03/03/28 02:30
>>62
BAの後ろ向きのCってのは抵抗がありますな
64:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/03/28 02:55
>>63
そもそもなぜフツーに前向き配置にしないのかと小一時間（ｒｙ
65:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/03/28 03:16
>>64
月刊エアラインに，ジグザグ配置しないとフルフラットで椅子一つが長くなった
分を取り返せない（採算に合わない）からとか
66:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/03/28 03:21
俺死んでも，後ろ向きなんて嫌です
幾らCAはジャンプシートに後ろ向きに座ってるって云われても嫌
その点でもロンドンはVSかNHで逝ってます
67:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/03/28 11:13
後ろ向きで離陸とか(((( ；ﾟДﾟ)))ｶﾞｸｶﾞｸﾌﾞﾙﾌﾞﾙ
Cクラスにアップグレードされたくない航空会社ですな。
やっぱロンドンはVSかNHだな俺も
68:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/03/28 11:19
>>67
昔の新幹線って普通車だと，椅子が回転しないのあったじゃないですか？
あれもダメだったっす＞漏れ
とにかく進行方向と反対に景色が流れていくと体中がかゆくなる（ｗ
69:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/06 17:44
≪≪欧州系エアライン総合スレッド≫≫
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(space板)l50
フィンエアってどうですか？
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(space板)l50
【イカレタ】ヴァージンアトランティック【機内】
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(space板)l50
【LHR】ロンドンヒースロー空港【EGLL】
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(space板)l50
エールフランス
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(space板)
SAS スカンジナビア航空
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(space板)
70:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/09 18:53
ヴァージン航空の４月と５月の便に何本かキャンセルされるフライト
があるみたい。ここを使って海外に行く人は要注意ね。日本語サイト
にはまだでてないけど、英語サイトの方のお知らせの所にあったから
チェック。
71:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/09 22:46
>>７０
わたくし、１４日発の「ロンドン６日間フリープラン（往復直行便利用！）」
ってなツアーに申し込んでいて、往復ともここの便利用に
なっているので、チェックしてみたら、
バ ッ チ リ 欠 航 に な っ て い る 罠 （ｗ
こういう場合って、他社便に振り替えでつかね？
それとも日程を変更させられる？
乗り継ぎ便に変更させられるのだけは勘弁してﾎｽｨ・・・
72:70
03/04/11 17:54
>>71さん 昨日再チェックしたら成田便の欠航は15日と30日に変更
(もしくは訂正)されてまつた。71さんも再確認してみて下さい～。
私も14日にロンドンに行くので同じ飛行機でつね。
73:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/11 17:58
英ヴァージンがコンコルド買い取りを表明
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.nikkei.co.jp)
74:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/11 19:28
>>73
たぶんパイロット、航空機関士込みで買い取るんだろうな。
何人引き抜くんだろう？
それでも１ポンドか？
75:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/11 22:18
あのｵｻｰﾝあいかわらずｳﾏｰいな
76:71
03/04/11 23:30
>>72
そうみたいでつね。
旅行会社の中の人に余計な
確認作業をさせてしまいますた。
70さんも14日のVS901便に乗るんでつか～。
A340-600は初めてなので楽しみでつが、
巡航速度が遅いために、40分遅く出るNH201便に
抜かれてしまうのがちょっと癪でつ。
77:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/11 23:42
>>76
ばーか あふぉ
78:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/15 23:20
アメリカーロンドン１＄チケット買おうとしたけど、Webでぜんぜん表示されない。
速攻で売り切れたのかな？
79:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/15 23:25
>>78
プッ！
おまい、何人の予約入れたんだ？
まさか１人じゃないよな！
80:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/15 23:39
>>79
プッ！
Web上がデフォルトで2名しか受付ねえよ。
81:山崎渉
03/04/17 09:08
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82:ＮＡＳＡしさん
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120:山崎渉
03/04/20 04:32
∧＿∧
（ ＾＾ ）＜ ぬるぽ（＾＾）
121:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/20 19:30
ＢＡがバグダッド便再開へ １３年ぶり
【ロンドン２０日共同】英航空大手ブリティッシュ・エアウェイズ（ＢＡ）はロンドン－バグダッド間の定期航空路線を１０月から週３便運航する計画だ。２０日付の英紙サンデー・タイムズが報じた。
ＢＡは１９９０年のイラクのクウェート侵攻後にバグダッド便を停止しており、１３年ぶりの再開となる。
英国ではヴァージンアトランティック航空やミッドランド航空もバグダッド路線への参入を狙っている。（共同通信）
122:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/21 13:03
>>58
だったらなんでアッパー同乗者のＹ客も原則的にラウンジ使えるの＞ＶＳ
123:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/26 22:31
六本木ヒルズage
ただいまリチャードぶらん損 テレ東に。
124:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/04/26 22:58
>>123
また日本来てんの？ あの会社の売却先交渉かな？
125:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/14 22:05
NHとの提携でFlyngClubの使える範囲が広がるな。
NHの国内線でもマイル加算が可能になればなおいい。
できればBAと同じ15,000マイルで全日空の国内線の特典があればいいな。
126:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/14 23:17
>>125
え!?
NHと提携したの?
127:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/14 23:37
>>126
6月からです。
128:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/15 11:37
VSとﾆｯﾍﾟﾘかぁ、何かｼｯｸﾘこないな（ ﾟдﾟ）y-~~
129:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/15 21:22
ところで、ＢＡからコンコルド買うとか言ってたけど、どうなったの？
130:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/15 21:44
なんでみんなそんなにバクダッド線運行したいんだろ？
そんなに需要があるのか？
131:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/15 23:14
AMCに貯めたマイルで同伴者用特典航空券get・・・
なんてことはできないのでしょうねぇ。
132:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/20 13:38
6月からFlyingClubでNH便の特典航空券をもらうことができるよ。
15,000マイル・・・日本国内、韓国
20,000マイル・・・中国、香港
35,000マイル・・・バンコク、シンガポール、ホーチミンシティ
40,000マイル・・・ホノルル
50,000マイル・・・アメリカ本土
60,000マイル・・・ロンドン、パリ、フランクフルト
全て直行便のみの利用です。
133:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/20 18:05
>>122
ＰＮＲが違うから厳密には、同乗者じゃない罠。
勝手にのさばっているだけ。
134:山崎渉
03/05/21 22:07
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135:山崎渉
03/05/22 00:04
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136:山崎渉
03/05/28 15:04
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ﾋﾟｭ.ｰ ( ＾＾ ） ＜これからも僕を応援して下さいね（＾＾）。
＝〔~∪￣￣〕
＝ ◎―◎ 山崎渉
137:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/30 21:19
BAに買収されるという噂があるのだが
138:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/30 21:43
ブリティッシュ・カレドニアの例に限らず、
ＢＡは敵対的買収で、英国内のライバルを蹴散らしてきた前歴を持つ会社。
そろそろＶＳもウザい存在だろうか。
139:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/30 23:57
「そろそろ」どころか、もうずーーーーっと前からかと（ｗ
その前にＶＳがＢＭＩとの合併を検討していて、
それへの対抗措置としてＶＳの買収を画策し始めたってことらしいんだけど、
この件で詳しい人いない？
140:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 03:18
合併後もそのままスタアラ残留キボンヌ。
141:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 08:08
>>140
はぁ？
ヴァージンってスタアラだったか？
142:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 08:47
調べてみたけど、ＶＳ＆ＢＭＩの合併に対して、
ＢＡは相当に危機感を持っていることだけは確かみたい。
今週、財務担当重役も含めた緊急会議が行われたので、
資本調達の可能性を検討したようにみえる。
しかしこの会議が「ポーズ」の可能性は十分にある。
実際、ＢＡとＶＳ，ＢＭＩが合併しようとしても、
間違いなく英国政府や欧州委員会が不承認とするだろうから。
もっともＶＳとＢＭＩの提携は承認されると言う観測。
143:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 08:49
>>142
？？
とっくに昔にＶＳとＢＤ提携しているが
そんなことも知らずに欧州委員会と言ってるのか？
144:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 08:50
本音は、どうやってＶＳとＢＭＩの関係を壊すかにあると思う。
公正取引委員会への陳情や、敵対的買収とか、
実際にいろいろなオプションを検討しているようだす。
145:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 08:54
>>143
今回の話は提携じゃなくて合併でしたね。
ヴァージンはヴァージンでＢＡに対して逆買収をかけるぞとアナウンスするなど、
なかなか面白くなってきたようです。
146:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 08:56
>>144
教科書読んでるのか？？
根本原因は、ＬＨＲの発着枠。
大丈夫ですか？？
147:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 08:59
そんなオペレーショナルなことより、
ストラテジックなことのほうが
上位概念
148:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 09:03
>>147
一番、戦略上重要だがそんなことも解らずに航空業の解説するな。
おまえ、かなり痛い頭だな。
149:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 10:37
会社が存続することと、スロット枠の確保のどちらが重要か？
後者は前者の手段にすぎない
150:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 10:53
>>149
ＶＳは、会社を存続させるためにＢＤの枠を買い取るんだろう。
で、君は何を言いたいの？
ＢＡの話ならＢＡスレでやれば！！
151:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 10:55
ついでに、何も理解しとらんようだから、
ＢＡとＡＡのコードシェアが認められたんだよ。
そんなきっかけも知らずにＶＳが動いたと思ったのか？
152:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 12:19
ＶＳとＢＭＩの話は、単純なスロット枠の売買だけの話ではなくて、
構造的にＢＡとの競争関係を改善するための全社的な話でだろ。
競争力はスロット枠”だけ”で規定されるわけではあるまい。
ＢＡの敵対買収の話は、それを何とか食い止めたい意思の表れであって、
実際に実行可能な話しであるかについては、かなり疑わしいが。
ＢＡにすればＶＳとＢＭＩの関係を壊すだけでも実行効果があるように思うが。
153:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 13:36
>>152
へぇー、スロット枠の売買って誰が言ったの？
あなた被害妄想おおき過ぎよ。
154:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 14:09
ブランソンはVirginのルーツ、音楽レーベルをライバルのEMIに売っちまった人なわけだが
EMIの買収を企んでいたこともあった。
ヴァージンがEMI株を微妙に買い占めかけていた所で買収計画が表に出たけど、
否定も肯定もしないでEMIの株価を釣り上げて、買収断念＆EMI株売却で稼いだ。
その後EMIにヴァージンを売った。
BA逆買収すんぞｺﾞﾙｧ！発言しときながら、BAに会社売っちまいかねない。
ヴァージングループは航空だけじゃないんで、高く売れるものは売って
おっさんが次にやりたいことをやる資金にするんじゃない？
独立性を失われるのが嫌だからって、グループ株をロンドン市場に上場後、１年で上場廃止した過去もあるんだが
…航空に関しては、既にSQに49%握らせてる時点で「もう売っても（・∀・）ｲｲ!」って構えでしょう。
ORBISから寄付を求められたときに「航空業界は儲かっていないんだよ」って白状したのは
リチャード・ブランソン氏ですから。
155:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 15:09
>>153
あなたが >>146で
「根本原因は、ＬＨＲの発着枠。」
と書いているから、
「起こっている事象の全ては、ＬＨＲの発着枠で説明できる」と読めるわけ。
いいかげん、感情をまじえた突っかかったような書き方、止めてくれる？
156:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 15:14
いつもは閑古鳥の鳴いてるこのｽﾚだが
今日はやたら発言数が多いな
157:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/05/31 15:16
>>154
面白い見方ですね。確かにそうかもしれません。
ヴァージン・グループの財務は、以前から摩訶不思議なようで、ＦＴも何年かに一度、
「なぜヴァージンは潰れない？」的な特集を組んだりしています。
ダイエーと似た感じで、とにかく借入金が多いとも聞きます。確かに航空は売り時かもしれませんね。
158:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/06/01 01:18
BAはイギリス長距離航空市場を独占できるチャンス
ヴァージンは不採算の航空事業を高く売りつけられるチャンス
激しく利害が一致しているが…
このご時世、ヴァージングループにBAまたはbmi買収資金を新たに貸す金融機関はあるのか？
BAがVSかbmi買う為の資金なら調達も容易だろうけど。
159:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/06/01 02:09
いやいや約一匹「ヒステリック御釜な某コテハソ」が混じってるからだと思われ.....
160:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/06/01 07:53
いやいや約一匹「精神分裂マッチポンプな某ブタ」が混じってるからだと思われ.....
161:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/06/01 10:10
なかこーこんなところまで荒らしてるのか？
早く、身辺整理してオケよ。
留置所に入るんだから。
162:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/06/01 16:18
すかさず反応するのが面白いね。
163:105
03/06/10 10:13
ヴァージン欠航上げ
164:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/06/10 23:01
イギリス起点でチケット
買うと安いんですか？
165:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/06/10 23:05
面接で、処女ですか？って聴かれました。
はい、アナルだけは・・・」って答えました。
166:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/06/11 14:33
やっぱりBAのVS買収案はBA役員会で否決。
やっぱりVSのBA敵対買収は虚言だったね…
「BAが融通してくれないのならAFからコンコルドを借りる」とか言っていたのも
虚言となったわけで。
167:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/06/11 14:52
>>166
おいおい、ＶＳがＢＡを買収するという計画があったのか？？
168:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/06/18 13:45
>>167
ブランソンの狂言だけどな。
売られた喧嘩買っただけ。
169:S
03/06/21 22:05
あっしの友達が０２年１０月、ロンドンに行くのに乗ったＶＳ９０１便は
偶然にもＡ３４０－６００Ｒ就航１番機だった。勿論帰国の時も。
メチャ綺麗で、従来のＡ３４０よりも乗り心地が良かったらしい。
離着陸の姿は圧巻！！さすが全長７５ｍの機体！
170:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/06/21 23:05
そろそろ関空に乗り入れて欲しい。
もちろん関空深夜発で
171:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/01 03:24
ｳﾞｧｰｼﾞﾝって安全なんですか？
172:英国
03/07/01 17:14
夏に成田からエコノミーでＶＳを利用してロンドンに行くんですけど、ＶＳの機内
サービスやＣＡの対応・雰囲気などはどうですか？
日本人クルーがかなり乗務してるらしいですけど、そんなに沢山いるんですか？
機内食やシート幅など、詳しく知ってるか方がいたら教えてください。
173:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/01 18:11
深夜発で現地に着くのは何時？
174:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/01 20:13
>>157
ヴァージソレコードEMIに売ったのは「ＶＳ維持」のため。
だからＶＳは儲かってないし、火の車だろう。
毎年資金繰りに頭を悩ませているはず。ブラソンソ自身そう言ってるぞ。
175:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/01 20:43
>>172
エコノミーは３、４人いたかと＞クルー
自分の不摂生から機内で体調を崩してしまったんだけど
いろいろ気遣ってくれました。
後は機体が変わって私が乗った時とは違ってるかもしれないんで
他の方よろしく…
176:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/05 06:25
「１機２００円で買うたるぞ！」とケンカ売ってたＢＡコンコルド、
１機２億×５機で提示し直したって。
マジで買いたいようだな。
商談成立すれば楽しそうだが、ＢＡのプライドは１０億より高そうだ・・・
177:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/05 11:01
>>174
儲かってないコーラ・儲かってない携帯・意外に儲かってないレコード店・やっぱり儲かってないレーベル再参入
本当に不思議な会社、ヴァージングループ。
おっさん自身があんまり利益を考えてなく、トントンならＯＫみたいだけど
BAですら発注しないA380を複数導入できるほどの金の出所は、誰も知らない。。。
フレディ・レイカーと同じく既存破壊で成功してサーの称号貰ってるんだけど
気球世界１周は必ず失敗する男、リチャード・ブランソン。
178:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/05 13:40
>>170
AHOうざいです。
179:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/05 19:08
>気球世界１周は必ず失敗する男、リチャード・ブランソン。
ヴァージンアトランティックの行く末を示しているような…
180:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/06 15:38
月刊エアステージみたけど、あんなに若くてさわやかな日本人スチュワードが
機内に5～6人も乗ってるなら、絶対今度ロンドン行くときはVS使いたい！
181:_
03/07/06 15:41
URLﾘﾝｸ(homepage.mac.com)
182:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/08 14:55
>>180
ネカマ氏ね
183:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/08 19:54
>>179
まだやってるんだったっけ?
無着陸の世界一周は何度も失敗してる間に先越されてしまったけど。
184:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/14 17:21
イギリスのヴァージントレーンズ社ってこのグループ？
185:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/15 09:13
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.virgintrains.co.uk)
もちろんヴァージングループ。
「時速300kmの列車走らす！」と参入したが、もちろん狂言。
186:山崎 渉
03/07/15 12:32
__∧＿∧_
|（ ＾＾ ）| ＜寝るぽ（＾＾）
|＼⌒⌒⌒＼
＼ |⌒⌒⌒~| 山崎渉
~￣￣￣￣
187:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/15 14:10
>>180
知らない人が多そうだ。
英国人も男の比率が高いのかな？
188:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/15 22:23
どうしてブランソンのビジネスって日本じゃウケないんだろうね。
メガストアとシネマはおっさんの顔で商売してる訳じゃないし、
NRT線はBA、JL、NHの方に客が流れてるようで、ここだけ744入れてないね。JFK線には入れてるのに。
189:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/16 00:59
>>171
全損事故や死亡事故は無いはず
ヒースローで主脚のトラブルから胴体着陸したことがありましたな
その時脱出シュートを使っていたので怪我人ぐらいはいたかも
190:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/16 10:09
中古の747-200１機で始めた事業だけに
古い機材＝内装古い、機体危ない という概念を取り去ることも目的だった。
整備費は１ポンドも惜しまないとブランソンが明言してる。当たり前のことなんだが。
１回エンジントラブルで成田に引き返した際は、外資では珍しく
各局ニュースで取り上げられたぐらい。
安全性に定評があったのか、単にヴァージンが音楽で有名だっただけかは知らないか。
BAが747-400ある程度受領、777発注の際に
「ヴァージンは機材が古いので快適性に疑問、快適性は我が社が上」
と喧嘩売ったため、VSも747-400、A340発注、資金調達のためレーベル売却を電撃発表した過去有り。
191:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/16 12:36
>>188
マイレージが日系エアラインと提携していなかったからじゃないか？
（BAはJLと提携してるし）NHと提携始めるから、人気出るかも。
あとJL・NHはロンドンが夕方発だから、昼発のVSは現地に滞在できる
時間が短くなってしまうのも不利かなと。
192:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/16 17:02
>>188
７４４にしないのはそこまでの需要を求めていないため。
BAは既に７４４でダブルデイリー、NH、JLも相応の輸送力があるので
VSはA340程度の席数とベリーが埋まればそれで良しとしているらしい。
193:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/16 20:03
>>190
そういうポジティブな理由じゃないと思われ。
単に資金繰りがうまくいかないだけ。
YのPTV標準装備も湾岸戦争時の航空産業不況につけ込んでボーイングからゲットしたものだ。
資金繰りの借金を断られても、逆にPTVを無料で付けさせる条件つきで新機体導入が進むのは皮肉だと本人も言ってる。
194:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/16 20:06
>>188
特に日本で彼はカリスマ視されてる、との評判で本人もわかってる。
彼自身、従来の日本のビジネススタイル(内部留保を多する)を「理想のスタイル」としている。
アメリカ的な株価至上+配当至上主義は近視眼的で嫌いだと述べている。
195:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/17 01:14
>>191
まだ本国のホームページではパートナーとして名前挙げられてない…
確かBDとか、かつてFFP提携していたBAもそんな扱いだった気がする。
>>192
A380投入予定路線には成田も含まれてるけど（多分格好だけ）
今までのVS機材をただ大きくしただけのA380だったら、逆に客を逃がしそう。
BAの病院船・寝たきりビジネスクラスには対抗してくると思うけど。
>>193
A380購入資金の出所はどこでしょうね。
さすがに資金繰りの目処がつかぬまま発注した訳ではあるまい、と思いたい。
196:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/18 13:28
ヴァージンの新C出ましたね。全ての席が通路側に向いてるのが気になるけど。
今度大西洋線で乗ってきます。
197:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/18 14:04
>>195
>A380投入予定路線には成田も含まれてるけど（多分格好だけ）
そう、格好だけ。他社の動向を見てって感じだろうね。
NRT線の機材に関してはブランソン自身がインタビューで
A340程度で充分だとコメントしてた。
198:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/18 15:22
SQが見切りつけてVS株放出したら終わりだね。
多分BAが買うことになるだろうし。
独禁法対策でマイクロソフトとアップルみたいな関係になるだろうが。
199:a
03/07/18 19:21
:
200:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/25 02:04
HISで航空券を買ったんだけど
マイレージってつけらるの？
201:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/26 00:28
age
202:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/26 00:43
>>198
既に見切り付け始めたんじゃないのか？
ＪＦＫは、ＳＱは今までＶＳと同じターミナル１だったがタミ４に移動したぞ。
もち、ＬＨとも違うぞ。
203:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/28 16:04
JFKは意図的に合わせたものではないのでは？
VSの独立性は以前から保たれているわけだし。
204:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/07/28 17:04
>>203
そうなんですか？？
ＮＨは、３タミのＤＬから７タミへ移動しましたが何か？？
205:あぼーん
あぼーん
あぼーん
206:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/08/02 19:29
>>204
何もありませんが、何か？
207:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/08/03 02:53
整備に金を惜しまないって，前にBMIのハンガーにA340が入ってる写真が
載っていたけど，自前のハンガーない訳じゃないんでしょ？
208:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/08/05 03:30
A340-600 G-VFOXに"CONCORDE BA CAN'T KEEP IT UP!!!”との挑発的なタイトル！！
209:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/08/05 03:32
革命的なCクラスの導入。
シート自体は最近流行のベッドになるタイプ、座席として使用する時は表面が本革、ベッドになる時は表面がマットレスに変わると言うのがウリ。
この夏からA346とB744で導入を開始し2004年秋には全機材に導入を完了する計画。
このシートの導入により、座席は2-1-2の配列に変更、間隔もBA（79.5インチ）など23社のFクラスよりもさらに2インチ広いものへ。
また同社では、2004年6月末までにアメリカで格安航空会社を設立し、10～15機で国内線運航に参入する計画を発表。
210:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/08/05 03:42
シート替えたばかりじゃない
幾らなんでももうペイしなくなるぞ
211:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/08/06 13:58
>>209
80インチちょっとのアッパーなんて、確かに革新的かもw
212:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/08/07 05:08
2001年1月に同社便を利用して負傷した乗客と、このほど13000ポンドを支払う事で和解。
63歳女性客はロンドン→ロス線を利用した際隣の女性客が肘掛けを上げなければならないほど太りすぎていたため、肘掛けを使えないどころか逆に巨体に圧迫された。
同社は満席だった事もあり席を変えるなどの配慮を取らなかった、この被害者はロスでの休暇の大半を病院で過ごし、今も通院を続けるほどの重傷を受けた。
なか乙一氏ねよ
213:_
03/08/07 05:08
URLﾘﾝｸ(homepage.mac.com)
214:ブタ肛市ね
03/08/14 15:20
2002年度決算も黒字確保できたことを発表。
2002年度は、A340-600×4機導入の他、LHRに初めての自社ハンガー建設、ナイジェリアのポートハーコート、カリブ海のグレナダ、トリニダード・トバゴへの就航が。
今期はA340-600×3機、B747-400×1機の受領を予定している他、既存のアジア、アフリカ路線の増便、香港経由のシドニー線開設、カリブ海地域の乗り入れ先追加を計画。
さらにA340-600×3機、A380×6機の追加購入の検討、別の機体の購入計画があることも明らかに。
215:ブタ肛市ねまた肩書詐称かよ！
03/08/14 15:42
BAは、先月のLHRのカウンター職員のストで影響を受けた利用客に、同社の航空券購入に使える80ポンド分のクーポンを配布する。
これに対しVSは、このクーポンを自社の航空券購入でも受け付け、さらに20ポンドの値引きもサービスするとの対抗策を発表。（爆笑
216:山崎 渉
03/08/15 18:25
(⌒V⌒)
│ ＾ ＾ │＜これからも僕を応援して下さいね（＾＾）。
⊂| |つ
（＿）（＿） 山崎パン
217:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/08/17 23:58
ＶＳのフライトクラブの参加メリットはＡＮＡマイレージクラブに
比べてどうでしょうか？
秋にＶＳアッパークラスかNewStyleClubＡＮＡ使ってロンドンに
行く予定なんですが、どっちに参加してポイント加算したらいいか
迷っています。特典航空券への道のりが容易な方がいいのかな
と思っています。せいぜい年１～２回くらいの海外旅行、国内の
利用も修行というほど何十回も頻繁に動くのは無理。
もともとＶＳのほうは国内線ではカウントできないでしょうし・・・。
詳しい方、アドバイスお願いいたします。
218:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/08/23 18:22
ヴァージンブルー国際線部門の名称は、パシフィックブルーに固まった。
近く正式発表。
219:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/09/18 21:23
パシフィックブルー、何でヴァージンの名前捨てたんだか。
ヴァージン・ニュージーランドとか
ヴァージンブルー・ニュージーランドとか
ヴァージン・パシフィック
でもいいんじゃないの？
独禁法絡みなら
アンセット・ニュージーランドと
カンタス・ニュージーランドは過去に存在したわけだし。
220:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/09/18 22:57
A340-642 G-VGOA（製造番号371）を8/29に受領し"INDIAN PRINCESS AIR"の愛称を。
221:1
03/10/10 07:05
age
222:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/10/10 07:26
>>204
そのＪＦＫの７タミは提携が切れたＵＡとＢＡが未だに一緒だが。
223:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/10/10 07:57
>>222
ラウンジと搭乗口は別ですが何か？
では、手の切れたＢＡのラウンジをＮＨが使用しているのでしょうか？
確かにＲＣＣよりＢＡのクラブの方が立派だが！
224:NASAしさん
03/10/10 10:25
イギリスってエアバス嫌いなんでしょ？
なんでＶＳは無事に導入できているの？
225:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/10/10 15:09
エアバスはスペイン、ドイツ、フランス、イギリスの
企業が中心となって運営している組織ではなかったか？
226:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/10/10 16:13
>>217
その搭乗頻度だとどっちにしろ無料券獲得までにマイル期限切れ....ってのがオチ。（藁
年に1万-2万程度が3年。国内だとマイル自体が倍になるわけでもないし。
エコノミーの無料券がせいぜい？あきらめまひょ。
227:ＮＡＳＡしさん
03/10/10 16:43
>>224-225
ＶＳが導入してる機材って
ボーイング、エアバス両方とも
エンジンがロールスロイス製でしょ