07/07/28 10:43:55 c62IklOCO
さっきからEPSなる言葉が出てきてるが、EPSって何？
電動パワステ？
101:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/28 12:01:29 ZKmy7CKf0
>>100
検索したら電動パワステと出た
検索20個目
ないよりはあった方がいいのかもしれんが必要不可欠とはいえないような気がした
102:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/28 12:14:05 9N0uUpOZ0
>>90
アルファのパクリ車なんて眼中に無いよな
アクセラの内装なんて147のコピペだもん
まあ、俺のロドスタが最高だから毛頭気にしないけど
103:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/28 12:23:47 RmxAih6pO
あんたが大将！
104:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/28 17:17:20 NzvuqrW/0
156 ：名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう：2007/07/23(月) 22:25:08 ID:Bm55fwYj0
うちの亭主は>>139みたいな電車通勤のリーマンで車に関して全く興味がない人だけど、
自作PCヲタだから、秋葉原で買い物をするのに便利だからといってセダンじゃなくて
ワゴンを買えって五月蝿い位だけどなぁ。。。
余り頻度が高くないとはいえ、郊外のホームセンターや大型電気店などに買い物に行くと
ワゴンは本当に便利だし。
結局、金の有無と心のゆとりの有無なんじゃないのかな。。。
あとは持ち家かマンションアパート暮らしかとか。
自宅から少し離れた青空駐車場に駐めるのか、
3台くらい駐められるリッチな立地の自宅のガレージに駐めるのかでも全然違うし。
まぁ、流石のうちの旦那もケイマンとCクラスワゴンの2台を買ってと言ったら怒ったけどｗ
907 ：名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう：2007/07/23(月) 23:45:10 ID:Bm55fwYj0
>>905
一応、うちの旦那は室町時代から続く荘園領主の流れを汲む旧家のボンボンなんだけどねｗ
わざわざ東大出ても家業を継ぎたくないからと言うことで、好き好んでIT土方をしてますよｗ
105:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/28 17:18:05 NzvuqrW/0
512 ：名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう：2007/07/16(月) 16:56:40 ID:xtD3qVzM0
えっとねぇ、、、
年収も無論大事ですけど、それ以上に家柄なども大切なんですよ。エスタブリッシュメントの世界では。
おいらも3年前まで毒女をしてましたけど、おいらに釣り合いが取れる男の人がなかなかいなくてね。
仕事柄、経団連の中のおっちゃんなどにもうちの息子の嫁に来て欲しいとか言われたこともありましたけど、
そーいう人に限って叩き上げの人だったりするんですよねｗ
単に高収入ってだけでは無論NGで、学歴から何から色々と大変なんですよ。
容姿なんていうのは育ちの良さに付いてきますから、育ちの良い人を選べばそれだけで大抵大丈夫ですから。。。
106:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/28 19:29:12 laoOSF/k0
これはひどい
107:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/28 22:57:10 KUkvi7w60
ゴルフよりパサートとかヴェントとかが欲しい。
V５とかW8のエンジンなんてそう無いから。
108:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/28 23:33:55 wUjk0Nd1O
EPS→ESPの間違いでした。
横滑り防止装置です。
メーカーによって呼び方は違います。
109:名無しさん＠そうだ選挙に行こう
07/07/29 14:04:30 eZ2BGpWrO
仮想セレブの品評会か？
110:名無しさん＠そうだ選挙に行こう
07/07/29 18:19:51 PPF4a8d+0
セレブ願望の強い乞食ｗ
111:名無しさん＠そうだ選挙に行こう
07/07/29 19:52:54 OTQLbZ0k0
横滑り防止装置ってそれほど大事か？
112:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/30 00:34:51 apdzAdncO
横滑り防止装置が要る、要らないは、価値観の違いかな？
事故しなければABSもｴｱﾊﾞｯｸも必要ないと言う人もいれば、万が一の為に必要と言う人もいる。
それと同じ事。
ちなみに欧州車は、ほぼ標準装備、国産車は高級車のみ標準装備。
まさに価値観の違い。
113:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/30 09:53:49 cJ7bmVn4O
>>102
コピペの意味分かってない新参ハケーン
114:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/30 11:11:43 UVwJyOTu0
マツダはデミオでも標準装備だな
115:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/30 13:21:39 ZzoooOmf0
>>114
サイド・カーテンエアバッグはオプション。
ESPはオプションでも設定がない。
欧州仕様では装着可能なのになｗ
昨日のミンス大勝、妄想が妄想でしかないことがそのうち証明されるさ。
益々低所得民が増え→車が売れない→コストダウン→クルマがもっと面白くなくなる
の悪循環へｗ
さっそく、株式市場が大幅下落ですよ～～～ｗ
日本オワタヽ('ー`)ノ
見事なまでの特亜政策も・・・
ゴルフ脳と呼ばれてもいい、ツダオタと罵られてもいい、
特亜の下僕になるくらいなら、オレは死を選ぶ。
116:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/30 15:18:21 N5uKcN0vO
横滑り防止装置は保険会社によっては既に割引き項目に入ってきてますよ。
つまり保険会社も認めた安全装置ということです。
それとエアバックは事故が発生した時に作動するもの。
しかし横滑り防止装置はABS同様、その事故を未然に防ごうとするもの。
これは大きな違いですよね。
117:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/30 15:45:47 1+0l6PeAO
あればいい程度の装備じゃん
ないからだめということではない
118:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/30 17:15:35 81/QhIg40
俺、ゴルフ買おうと思うんだけどどのグレードがお勧め？
119:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/30 17:26:42 UVwJyOTu0
>>117
お前にはエアバッグもない軽バンがおすすめ
120:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/30 17:47:19 1+0l6PeAO
>>118
ゴルフみたいな駄車を買わないのがおすすめ
121:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/30 18:15:06 n6oJ+dLs0
>>115
じゃ今すぐ死ね
122:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/30 18:23:23 ruAiFmNQ0
アウディのＡ３を最近購入しまたが、オヤジ車なんですか・・・。
けっこうカッコいいと思ったんですけどね・・・。
123:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/30 20:05:08 sHknljJ/0
>>115
ゴルフ海苔が絶滅したら世界は平和になるよ
124:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/30 23:18:25 PY8Cr1St0
アクセラ海苔も居なくなればいいのに
125:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/31 11:09:21 Owyvx97o0
最新号のマガジンＸ「ざ・総括」では、トゥーランベタ褒めだったね。
「またしてもＶＷに満点を」と締めていたけど、その前はどの車種？
126:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/31 12:03:32 ecLSFGA8O
提灯記事ほど当てにならないものはなし
ハイオクくんやトルマリンのシールをベタ褒めの雑誌もあったしな
127:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/31 13:07:53 Owyvx97o0
あぁら！？車板の方々って、「ざ・総括！」推奨だと思ってたｗ
じゃぁ、この雑誌も「提灯雑誌」認定でｗ
128:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/31 21:07:35 zySfs7/Q0
ＶＷを褒める記事はすべて提灯記事ということで結論
129:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/31 21:31:29 gkosl9Jj0
車くらい好きなの乗ろうよ
他人が何に乗っててもいいじゃん
乗ってる車じゃその人の生活レベルまではわからないよ
ゴルフや3シリーズみたいに売れてる車は特にわからん
130:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/31 22:41:54 fm2dk+ms0
あの雑誌もマツダに関して提灯記事だよな
あんなベタ褒めあり得ない
131:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/07/31 23:50:10 Bevb8whw0
>>129
俺もそう思う。自分の金なんだし好きな車買えばそれでよし。
ここで俺の人生訓を下流貧民の皆様に捧げます。
好きな車買えないなら、頑張って稼げ。
稼げないなら諦めろ。
諦めても他人を嫉妬するな。
人様がどんな車買おうが、お前の人生に何の影響もなし。
他人の持ち物をどうこう書き込む時間あったら、自己啓発でも
してなさい。変なセミナーで自己啓発はやめましょう。
尻の毛まで引っこ抜かれます。
俺も、赤の他人のド貧民のためにこんな長い書き込みするなんて
まだ青いよ。運転免許も取れない年で。
132:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/01 02:03:20 lBw7bbpCO
自分で金稼いで車を買えるようになってからその台詞を吐こうな、坊や
133:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/01 09:51:55 Ft6qOzrA0
いやぁ～
気付いたら、すっかり夏だな～
134:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/01 12:16:19 u+fQ2ea00
>>118
ゴルフ IのGTIがお勧め。というかそれ以外はアウトだろ。
できれば初期型。
135:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/01 13:20:14 a9zIesUvO
夏名物のあれが湧く季節なんだな
将来のゴルフ脳候補
136:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/01 14:08:08 rxQnAjzGO
ゴルフⅠは、カブリオが良いね、後期型はゴルフⅡのEgなんだよね。
ＧＴｉならゴルフⅡがオススメだな。
ゴルフⅢのVR-6、高速ツアラ－向きだよ。国産には無い2BOX＋V6･2.7は中々ですよ。
でも、普通のEgのゴルフも良いんだよね～中低速のトルクの出方が。
137:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/01 15:48:51 n8rYL4A/0
パサートもいいぞ！
138:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/01 16:25:21 u+fQ2ea00
とりあえず自分より年下の車に乗っちゃダメだろ。
139:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/01 17:17:41 Ax3AcCay0
ＶＷはＲ３２以外クソだろ
140:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/01 18:47:31 avo1zOtZO
>>125
トゥーランはデビューした時から各誌、各サイトで絶賛されてた。
それに世界エンジン・オブ・ザ・イヤーのTSIにDSGの組み合わせ。
納得。
141:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/01 20:10:58 RJvlwKWk0
>>140
提灯記事に釣られてハイオクくんでも買ってください
142:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/01 20:51:13 iOuNyoVz0
>>139
ＧＴＩですら日本の道路事情ではフルに性能出せないのに。
Ｒ３２買ったお前はサーキット走行が趣味なんだろうな。
違ったら車雑誌見てオナる単なるスペックマニア
143:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/01 23:57:27 DbmYOBwt0
トゥアレグはがちでいい
144:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 00:17:47 Nl4zTmHg0
日本の道路事情でフルに性能出せる車ってどれ？
軽自動車でも140ぐらい出てしまうんだが
145:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 00:20:29 3zGELFkB0
レギュラーがハイオクになったぐらいで贅沢品扱いかｗ
貧しいやつの発想は違うな
146:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 01:06:57 aukwd8TQ0
輸入車の多い地域とそうじゃない地域で意見がわかれるみたい（他板情報）
例えば東京だと輸入車がうじゃうじゃ走っててVWは特別見栄にならないけど
輸入車の少ない地域だと「外車」という見栄になるみたいね
147:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 01:35:28 INMvYLZr0
>>144
ヒント：ゴルフに乗ってるオバハンは高速が怖い
148:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 07:08:41 gM17jfFh0
外車に乗るメリットを教えてくれないか。３台目
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(kankon板)
149:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 10:39:50 KV9TRcy00
ゴルフのババアは運転下手なのが多い
150:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 11:59:16 V+ZxTR4jO
>>142
フルに性能はひきだすのはマージンとるからしないけど、俺FDでカメラないとこなら8割ぐらいは性能ひきだせるぞ
日本の道路なら結構綺麗だしいかれた奴ならフルチューンGT-Rでも限界まで性能だせる
名古屋環状でもムルシエラゴがフルに性能ひきだして走ってたりするぞ
151:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 12:23:44 gM17jfFh0
>>150
どこの田舎の高速道路？
首都高じゃ絶対にムリ
152:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 12:31:26 8WYQ4foAO
首都高なんて書いてなくね？
アクアラインならフルに出せるだろ
300overも可能だし
なにより風なし カメラなし
153:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 13:24:45 gM17jfFh0
>>152
にーほーんーごーわーかーりーまーすーかー？
＞どこの田舎の高速道路？ が>>150へのレス
＞首都高じゃ絶対にムリ が独り言
154:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 13:51:48 pjwUEQsy0
アクセラに乗るキモヲタは運転が上手いと思ってる下手糞が多い
155:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 13:59:48 LM69nrkt0
どんな車でも性能の限界まで出せるだろ。
例えば0-100km/h加速なら関越を練馬で乗れば余裕。
最高速だけが性能では無い。
156:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 14:28:32 RgAy7+VjO
それがわからないのがゴルフ脳
157:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 15:04:12 8WYQ4foAO
所詮ゴルフ
158:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
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07/08/02 20:03:41 zhE0g1d70
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07/08/02 20:04:15 zhE0g1d70
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07/08/02 20:04:54 zhE0g1d70
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07/08/02 20:05:33 zhE0g1d70
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195:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 20:06:05 zhE0g1d70
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196:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 21:12:29 zhE0g1d70
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197:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 21:13:03 zhE0g1d70
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07/08/02 21:13:37 zhE0g1d70
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199:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 21:14:11 zhE0g1d70
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200:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 21:14:42 zhE0g1d70
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201:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 21:15:17 zhE0g1d70
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202:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 21:15:56 zhE0g1d70
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07/08/02 21:16:34 zhE0g1d70
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07/08/02 21:17:07 zhE0g1d70
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205:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 21:17:45 zhE0g1d70
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206:名無しさん＠そうだドライブへ行こう
07/08/02 21:21:46 gM17jfFh0
アク禁食らっちゃうぞボク
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07/08/03 01:31:25 EEK+Wk1X0
ゴルフ乗りのオバハンでしょ時間帯から考えて。
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07/08/03 07:15:42 ZQrt5/E10
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07/08/03 07:16:22 ZQrt5/E10
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07/08/03 07:17:01 ZQrt5/E10
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