15/12/15 06:31:15.35 qYtbE1O2!.net
"graphemes and phonemes"
If I didn't know what they are (and I do) I could simply search them on the internet. Are you a professor, teacher or so? If not then you have little base to criticize me on this.
I'm writing this all in vernacular English. I could go absurdly "scholarly" with this and use every overly long phrase, clause and word I possess but I won't because I shouldn't and I don't need to.
I'm not hiding anything.
Furthermore, don't insult your own audience, because that's not debate, that's just dumb.
I have not spoken against you in the past, am not doing now, and will continue to not do so in the future. This is because I respect you as an (anonymous) person and will give you your fair time to prove your points.
You should give the same respect to your opponent. At any time I could throw a hissy fit and refuse to talk with you and make a bunch of troll posts, but I'm not going to, because that would be dumb and I don't want to be dumb.
335:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
15/12/15 06:33:09.04 qYtbE1O2!.net
>>307
Now it's my turn to talk to you as a person. You can hold whatever opinion you want, so long as you can defend it in an educated way. But please man, don't be pretentious. Our posts are literally a click away
from some dude spamming a thread with pictures of futanari catgirls being reamed senseless by tentacle aliens. This is not exactly the place to try and format a doctorate. I don't know why you still seem to
think that I am somehow attacking you or your country. I am doing neither.
"Your attacks on the character count as making the language impractical are baseless. They may -add- to the time to learn the language, but if they wielded
a power over the language as much as you think they do, they would have been abandoned in favor of another way of writing thousands of years ago. "
You literally just admitted that it makes the language impractical. You just said it adds time to the learning of the language. That's a hindrance. Maybe it's a small one (it isn't) but it is still a hindrance.
We need as few hindrances as possible. And most (not all) "symbol" (logogram, morpheme, pictogram, ect ect) languages have been abandoned, modified, or adapted. The amount of people that use, as I stated before,
just the Latin script completely surpass the languages that use the former. Romaji exists for a reason. It makes things simple, or at the very least, more simple. If you think that having a massive amount of
Kanji somehow makes things easier, alright, can you prove it? But until you do so you can't honestly say that somehow memorizing some thousand plus Kanji in order to read a newspaper is easier than remembering the sounds of
26 characters, 30 in an edited alphabet.
336:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
15/12/15 06:33:34.44 qYtbE1O2!.net
>>307
About the only perks I see to Kanji are that you can read without knowing
the sounds, which is a gimmick at best, and the fact that you can't have people insist that "no really, 'c' makes three sounds!"
That's actually a bonus, but it doesn't matter really, because that's a quirk only found in English, not the languages that English stole from.
I also do not understand while you repeatedly criticize me and English's notoriously unreliable alphabet as if I somehow like that mess.
I am criticizing it too. We need a better system.
If you think that English needs a completely new alphabet before it could ever be practical, I could agree with you; but that's not very practical.
Remember, English doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be better, which I firmly think it is.
Are you arguing that Japanese is a better language? Why do you think this, if so?
Why do you think otherwise?
337:臭い米国人
15/12/16 00:16:57.28 9Bwm9yu5!.net
>>333-336
I'm going to reply to these posts as they're separated.
>>333
I understand what you mean about needing to describe something and substituting
the English word. But are you saying that Chinese is a bad language to use as a world
language because you as the individual don't have the ability to produce certain sounds?
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say for those last few sentences, if it's not that.
>>334
I'm sorry it comes off as a personal attack, and re-reading it I can easily see why it looks like that.
It's just from how I understood it, what you had stated earlier sounded to me like you didn't know the difference
between the two.
No, I'm not a scholar in Linguistics. The closest I have is my undergraduate essay in the history of Japan's
writing system, which is saying almost nothing. I simply study Linguistics as a hobby, and most of what I've read is
written in the "scholarly" way. So it's just a natural way for me to write. If we were talking about something else,
I would most likely write differently, like I do when I've held conversations in the other English talking thread.
338:臭い米国人
15/12/16 00:17:50.34 9Bwm9yu5!.net
>>335
If my writing is what's giving the sense of pretentiousness, I wrote about that in the previous response.
No, I did not say it was impractical. I said it adds time to learning it. With Japanese specifically, prior to widespread
adoption of kanji, and even with it for a while, people would use certain variations of kana depending on the word they wanted to say.
This is because of all of the homophones, and this is, in my opinion, what would happen again if kanji were to be abolished.
>>336
I'm fairly certain that most languages will have several ways to pronounce a letter, it's just English as it is today has
a lot more peculiarities with them compared to most. Even Japanese isn't 100% 1-to-1, look at 新聞 where ん shifts to an "M" sound.
Thank you for clarifying, because up until this point I had thought you were saying English was a
vastly superior language to others. So to me it felt like you were coming to this board to say
"Sure I'll help you with English, because your own is terrible and you should get away from it ASAP."
Lastly, no I don't think Japanese is a better language. I think that there will always be more than one language, and
honestly I feel that's for the best. This is because I'm a firm believer that language ties to culture, and they influence each other.
So although there will be world languages, like how English is right now, as long as people maintain their unique cultures,
there will be a lot of languages to learn.
339:臭い米国人
15/12/16 00:27:06.71 9Bwm9yu5!.net
>>324
Haha oh my, thanks for that.
It wasn't meant to cut off at "look up" instead it was supposed to say:
If you, or anyone else, wants a collection of phrases to practice pronunciation, look up "tongue twisters".
Also, クサベ is fine, I know what the name 臭い米国人 means.
I have to go for now, I'll listen to the rest of your recordings later.
340:777
15/12/16 12:01:27.12 b0mibE35.net
>>332
>You haven't proved that I don't, you're just insulting people.
I have no intention to insult you.
I'm just saying that you don't seem to have enough knowledge of the language to discuss the matter.
If I'm wrong, I'll apologize.
Would you tell me how much you know about it?
341:臭い米国人
16/01/02 02:19:12.98 +P9wZj5t!.net
Bumping this thread before it goes off the page. If anyone wants to have longer discussions, feel free to write here.
342:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/01/02 04:53:17.22 SwEiA1BW!.net
I'm not sure how I got here. But what do the Japanese think about twerking?
343:777
16/01/02 19:19:51.76 sd458BMz.net
See the following thread.
URLﾘﾝｸ(ell.stackexchange.com)
What do you think the answer is?
344:777
16/01/02 19:27:02.52 sd458BMz.net
>>342
I don't find a girl twerking attractive.
345:臭い米国人
16/01/02 23:41:21.76 +P9wZj5t!.net
>>343
I cannot see the video, but based on what the thread says, option three is my choice.
Like what Ben Kovitz said in his answer,
346:臭い米国人
16/01/02 23:42:23.28 +P9wZj5t!.net
It ate my reply...
>>343 I cannot see the video, but based on what the thread says, option three is my choice.
Like what Ben Kovitz said in his answer, "is" should match with "thing" not "oranges",
but since this is spoken instead of written, the actor probably forgot this and chose to agree with "oranges".
As a result, they said "are" instead of "is" in the video.
347:777
16/01/03 02:16:37.72 qOBCJc0u.net
>>346
You can watch the video here.
URLﾘﾝｸ(vimeo.com)
What do you think of Gary Botnovcan's answer?
Namely he says that the oranges is the subject.
348:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/01/03 09:49:55.58 vAIboMRt.net
Oops!! holiday is final until today of 3-Jan.
I'll have to go to work tomorrow.
I wonder why holiday always passes early.
Now I'm feeling heavy.
To begin with why this time of holiday are
very short like this!! there're only 5 days
between 30-Dec till 3-Jan. It's too short!!
349:臭い米国人
16/01/04 01:06:31.42 urJCEg7b!.net
>>347
Thank you for the link. After watching the scene a few times, I think
that Gary Botnovcan is correct. The accepted answers would be right,
and I agreed with them too, when given that sentence in isolation as text.
I think that those answers didn't actually watch the scene, or didn't watch it
carefully enough.
Gary, on the other hand did, and his explanation is very good as to why the
line was that way. It is intended to emphasize. So yes, the subject is
the oranges.
350:777
16/01/04 16:09:00.69 4z65eVCe.net
>>349
Thank you.
That is interesting.
I have accepted Gary Botnovcan's answer.
The question was posted about a year ago.
At that time, the video was not yet deleted.
I think Ben Kovitz probably saw it.
351:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/01/04 19:29:47.60 OVucEOMg.net
Hellow!! you japanese fecker's!! lol
and please don't tell me about my miss spelling!!
.Writting english is fucking difficult!!
becouse. i'm ディックレス！！（how to spell it?）
I have no japanese frends who speak english
and another Foreign language!!
fuck them!!
and.. how about you guys? (or geys?)
you have any friends speak english ? huu?
(i mean...only japanese)
352:外人
16/01/06 15:47:54.03 MjBh49Pj!.net
Hello everyone. Have a good day.
353:舐めたらあかん
16/01/06 18:25:27.39 u+5glIyd.net
Pussy is not for lick. Pussylickers.
354:外人
16/01/06 19:30:14.25 MjBh49Pj!.net
>>353
I like to give cunnilingus.
355:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/02/18 02:24:17.80 SIOuTZ/S.net
>>340
I... Don't exactly know how to answer this, I obviously can't give you a number out of ten.
And even if, for the sake of the argument, I knew nothing about it at all, how does this make what
I've said about english illegitimate?
>>341
What would you like to talk about?
356:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/02/18 02:40:25.32 MUIQi7X8.net
wass up,ma bro&sis?
this is my first writting.
i'm 19 years old. i'm learning english every day.
Cuz i wish go to america next year.
how much i need money(\)for trip to america for 3week?
if i did mistake in grammer in the text,can u tell me
where is.
gn
357:777
16/02/18 09:57:53.04 mI87aaBJ.net
>>355
Are you >>332?
358:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/02/18 11:30:09.01 lL+eTUyD.net
＞＞356
I am neither your brother nor your sister. Please do not presume.
359:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/02/18 11:51:28.74 MUIQi7X8.net
>>358
it's slang.lol
360:777
16/02/18 14:06:52.89 mI87aaBJ.net
>>358
日本語でも「お兄ちゃん」とか「お姉ちゃん」とか赤の他人に言うだろ。
361:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/02/18 23:53:06.93 8cEK1seZ.net
i see
362:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/02/24 12:26:20.11 CjQGBMrJ.net
i see
363:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/02/24 15:02:21.42 bvKcSMjq.net
>>354 Pussychat.
364:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/02/24 15:29:13.11 J1JeRwrP.net
How should I say 花粉症 in English ?
365:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/02/24 18:15:30.77 5icmGOoa.net
>>364
Pollen allergy
I have pollen allergy.
I am allergic to pollen
366:777
16/02/25 09:38:03.24 lKoRCdBy.net
>>364
Hey fever
ggrks
367:ティファニー
16/02/25 15:02:59.50 H/ekLpog.net
>>356
＞wass up,ma bro&sis?
＞this is my first (writing).
＞i'm 19 years old. i'm learning english every day.
＞Cuz i wish (to) go to (America) next year.
＞how much (do) i need for (a)trip to america for 3week(s)?
＞if (there are) mistakes in gramm(a)r in the text,can u tell me
＞(what they are?)
＞
＞gn
368:チルノ
16/02/26 21:25:40.02 qx2/Pefx.net
>>365
"I have pollen allergy"じゃなくて、"I have a pollen allergy"です。
母語は英語です。
369:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/02/27 10:01:22.38 W3I28nVv.net
>>365
>>368
Native speaker here. "I am allergic to pollen." is the best way to say it.
370:777
16/02/27 14:54:34.28 lK+iS9Hi.net
私は花粉症です。
I have hey fever.
I'm Japanese.
371:チルノ
16/02/28 08:41:02.23 dvtxpIet.net
>>369
I'm also a native speaker, and to me "I have a pollen allergy" also makes sense.
"I'm allergic to pollen" sounds good and perhaps better, but for some reason the thought of it never entered my head.
I think it's because I was just trying to correct the original post.
>>370
"Hey"じゃないです、"Hay"です。"I have hay fever."
372:チルノ
16/02/28 08:46:06.96 dvtxpIet.net
>>369
Cool, I didn't think there were many native speakers on here.
Do you know/are you learning Japanese, too?
What are your hobbies if you don't mind me asking?
373:777
16/02/28 08:47:33.18 r+K87cmD.net
>>371
Thanks for your correction.
I believe that "I have hay fever" is more natural than "I'm allergic to pollen" when you have actually have hay fever.
374:チルノ
16/02/28 08:52:00.75 dvtxpIet.net
>>373
Haha,
thinking of someone saying the words "I'm allergic to pollen" in a monotone voice.
You're right, "I have hay fever" is much more natural.
If it were a different context, say, where the topic is pollen, it would be the other way round.
375:777
16/02/28 12:47:54.09 mVqjc9/M.net
>when you have actually have hay fever.
Oops. when you actually have hay fever.
376:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/03/05 11:26:18.40 hCw6n0Qr.net
there are so many native english speaker hire?
sombody please tell me the detail?
377:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/03/14 19:15:42.38 d0pQIGZJ.net
I'm japanese.
378:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/03/17 18:15:04.88 fDhR16oO.net
スウェーデン人です。
379:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/03/19 22:37:50.58 HiKT5WIC.net
I'm japanese too
380:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/03/26 17:57:52.29 NMREeYIq.net
Please come and see my blog.
I would appreciate if you point out my English mistakes
Thank you.
URLﾘﾝｸ(aoichikyu333.blogspot.jp)
381:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/04/15 02:04:29.12 rrls+MmX.net
ｉｓ ｔｈｉｓ ｔｈｅ proper thread?
382:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/05/09 18:44:14.24 pEbEqUcT.net
hi.
I can't speak English well,OK?
383:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/07/04 22:58:59.44 bwTgpRlL0.net
Camfrog is available on all of your devices.
Stay in touch with friends wherever you are.
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.camfrog.com)
You want to talk about Camfrog on 2ch?
384:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/07/04 23:00:09.16 bwTgpRlL0.net
>>383
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(21oversea板)
Here we go!
385:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
16/12/28 15:34:18.70 2OJg4xZj0.net
I want to speak English.
386:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
17/07/27 13:03:48.00 YNPTp23R0.net
☆ 日本人の婚姻数と出生数を増やしましょう。そのためには、公的年金と
生活保護を段階的に廃止して、満18歳以上の日本人に、ベーシックインカムの
導入は必須です。月額約60000円位ならば、廃止すれば財源的には可能です。
ベーシックインカム、でぜひググってみてください。お願い致します。☆☆
387:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
17/08/17 11:35:33.28 PQg6jY9X0.net
watt
388:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
17/08/17 12:07:04.36 jlalrdL90.net
>>386
60000 yen is of no use
389:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
17/09/25 21:26:00.79 hAYnd4OB0.net
Will you listen to me?
A young mother cat came to my garden with her 4 little babys yesterday.
The kittens were playing pleasantly there, the mother was watching over them in peace.
She is a very beautiful cat and kittens are adorable. The scene was good like a picture!
Hours later when I was there, they were moving to the garden of the next house in which
an old cat phobia woman lives. I had a bad feeling seeing it as she is so strange and feared by neighbors
Soon after, I found that they had disappeared completely, couldn't hear them at all.
She might do ill to the cats. I can't sleep for worrying about them.
I have no association with her. I dont know what to do for them.
390:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
18/06/16 12:53:17.57 2ABpQmJ20.net
英語を誰でも簡単に上達できる方法は、「船山ゴロウの英会話誰でもマスターできるブログ」というブログで見られるらしいよ。ネットとか調べてもいいかもね。
OKKJN
391:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
18/11/21 16:36:23.24 RQqOneN1M.net
Let's get the chat on again!
392:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
18/11/30 16:34:31.44 UyrnlgBt0.net
shut up and make money as much as possible
393:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
19/01/23 13:40:20.12 wgCGNcs9H.net
>>98
For your purposes you should probably translate it as "non-japanese citizens" if the precise meaning is important
394:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
19/01/31 19:14:48.39 Wwgg9yE1d.net
up
395:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
19/01/31 22:45:33.18 Wwgg9yE1d.net
誰かかまちょ
I'm told "get out, this is native speaker
only" at chat thread.
396:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
19/02/01 00:15:48.03 NTAuX+GVd.net
( ^ω^ )
397:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
19/06/03 16:27:42.50 8aC6/RMrH.net
>>395
In which thread?
398:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
19/06/23 03:10:10.05 oK1woZGAM.net
>>395
Don't mind!
399:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
20/02/06 12:14:37.51 Z0gdk6jK0.net
can you explain the meaning of the phrase "tonight love is rationed across the nation"??
its a phrase of a song. I cant see the meaning...
400:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
20/02/06 22:06:06.84 bLViBTvT0.net
>>399
If you ask for explaining it in Japanese, its phrase means "トゥナイトラブは全米で配給されている".
The singer may express that American people know my song through the movie.
401:あぼーん
NG NG.net
あぼーん
402:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/03/26 02:24:53.92 SSPtC3A+a.net
Hello!
403:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/03/30 03:24:38.77 lfhN3wjba.net
Hi!
There.
404:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/03/30 03:27:27.47 lfhN3wjba.net
>>399
No idea.
405:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/03/30 06:04:26.49 TxfaUkUka.net
Why don't you come to the new chat in english?
Why new one?
Because 5ch will be closed someday in the near future.
URLﾘﾝｸ(discord.gg)
GET TOGETHER!!!
406:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/05/05 08:59:28.23 wnvr9DB2r0505.net
Like no one knows here except me.
407:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/05/09 21:55:28.84 yJ/ihiQWp.net
I’ll update this thread to take attention from all. Thank me :)
408:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/05/18 07:02:10.08 nzRRxxxYM.net
Viva Ukraine.
409:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/05/19 15:57:57.88 sO+tC7jBa.net
Don't hold
back to
talk!
410:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/05/19 16:29:42.54 QVIhE+ala.net
URLﾘﾝｸ(i.imgur.com)
411:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/05/30 14:09:07.19 cMhLN2Zqa.net
Hey!
Why don't you get the conversation started?
412:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/06/03 11:03:49.71 fG9MxARda.net
I want you to get chat started.
413:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/06/03 12:24:54.29 HsyFHT0X0.net
【体調不良】 広瀬アリス、渡辺裕之 【ワクチン】
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URLﾘﾝｸ(o.5ch.net)
414:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/06/04 08:32:10.65 kdvD9hX4a.net
>>413
No vaiccine related matter I guess.
415:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/07/05 07:04:49.52 14/pzIuB0.net
Is this thread dead?
416:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
22/08/05 20:18:26.05 VGsWy2BEa.net
>>415
I am alive.
Don't hold back to talk.
417:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
23/01/17 08:21:13.78 c2ofGkV1a.net
Get up.
418:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
23/03/27 23:50:00.61 RropOXP6a.net
Cross-Cultural Connections Japan and Taiwan
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(english板)
419:^_^
23/05/12 08:34:12.77 4wuGNSZKa.net
I wanna be rich.
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(english板)
420:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
23/06/12 01:58:12.18 DQKtSWora.net
No one here for a while.
421:名無しさん＠英語勉強中 (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 21f1-HM7Z)
23/08/07 23:51:13.25 Jn84MIdF0.net
Are there any other places on 5ch where international users are allowed to post?
422:名無しさん＠英語勉強中 (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 21f1-HM7Z)
23/08/07 23:56:20.40 Jn84MIdF0.net
How popular is Hololive in Japan?
URLﾘﾝｸ(i.imgur.com)
423:名無しさん＠英語勉強中 (ﾆｸｸｴW 1a1c-AUmz)
23/09/29 19:15:26.36 NWU2XelB0NIKU.net
(゜ロ゜)ギョェ
424:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
24/04/29 10:51:27.53 WmYp5SxJa.net
>>421
"chat in english" etc
425:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
24/04/29 10:51:57.73 WmYp5SxJa.net
>>422
Almost no one knows.
426:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
24/04/29 13:43:11.54 AEmRrxqE0NIKU.net
I'll chat with you in English.
427:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
24/04/29 14:03:57.80 6SXXyzhi0NIKU.net
How can I say "I'm human" in another way?
428:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
24/04/29 14:40:42.88 3Hdo237j0NIKU.net
I'm not a korean lol
429:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
24/04/29 14:48:47.28 6SXXyzhi0NIKU.net
Yeah Japanese are nice, checks out
430:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
24/04/30 01:45:32.52 odR3kTnI0.net
>>427
I hate robot.
431:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
24/06/21 13:46:24.40 as+40WE3a.net
Now we have 梅雨 which make me feel so groomy.