22/01/01 14:03:12.84 .net
VPNに関することなら何でもありのスレです。
どのVPNを使っていいかわからないという人は、筑波大学が開発に関わっている信頼できる無料のSoftEther VPNを使いましょう。
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.vpngate.net)
VPNが何たるかを十分理解したうえで、お金を払ってまでVPNを使いたい人は、下記サイトを参考に自分で選びましょう。
URLﾘﾝｸ(ja.vpnmentor.com)
【ノーログ→SoftEther二重VPNのやり方】
1.通常のOSでノーログVPNを設定、仮想OSにSoftEtherを入れて、仮想環境で書き込みやダウンロードをする方法
2.通常のOSでSoftEtherを設定、ルータにノーログVPNを設定して、通常通りの作業をする方法
仮想環境はVMWareやVirtualBoxなどのソフトを使う
ルータは仕様にVPN対応と書いてある物を買う(例：ASUSのRT-AC59U、RT-AC68U)、もしくはラズパイをルータにする
サイト側はSoftEtherのサーバからアクセスしたように見え、SoftEtherのサーバ側はノーログVPNからアクセスしたように見える
【略称】
SoftEther→筑波 Nord→N Express→E SurfShark→鮫 など
前スレ
【初心者から】VPN総合4【上級者まで】 (実質6)
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(network板)
2:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:04:42.63 .net
二重VPN参考図
URLﾘﾝｸ(z.zz.fo)
3:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:05:28.26 .net
戦犯
>461 [名無し]さん(bin+cue).rar sage ▼ 2021/12/09(木) 22:40:23.83 ID:UQ05xlRs [1回目]
>筑波のVPNクライアントはオープンソースなんだよ
>その気になればこういう機能だって追加できんだよ
>URLﾘﾝｸ(z.zz.fo)
4:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:07:50.92 .net
34 anonymous@fusianasan sage ▼ 2022/01/01(土) 10:04:02.60 ID:??? [0回目]
すいません質問なんですが、
vpn対応のルーターにvpn設定して、pc側でもVPN接続にした場合2重ガードになるんでしょうか？
5:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:08:12.66 .net
>>4
なります
6:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:08:36.96 .net
27 [名無し]さん(bin+cue).rar sage ▼ 2022/01/01(土) 10:24:15.34 ID:d6re9wMO [1回目]
スレ違いレベルの低次元な質問ですみません
Winのコマンドプロンプトからopenvpn-guiを使って特定の設定で起動しようとすると「自動起動用の設定が見つかりません」とエラーが出て起動しません
同じ設定でアイコンを右クリックから接続すれば繋がるのですがなにかおかしいのでしょうか
「"C:\Program Files\OpenVPN\bin\openvpn-gui.exe" --command connect yourconfigfile.ovpn」
またこちらの方法でコマンドプロンプトからVPNに接続すると「Initialization Sequence Completed」と出てきて接続された様なのですがブラウザを開いてもIPが変わっていません
「"C:\Program Files\OpenVPN\bin\openvpn.exe" yourconfigfile.ovpn」
右クリックから接続したときのようにVPN経由にするにはどうすれば良いのでしょうか
7:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:10:36.15 .net
38 anonymous@fusianasan sage ▼ 2022/01/01(土) 13:15:25.93 ID:??? [0回目]
>>27
openvpn-gui.exe --command connect yourconfigfile.ovpn
このコマンドは試した事がないので良く分からない
openvpn.exe yourconfigfile.ovpn
試してほしいこと
・「openvpn.exe --config yourconfigfile.ovpn」ならどうか
・管理者権限で実行したらどうか
確認したいこと
・接続時、仮想NICにIPはきちんと付与されてるか、ゲートウェイまでPINGは飛ぶか
・接続時、デフォルトルートはVPNのゲートウェイを向いているか（route printコマンド等で確認)
8:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:11:08.96 .net
192 anonymous@fusianasan sage ▼ 2022/01/01(土) 13:30:43.90 ID:??? [0回目]
>>38
有り難うございます
「openvpn.exe yourconfigfile.ovpn」
こちらを管理者権限で実行したらブラウザのIPも設定通りVPNを通した物となりました
管理者権限で「openvpn-gui.exe」の方を試したときに自動起動エラーが発生したので上記の方法を試すこと無く他の解決策を探していたようです
クリスマス後から悩んでいたことがこんな基本的なミスだったとは・・
本当に有り難うございました
9:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:12:39.70 .net
解決したようでなにより
openvpn-gui.exeを使う場合は
"C:\Program Files\OpenVPN\bin\openvpn-gui.exe" --config_dir <yourconfigfile.ovpnが入っているフォルダのパス> --connect yourconfigfile.ovpn
とかで行ける筈
10:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:20.73 .net
>>374
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11:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:20.73 .net
>>564
ゅ妖全用牲
12:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:20.96 .net
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13:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:25.30 .net
>>519
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14:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:25.50 .net
>>126
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15:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:25.91 .net
>>927
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16:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:30.48 .net
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17:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:30.48 .net
>>311
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18:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:30.82 .net
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19:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:35.35 .net
>>880
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20:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:35.35 .net
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21:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:35.79 .net
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22:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:40.26 .net
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23:anonymous@fusianasan
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24:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:40.90 .net
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25:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:45.57 .net
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26:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:45.57 .net
>>634
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27:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:45.93 .net
>>267
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28:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:50.32 .net
>>188
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29:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:50.42 .net
>>687
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30:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:50.90 .net
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31:anonymous@fusianasan
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32:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:55.51 .net
>>983
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33:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:17:55.84 .net
>>817
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22/01/01 14:18:00.37 .net
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35:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:00.37 .net
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36:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:00.86 .net
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37:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:05.34 .net
>>14
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38:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:05.34 .net
>>430
吹層距晶帆布議伸
39:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:05.80 .net
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22/01/01 14:18:10.26 .net
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22/01/01 14:18:10.26 .net
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42:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:10.71 .net
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22/01/01 14:18:14.96 .net
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44:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:15.19 .net
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45:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:15.68 .net
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46:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:20.16 .net
び寺雅通は氷癒咲名甚込和稿偽快寸ぜ尼鋭恐ぇ
47:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:20.28 .net
>>311
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48:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:20.65 .net
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49:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:24.97 .net
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50:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:25.10 .net
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51:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:25.58 .net
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52:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:29.88 .net
>>209
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53:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:30.00 .net
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54:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:30.50 .net
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55:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:34.94 .net
>>312
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22/01/01 14:18:34.94 .net
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57:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:35.44 .net
>>718
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58:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:40.01 .net
>>968
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59:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:40.01 .net
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60:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:40.36 .net
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61:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:44.81 .net
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62:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:44.81 .net
>>993
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63:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:45.23 .net
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64:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:49.57 .net
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65:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:49.68 .net
>>210
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66:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:50.19 .net
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67:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:54.72 .net
>>905
歳孝仰刺濁気場惜馬
68:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:54.72 .net
>>657
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69:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:55.18 .net
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22/01/01 14:18:59.67 .net
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71:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:18:59.67 .net
>>143
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72:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:00.17 .net
>>175
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73:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:04.71 .net
>>966
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74:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:04.71 .net
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75:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:05.17 .net
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76:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:09.63 .net
>>145
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77:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:09.63 .net
>>336
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78:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:10.13 .net
>>148
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79:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:14.76 .net
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81:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:15.11 .net
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82:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:19.56 .net
>>131
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83:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:19.56 .net
>>34
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84:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:20.03 .net
>>214
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85:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:24.32 .net
>>728
着詣孔売王貪民森奨軸陽孤祈
86:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:24.49 .net
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87:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:25.00 .net
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88:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:29.60 .net
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89:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:29.66 .net
>>931
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90:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:29.95 .net
>>784
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91:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:34.21 .net
催結冷残跡嗅脇畏預衰頓右沸蔽始是拳惜米分社丘権希協濁拡筒六漫肯覆年偉僧畿
92:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:34.40 .net
>>426
営構岐奮面飯銘非沿怨結渡輝化忍咲鼻怒成文若飾休
93:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:34.90 .net
肥銘酢見場鎮鶏騰弧准少遮技練配段ぎあ康遵湖握括値代勾臨小兵団雰勲健面晶財霜
94:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:39.29 .net
斗総仕廃禅越測札引被霧坑二刺黙宙貢残堆優凹宜紙膨
95:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:39.56 .net
尋席凸た同摂
96:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:40.07 .net
錮止乳匠契化肖蛍江居句汗独院勅慎僧穂疎丈上肢敏撲柵均潮俗阪虞葉渉元丙
97:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:44.56 .net
>>761
累吟ね胴層仰亀錯桃膨約億幼損間顔網めび較賢障潜
98:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:44.56 .net
曖薦臭生わ逃師薦っ調声誉桑洋ご弄奉営出冶曲漏
99:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:45.13 .net
采複点還祈犯毀玄充っ制諮央代勢泳比薄助恥雰唱決
100:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:49.54 .net
蛮訳弄角弦虐徳士中演叙灰行鉱凍毛著二み爆孔を気尚え始
101:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:49.65 .net
柳将肉胞兆羊薦悼奔五木預菌十め逝堪諮臓棒因朗少眉庶宿
102:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:50.17 .net
脅掌妃頂治ん度較お俺少阪舟拍唆衰放塊登針働股医求談富交畳悪名欧
103:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:54.80 .net
壌し弾虎詩米刈鍋鑑件願尽機編畑睡泣抵隆癒朕襲撤創品柔葛
104:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:54.80 .net
>>288
把堅魂勉寛漁汰后度頓褒多恵懇醒厚絡術避盆宴貫直頃稚陥循腰陶陣雇乙光敷怒毎符
105:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:19:55.37 .net
徐衝晩版那販盟向撲粛盗流押薪塊憾往耗汚陳論ぐ加輝開譜矢物届京沃碁邦果丁栓福慰厘
106:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 14:23:12.38 .net
保守サンクス
でも保守しすぎ
107:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 16:17:47.59 .net
マジレスするとこの板保守必要ないから
108:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 17:24:12.47 .net
それは知らなかった
平和な板だ
109:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 19:58:45.41 .net
お坊ちゃまは長崎ケーブルテレビの利用者なんだね。
筑波は透過型proxyで変なスクリプト突っこむボランティア居るから火傷して乗っ取られんようにキヲツケロよ。
110:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 19:59:50.10 .net
きみは騒ぎすぎたので各所に履歴残り過ぎよ
111:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/01 21:31:21.06 .net
>>109
筑波は実際に自分で鯖立てて色々やってみると
どれぐらいエゲつい事が出来るかよく分かって勉強になるんだよね
112:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 00:04:16.39 .net
何で荒らされてんの？
113:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 00:12:44.96 .net
嫌儲板を荒らすための予行演習みたい
114:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 11:40:22.63 .net
嵐はつくば使ってないだろ
使って荒らしてるならホンモノのアホだよ
115:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 13:52:17.96 .net
ダウソ板のIDで確認したけど間違いなく筑波だよ
116:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 15:45:15.14 .net
本物のアホ確定ｗｗ
117:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 19:48:51.77 .net
嫌儲で嵐の分析スレ立ってるけど、分析スレには嵐がわかない
情報錯綜したほうが正体隠せて都合いいからね
本人も撹乱するための情報を書いてるだろう
そのために他板の無関係なスレも荒らしてる
たとえば福袋スレが荒らされた
鬱袋購入者はお前のことを絶対に許さんからな
118:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 20:10:07.87 .net
つくば使ってスクリプトで嫌儲荒らすって意味あんのかな
119:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 20:36:52.29 .net
嫌儲を荒らす事が目的で
その目的に筑波を悪用する手法が合致してるだけ
120:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 21:09:58.82 .net
こっちとかﾀﾞｳｿを荒らしたのは？
121:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 21:11:58.21 .net
嫌儲のほうでスレ読みたいという要望あったが嫌儲書けんかったのでここに貼っておく
福袋スレを荒らしてるから通販系スクリプト使う転売屋なのは間違いない
そいつが荒らしスクリプトを作ったか買ったかして改良して誰かに高額転売しようとしてるのでは
【福袋】2022年ヨドバシvsビックカメラ★13【鬱袋】
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(kaden板)
181から193
253から445（二種類）
541
122:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 21:24:20.91 .net
>>120
嫌儲に爆撃開始する前から爆撃してたからおそらく動作チェックも兼ねて爆撃試験してたのかもな
123:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 21:37:53.94 .net
スクリプト荒らしは二人いるという話もあるね
124:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 21:39:03.12 .net
（少なくとも片方は）筑波は使っていないという見解の意見もある
457 番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 794d-br9T) ▼ New! 2022/01/02(日) 21:08:56.05 ID:IIXX6EgD0 [9回目]
どうみてもスクリプトは筑波のVPN使ってないし、日本語も不自由だし(実績解除かよwww)
とんでもないガイジもいるもんだわ
481 番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW c20d-Avv5) ▼ New! 2022/01/02(日) 21:24:59.58 ID:BAGpmiL50 [15回目]
>>457
俺もつく場ではないと思う
理由としては単にワッチョイがスップでdocomoな為
485 番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です ▼ New! 2022/01/02(日) 21:26:37.04 [0回目]
>>481
筑波で拾ったにしてはしょっぱい回線だわな
UAもそんなに変わってないから単に浪人か
125:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 21:40:10.73 .net
情報錯綜してきたからこのスレは荒らされないな
個人的には宇宙からの謎電波でたまたま出来たAIが日本人の言葉を学習してる最中にスクリプトみたいな動作になってると推測してる
確率的にはtotoBIGバンよりもよく起こる現象だぞ
126:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 21:40:15.95 .net
通販系乗っ取りスクリプトで小銭稼ぐせこいのも居るね
127:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 21:58:03.16 .net
【悲報】スクリプトさん、ついに一線を超える [945572446]
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(poverty板)
ごく一部、詳しそうな方がおるね
128:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 22:06:24.53 .net
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(sec2chd板:607番),611
607 Ikh ◆tiandrU0uo (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ e999-I0v9) sage 2022/01/02(日) 20:43:54.27 ID:SbqYPipc0
嫌儲も荒らしが湧きまくって偉い惨状だが、筑波大の鯖から攻撃されてるという情報をみかけたね。
611 え～すぅ ★ sage 2022/01/02(日) 21:35:19.17 ID:CAP_USER9
筑波かぁ
嫌儲だけ期間限定でつくばチェック入れるかなぁ
応答が遅いので入れたくないんですよね
129:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 23:22:18.63 .net
>>128
＞応答が遅いので入れたくないんですよね
どっかで聞いたけどコツコツIP取得してリストアップしたのを使うのかな
隠れサーバ含めても2000～3000ぐらいあるだろうからいちいちチェックしたら応答遅くなるってのも分かる気がする
130:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 23:37:58.04 .net
このスレの総力を結集して書き込めるIP全部集めて運営に教えればいい
向こうが焦土作戦で荒らしてるなら目には目をでこちらも全世界のIPを運営に焼いてもらうしかない
131:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 23:40:48.46 .net
幸い筑波の野良鯖の大半はデフォルトホスト名の
vpn + 数字9桁 .opengw.net
だから、このルールに引っかかるのは全部ブロックとかやれそうにみえるけど、
そう単純にはいかないか
132:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/02 23:43:58.17 .net
>>131
サーバーに記録されるのはIPアドレスだけだし逆引き(IPアドレス→リモートホスト名)してもocnとかdionとかISPのリモホしか出てこないから無理
133:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 00:07:23.59 .net
vpn + 数字9桁
を正引きして出てきたIPをまとめてブロックとか想像したんだけど、
9桁ってことは10億個だからちょっと非現実的だった
動的IPが多いから頻繁に更新しないといけないしね
134:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 00:08:49.47 .net
正月だから死ねはやめよう
135:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 00:10:27.97 .net
筑波のサイトのVPN鯖リストをクローラーで巡回してホスト名を取得、
その一覧（２万台分ぐらい？）を定期的に正引きして出てくるIPをブロック
とか
136:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 00:11:24.64 .net
公式と海外は除外できるから精々数千台分か
137:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 02:41:06.20 .net
>>135
その1行目を運営は既にやってるとか聞いたけど
渋ってるのはやっぱり応答が遅くなるって部分に理由が集約されてんのかなぁ
138:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 05:20:57.96 .net
嫌儲では安倍晋三なら安倍晋三
スクリプトも安倍晋三なら安倍晋三でなんの問題もない
139:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 08:40:12.52 .net
簡単なのは複数のハニーポットを立てて嵐の発信元を特定してやること。
140:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 10:58:13.66 .net
そう思って筑波鯖を山ほど立ててみたんだけど全然ヒットしないでやんの
まぁ、発信元って言っても当然二重VPNや串は噛ましてるだろうから個人の力じゃ特定出来る気はしないが
141:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 12:37:32.67 .net
筑波鯖を立てた人は発信者のIPや書き込み内容が分かったりするのか
怖いな
142:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 12:38:16.53 .net
>>141
発信者のIPはわかる
何を書き込んだのかがわかるかどうかはケースバイケース
143:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 12:39:01.16 .net
送信先が分かれば実質書き込み内容も分かりそうだけど
144:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 13:02:30.17 .net
接続先はわかるけど「送信」先がわかるかどうかは別
145:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 13:06:06.01 .net
5chは今はもう大概httpsだから書き込み内容は直接は見えません
先日のダウソ板のVPNスレへの攻撃は、
該当時間帯に5chの該当ドメイン(lavender.5ch.net)のIPへ一度に3回同じ通信をしているものをたまたま発見して、
その鯖のIPで書き込んだ時とIDが同一で時間帯も一致する書き込みを見つけたという流れ
送信元IPは恐らくプロキシ
ヒットしたのはその一回きり
146:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/03 13:20:03.10 8fF+WixL.net
長崎ケーブルの話>>109はなんだったん？
まさか生IPからの爆撃じゃないでしょ
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開示が捗るねぇ
967:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 14:46:41.76 .net
嵐の利益になるから理由は書かないが
一部の人にとってこの手の嵐は大歓迎
実は俺らにも利益がある
968:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 16:10:46.98 .net
>>967
さっき嫌儲見たら例のスクリプトのワッチョイがｽｯﾌﾟだったから速攻でNGにした
ｽｯﾌﾟってたしかdocomo回線だよな？
筑波を使ってないのかそれとも別人による仕業なのか…
うーんよく分からんね
969:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 16:47:00.04 .net
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(sec2chd板:820番)
970:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 18:42:13.28 .net
世論操作用スクリプト作ってる説もある
世論操作って無知の一般人に偏った情報を与えて
彼らが無知ゆえの善意によって情報を拡散するという連鎖反応で完成するから
それをすべてスクリプトで代替しても違和感はない
971:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 19:02:42.36 .net
機械スクリプトを使って生体スクリプトを介護する実証実験
嫌儲板、ちーんのスレでスクリプトとササクッテロ（ヘアプア）がひたすら会話しまくる地獄絵図が完成
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(poverty板)
972:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 19:37:24.42 .net
関係者全員嫌われ者ってのがまたね…
973:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 20:06:07.96 PCHCXJ7o.net
「自由の演出」にもってこいなのが嵐
ただのデモンストレーション、とうの昔にディストピアだわ
974:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 20:10:35.01 .net
>>971
生体スクリプトで笑った
まぁ確かにあいつはそういう存在だけどさ
975:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 21:04:22.00 .net
DOCOMOを回線規制すればいいのでは？
実際に楽天規制はされてるし
VPN使ってるこという意見もあるがワッチョイがスップということはDOCOMOなんだろ？
976:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 21:53:34.18 .net
DOCOMO回線だとしてどうやってIDをコロコロ変えるんだろ
977:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/04 22:11:48.61 .net
>>976
どうやっても何もiPhoneなら飛行機飛ばせば簡単に変わるでしょ
978:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/05 00:16:01.47 .net
あそこの住人は素で頭おかしいからスクリプトが進化すればするほど見分けやすくなるジレンマ
979:anonymous@fusianasan
22/01/05 06:54:49.76 NRHBUo2k.net
テザリングしつつパソコンからオンオフコマンドを送れば3秒くらいでIPは変えられるから
POSTしてIP変えてを繰り返せばそれなりの速さで埋められる