:02:30.17 .net
接続先はわかるけど「送信」先がわかるかどうかは別
145:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 13:06:06.01 .net
5chは今はもう大概httpsだから書き込み内容は直接は見えません
先日のダウソ板のVPNスレへの攻撃は、
該当時間帯に5chの該当ドメイン(lavender.5ch.net)のIPへ一度に3回同じ通信をしているものをたまたま発見して、
その鯖のIPで書き込んだ時とIDが同一で時間帯も一致する書き込みを見つけたという流れ
送信元IPは恐らくプロキシ
ヒットしたのはその一回きり
146:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 13:20:03.10 8fF+WixL.net
長崎ケーブルの話>>109はなんだったん？
まさか生IPからの爆撃じゃないでしょ
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966:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 08:11:15.47 .net
開示が捗るねぇ
967:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 14:46:41.76 .net
嵐の利益になるから理由は書かないが
一部の人にとってこの手の嵐は大歓迎
実は俺らにも利益がある
968:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 16:10:46.98 .net
>>967
さっき嫌儲見たら例のスクリプトのワッチョイがｽｯﾌﾟだったから速攻でNGにした
ｽｯﾌﾟってたしかdocomo回線だよな？
筑波を使ってないのかそれとも別人による仕業なのか…
うーんよく分からんね
969:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 16:47:00.04 .net
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(sec2chd板:820番)
970:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 18:42:13.28 .net
世論操作用スクリプト作ってる説もある
世論操作って無知の一般人に偏った情報を与えて
彼らが無知ゆえの善意によって情報を拡散するという連鎖反応で完成するから
それをすべてスクリプトで代替しても違和感はない
971:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 19:02:42.36 .net
機械スクリプトを使って生体スクリプトを介護する実証実験
嫌儲板、ちーんのスレでスクリプトとササクッテロ（ヘアプア）がひたすら会話しまくる地獄絵図が完成
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(poverty板)
972:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 19:37:24.42 .net
関係者全員嫌われ者ってのがまたね…
973:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 20:06:07.96 PCHCXJ7o.net
「自由の演出」にもってこいなのが嵐
ただのデモンストレーション、とうの昔にディストピアだわ
974:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 20:10:35.01 .net
>>971
生体スクリプトで笑った
まぁ確かにあいつはそういう存在だけどさ
975:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 21:04:22.00 .net
DOCOMOを回線規制すればいいのでは？
実際に楽天規制はされてるし
VPN使ってるこという意見もあるがワッチョイがスップということはDOCOMOなんだろ？
976:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 21:53:34.18 .net
DOCOMO回線だとしてどうやってIDをコロコロ変えるんだろ
977:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 22:11:48.61 .net
>>976
どうやっても何もiPhoneなら飛行機飛ばせば簡単に変わるでしょ
978:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/05 00:16:01.47 .net
あそこの住人は素で頭おかしいからスクリプトが進化すればするほど見分けやすくなるジレンマ
979:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/05 06:54:49.76 NRHBUo2k.net
テザリングしつつパソコンからオンオフコマンドを送れば3秒くらいでIPは変えられるから
POSTしてIP変えてを繰り返せばそれなりの速さで埋められる