21/05/06 21:45:26.16 F12XxQqS.net
CentOSが開発方針を変更ーー「CentOS 8」は2021年終了、今後は「CentOS Stream」に注力
URLﾘﾝｸ(mag.osdn.jp)
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21/05/06 22:32:32.08 i9s99Stk.net
もう終わりにせんと
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21/05/06 23:06:00.51 UAzvQ7Lj.net
高エネルギー物理学の研究業界は CERN/FNAL の方針の決定待ち
本当は2021年Q1の間（３月末まで）にアナウンスが出るはずだけど、遅れている
URLﾘﾝｸ(linux.web.cern.ch)
How is CERN going to adapt to this?¶
CERN acknowledges the recent decision to shift focus from CentOS Linux to CentOS Stream,
and the sudden change of the end of life of the CentOS 8 release. This may entail significant
consequences for the worldwide particle physics community. We are currently investigating
together with Fermilab the best path forward. We will keep you informed about any
developments in this area during Q1 2021.
―
Joint Fermilab/CERN statement on recent CentOS Changes
URLﾘﾝｸ(listserv.fnal.gov)
CERN and Fermilab acknowledge the recent decision to shift focus from CentOS Linux to
CentOS Stream, and the sudden change of the end of life of the CentOS 8 release.
This may entail significant consequences for the worldwide particle physics community.
We are currently investigating together the best path forward. We will keep you
informed about any developments in this area during Q1 2021.
James Amundson, Fermilab Scientific Computing Division Head
Elizabeth Sexton-Kennedy, Fermilab Chief Information Officer
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21/05/06 23:07:42.93 UAzvQ7Lj.net
cernの最近の動向
Linux at CERN: current status and future (15 Mar 2021)
URLﾘﾝｸ(indico.cern.ch)
にプレゼンがあるね。 pdf は
URLﾘﾝｸ(indico.cern.ch)
このプレゼンに対する批判が下にあります。この批判はもっともだと思う。
URLﾘﾝｸ(listserv.fnal.gov)
CentOS streamへの移行で良ければ最初から問題になっていないわけで。
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21/05/06 23:09:05.29 UAzvQ7Lj.net
- there is no explanation how CentOS Stream is a technically acceptable replacement
for CentOS Linux. There is many questions here, none answered.
全くその通りで、これまでRHELのクローン（安定版）で普通に業務にも使えていたCentOSが
開発用不安定版のバクだらけの、CentOS Streamに置き換えらられるはずがない！ 下にも同様のレポ。
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 10:57:11 +0000
URLﾘﾝｸ(listserv.fnal.gov)
When the Centos 8 news came out, I tried out Centos Stream against our configuration. Kickstart and Puppet config
needed very little change and I was able to bring up a VM in our lab config quite easily.
I have two observations:
1) Updates are sparse, none for ages then a large batch of version updates.
2) Stuff can be broken and remain so for a long while. We use Podman rootless. That was broken in the version of Stream
I initially installed and remained broken for a few weeks until the next chunk of updates. I looked up the issue in the RHEL
tracker and it had been fixed quickly in Fedora etc. but this did not make it to Stream on the same timescale.
My view is that Stream is exactly what RHEL say it is, a development distribution to which 3rd parties can contribute to
RHEL development and from which 3rd parties can base their own distributions. It's not for end users, or small
organisations that need timely security updates and other fixes and can't produce same themselves.
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21/05/06 23:11:59.27 UAzvQ7Lj.net
CentOS 8 の後継候補 (RHEL clone)
rikenには Springdale や aluma はもうあるね
URLﾘﾝｸ(ftp.riken.jp)
URLﾘﾝｸ(ftp.riken.jp)
URLﾘﾝｸ(ftp.riken.jp)
URLﾘﾝｸ(ftp.riken.jp)
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21/05/07 00:41:13.14 mXM67Q6M.net
Redhatがボストン大みたいにCERNにもサブスク提供してくれたら、CERNはStream使わなくても済みますか?
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21/05/07 10:19:52.01 sfKFS8mT.net
CentOS8に限って言えばもう半年ぐらいしかないぞ
準備考えたら、もうそろそろ決めてないと去年の二の舞に
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21/05/07 11:57:59.07 E9BhETC4.net
クリマイのペネロープはCentOS使っていますか
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21/05/07 14:20:24.62 woYxBfse.net
>>1
「CentOS は Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) から同社の商標を削除して再コンパイルした RHEL Clone」
これは直した方がよかろうね
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21/05/07 18:55:28.79 X81RJF1M.net
URLﾘﾝｸ(linux.web.cern.ch)
Update on CentOS Linux strategy (05.05.2021)
CERN and Fermilab have been evaluating a number of options in view of the sudden change of end of life of CentOS Linux 8 in December 2020 and the move to Stream. A migration path for servers already running CentOS Linux 8 is being provided to CentOS Stream 8 for those needing this release and latest features. Continued support for existing workloads on Scientific Linux 7 and CERN CentOS 7 will be maintained as previously planned. We are evaluating a number of scenarios for future Linux distributions such as community editions or academic licence options over the next 12 months as the shorter Stream lifecycle is not compatible with a number of use cases for the scientific program of the worldwide particle physics community.
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21/05/08 10:00:12.47 dtNT5SdA.net
>>10
むしろ計画的に6から8に移行したおかげで混乱に巻き込まれてるので
急ぐと損をするのかなと思ってしまう
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21/05/08 10:09:36.47 H/fIfjzU.net
>>14
去年に発表があったのはCentOS6のサポート期間終了後なので、その理屈だとサポート終わってからも使い続けることになるぞ
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21/05/09 18:56:13.62 J2/sOSMY.net
セントくん8にして
今年年末にrockyに行くぜ。
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21/05/10 20:03:19.98 hX41HDxB.net
>>16
まだRockyのミラーは全部で 12台しかないね
Public active mirrors （We have currently 12 active mirrors ）
URLﾘﾝｸ(mirrors.rockylinux.org)
Almaのミラーは100台を超えた
URLﾘﾝｸ(mirrors.almalinux.org)