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   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴大震災がageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = - | |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」        |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!     |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >  | |                             |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧   |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
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171:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
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173:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/03 21:35:11.04 .net
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174:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/04 03:01:44.32 .net
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   /(リ   ⌒ ●● ⌒ ) 。 ゚ 。      ┃                ┃┃┃
   | 0|゚   ヾ゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。゚。 ゚.                        ┛
   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴大事故がageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = - | |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」        |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!     |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >  | |                             |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧   |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
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   /(リ   ⌒ ●● ⌒ ) 。 ゚ 。      ┃                ┃┃┃
   | 0|゚   ヾ゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。゚。 ゚.                        ┛
   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴ヤクザがageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = - | |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」        |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!     |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >  | |                             |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧   |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
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182:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/05 02:24:13.91 .net
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183:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/05 02:47:47.33 .net
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   | 0|゚   ヾ゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。゚。 ゚.                        ┛
   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴ヤクザがageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = -| |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」       . |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!  . . |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >.  | |                            |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧ .  |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
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15/08/05 02:56:52.54 .net
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185:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/05 10:24:15.08 .net
こういう馬鹿な茶番劇を計画して実行するのであれば:
1.何処をどう誤魔化せば、どの程度まで騙せるのか。
2.その結果としての効果や見返りは何か。
を前もってきちんと見積もり、そしてそのリスクの評価まできちんとしな
ければならない。ミーハーな一般大衆は巧みに宣伝をぶち上げれば騙せる
だろうが、でも海外の専門家はそうは行かない筈。
何れにしても国際権威英国のブランド雑誌や、そして理研そのものが国内
ではブランド価値を持つので、この儒教的権威主義に塗れた日本人を丸め
込むのはそう難しくはないだろう。(そもそも雑誌の国際権威を用いて論
文の付加価値を高めようという考え方は極めて醜い。)
でもこういう事柄はアチコチに目配りが出来る実力者でなければ到底出来
ないと考えるのが自然。そうすると「コレが出来たとすれば、ソレは誰な
のか?」という疑問は極めて自然。但し『証拠もなく誰かを糾弾する事が
出来ない』のは当然であるし、加えて『意図的である事とミステイクの区
別をする一般的な判定基準は存在しない』のもまた事実。更にこれは研究
者としてのモラルの問題ではあっても、でも刑事罰の対象として扱うのは
極めて困難であろう。
そもそもこの国では(もし何かの不都合が生じた場合に)「ミステイクを
意図的と考えて処罰の対象とする」という誤った考え方が横行している。
但しこの点に関しても:
1.能力が無い者であれば、それはミステイクと見做すべき。
2.有能な者であれば(ミステイクは回避出来たという意味で)意図的。
という考え方をするのが妥当。


186:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/06 00:05:15.45 .net
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187:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/06 00:18:12.62 .net
>>630
あくまでも一般論としてだが、こういう問題が生じた場合には:
★★★『基本的能力が高い者(達)の方が能力が低い者(達)よりも責任が重い。』★★★
と考えるべき。特に『当該論文を纏め直して投稿し、受理させた者』とし
ての責任者は、その重大な責任を負うと考えるのが妥当。ソレを「他人の
実験結果を鵜呑みにしたので詳細は知らなかった」と言い逃れるとすれば、
ソレは無責任かつ卑怯であり、糞父と同じ責任回避と見られて当然。
加えて理研の隠蔽体質も批判されるべき。そもそも『無能と知りつつ採用
してしまった』という問題の責任は理研にこそある。理研や笹井氏は世間
に対して媚を売ったり、或いは「安っぽい宣伝」をするべきではなくて、
『研究結果の質のみにて勝負する国際研究機関』であるべき。従ってその
品質に満たないチンピラ研究者は追放して『エリートだけの集団』に改造
するべき。理研は「国家を代表するエリート研究機関」でなければならな
いし、また世間のチンピラを相手にする場所でもない。
国会議事堂みたいな『馬鹿の集団』であってはならない。

> >>629
>
>そりゃあもちろん笹井さんにも責任はある、
>っていうか、むしろ笹井さんこそが、
>まったくモラルの欠如した悪魔主義者だっただろう。
>(ただし、ヴァカンティは、
>CIAかなにかに関係しているだろう、また別の思惑があるだろう。)
>
>
>笹井さん以外の日本人はみんな、ただ欲目につられ、
>踊らされていただけ。バカばっか。
>

188:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/06 01:01:49.10 .net
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189:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/06 01:30:01.24 .net


190:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
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191:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/06 12:28:58.65 .net
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    /ノ / /       ヽ
    |  /  | __ /| | |__  !
   |  |  LL/ |__L ハ L !       ━┓┃┃
   \L/ /・\  /・\V          ┃   ━━━━
   /(リ   ⌒ ●● ⌒ ) 。 ゚ 。      ┃                ┃┃┃
   | 0|゚   ヾ゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。゚。 ゚.                        ┛
   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴ヤクザがageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = - | |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」        |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!     |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >  | |                             |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧   |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
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192:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/06 13:02:15.03 .net
「ククク、クぅ~~~ソスレ」へGO!
ケケケ■

193:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/06 18:50:37.82 .net
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194:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/06 19:24:26.67 .net
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     /ノ / ̄ ̄ ̄\
    /ノ / /       ヽ
    |  /  | __ /| | |__  !
   |  |  LL/ |__L ハ L !       ━┓┃┃
   \L/ /・\  /・\V          ┃   ━━━━
   /(リ   ⌒ ●● ⌒ ) 。 ゚ 。      ┃                ┃┃┃
   | 0|゚   ヾ゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。゚。 ゚.                        ┛
   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴八畳敷がageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = - | |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」        |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!     |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >  | |                             |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧   |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
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195:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/06 19:25:46.68 .net
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196:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/06 21:18:59.32 .net
>>423
オマエみたいな不届き者が居てるさかい、今後もこの馬鹿板を徹底的に
焼くのでナ。そやし覚悟せえや。何年でも何年でも焼いたるさかいナ。
ケケケ■
>423 :名無しゲノムのクローンさん:2015/08/06(木) 20:20:25.78
> この板では誰もサイエンスなんてやってないよ
> 欲求不満を転嫁してるだけ
> 小保方には気の毒だけど
> 自業自得の面も否定できないわな
>
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197:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/06 21:19:48.28 .net
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198:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/06 21:24:03.85 .net
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     /ノ / ̄ ̄ ̄\
    /ノ / /       ヽ
    |  /  | __ /| | |__  !
   |  |  LL/ |__L ハ L !       ━┓┃┃
   \L/ /・\  /・\V          ┃   ━━━━
   /(リ   ⌒ ●● ⌒ ) 。 ゚ 。      ┃                ┃┃┃
   | 0|゚   ヾ゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。゚。 ゚.                        ┛
   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴八畳敷がageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = - | |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」        |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!     |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >  | |                             |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧   |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
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199:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/06 21:24:28.76 .net
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200:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/06 21:25:47.69 .net
フガッ(●●)=3 200げt
 

201:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/06 21:26:39.40 .net
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     /ノ / ̄ ̄ ̄\
    /ノ / /       ヽ
    |  /  | __ /| | |__  !
   |  |  LL/ |__L ハ L !       ━┓┃┃
   \L/ /・\  /・\V          ┃   ━━━━
   /(リ   ⌒ ●● ⌒ ) 。 ゚ 。      ┃                ┃┃┃
   | 0|゚   ヾ゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。゚。 ゚.                        ┛
   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴八畳敷がageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = - | |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」        |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!     |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >  | |                             |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧   |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
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202:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/06 21:27:42.16 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

203:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/07 17:48:58.29 .net
>>630
あくまでも一般論としてだが、こういう問題が生じた場合には:
★★★『基本的能力が高い者(達)の方が能力が低い者(達)よりも責任が重い。』★★★
と考えるべき。特に『当該論文を纏め直して投稿し、受理させた者』とし
ての責任者は、その重大な責任を負うと考えるのが妥当。ソレを「他人の
実験結果を鵜呑みにしたので詳細は知らなかった」と言い逃れるとすれば、
ソレは無責任かつ卑怯であり、糞父と同じ責任回避と見られて当然。
加えて理研の隠蔽体質も批判されるべき。そもそも『無能と知りつつ採用
してしまった』という問題の責任は理研にこそある。理研や笹井氏は世間
に対して媚を売ったり、或いは「安っぽい宣伝」をするべきではなくて、
『研究結果の質のみにて勝負する国際研究機関』であるべき。従ってその
品質に満たないチンピラ研究者は追放して『エリートだけの集団』に改造
するべき。理研は「国家を代表するエリート研究機関」でなければならな
いし、また世間のチンピラを相手にする場所でもない。
国会議事堂みたいな『馬鹿の集団』であってはならない。

> >>629
>
>そりゃあもちろん笹井さんにも責任はある、
>っていうか、むしろ笹井さんこそが、
>まったくモラルの欠如した悪魔主義者だっただろう。
>(ただし、ヴァカンティは、
>CIAかなにかに関係しているだろう、また別の思惑があるだろう。)
>
>
>笹井さん以外の日本人はみんな、ただ欲目につられ、
>踊らされていただけ。バカばっか。
>

204:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/07 17:51:43.66 .net
      / ̄ ̄ ̄\
     /ノ / ̄ ̄ ̄\
    /ノ / /       ヽ
    |  /  | __ /| | |__  !
   |  |  LL/ |__L ハ L !       ━┓┃┃
   \L/ /・\  /・\V          ┃   ━━━━
   /(リ   ⌒ ●● ⌒ ) 。 ゚ 。      ┃                ┃┃┃
   | 0|゚   ヾ゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。゚。 ゚.                        ┛
   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴廃棄物がageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = - | |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」        |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!     |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >  | |                             |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧   |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
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205:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/07 18:28:06.60 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

206:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/07 21:59:22.87 .net
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207:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/07 23:33:35.80 .net
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208:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/08 00:56:42.00 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

209:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/08 01:19:36.35 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

210:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/08 03:50:47.67 .net
      / ̄ ̄ ̄\
     /ノ / ̄ ̄ ̄\
    /ノ / /       ヽ
    |  /  | __ /| | |__  !
   |  |  LL/ |__L ハ L !       ━┓┃┃
   \L/ /・\  /・\V          ┃   ━━━━
   /(リ   ⌒ ●● ⌒ ) 。 ゚ 。      ┃                ┃┃┃
   | 0|゚   ヾ゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。゚。 ゚.                        ┛
   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴フガッがageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = - | |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」        |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!     |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >  | |                             |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧   |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
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211:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/08 04:00:51.16 .net
>>630
あくまでも一般論としてだが、こういう問題が生じた場合には:
★★★『基本的能力が高い者(達)の方が能力が低い者(達)よりも責任が重い。』★★★
と考えるべき。特に『当該論文を纏め直して投稿し、受理させた者』とし
ての責任者は、その重大な責任を負うと考えるのが妥当。ソレを「他人の
実験結果を鵜呑みにしたので詳細は知らなかった」と言い逃れるとすれば、
ソレは無責任かつ卑怯であり、糞父と同じ責任回避と見られて当然。
加えて理研の隠蔽体質も批判されるべき。そもそも『無能と知りつつ採用
してしまった』という問題の責任は理研にこそある。理研や笹井氏は世間
に対して媚を売ったり、或いは「安っぽい宣伝」をするべきではなくて、
『研究結果の質のみにて勝負する国際研究機関』であるべき。従ってその
品質に満たないチンピラ研究者は追放して『エリートだけの集団』に改造
するべき。理研は「国家を代表するエリート研究機関」でなければならな
いし、また世間のチンピラを相手にする場所でもない。
国会議事堂みたいな『馬鹿の集団』であってはならない。

> >>629
>
>そりゃあもちろん笹井さんにも責任はある、
>っていうか、むしろ笹井さんこそが、
>まったくモラルの欠如した悪魔主義者だっただろう。
>(ただし、ヴァカンティは、
>CIAかなにかに関係しているだろう、また別の思惑があるだろう。)
>
>
>笹井さん以外の日本人はみんな、ただ欲目につられ、
>踊らされていただけ。バカばっか。
>

212:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/08 08:31:16.68 .net
>>630
あくまでも一般論としてだが、こういう問題が生じた場合には:
★★★『基本的能力が高い者(達)の方が能力が低い者(達)よりも責任が重い。』★★★
と考えるべき。特に『当該論文を纏め直して投稿し、受理させた者』とし
ての責任者は、その重大な責任を負うと考えるのが妥当。ソレを「他人の
実験結果を鵜呑みにしたので詳細は知らなかった」と言い逃れるとすれば、
ソレは無責任かつ卑怯であり、糞父と同じ責任回避と見られて当然。
加えて理研の隠蔽体質も批判されるべき。そもそも『無能と知りつつ採用
してしまった』という問題の責任は理研にこそある。理研や笹井氏は世間
に対して媚を売ったり、或いは「安っぽい宣伝」をするべきではなくて、
『研究結果の質のみにて勝負する国際研究機関』であるべき。従ってその
品質に満たないチンピラ研究者は追放して『エリートだけの集団』に改造
するべき。理研は「国家を代表するエリート研究機関」でなければならな
いし、また世間のチンピラを相手にする場所でもない。
国会議事堂みたいな『馬鹿の集団』であってはならない。

> >>629
>
>そりゃあもちろん笹井さんにも責任はある、
>っていうか、むしろ笹井さんこそが、
>まったくモラルの欠如した悪魔主義者だっただろう。
>(ただし、ヴァカンティは、
>CIAかなにかに関係しているだろう、また別の思惑があるだろう。)
>
>
>笹井さん以外の日本人はみんな、ただ欲目につられ、
>踊らされていただけ。バカばっか。
>

213:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/08 08:59:09.97 .net
      / ̄ ̄ ̄\
     /ノ / ̄ ̄ ̄\
    /ノ / /       ヽ
    |  /  | __ /| | |__  !
   |  |  LL/ |__L ハ L !       ━┓┃┃
   \L/ /・\  /・\V          ┃   ━━━━
   /(リ   ⌒ ●● ⌒ ) 。 ゚ 。      ┃                ┃┃┃
   | 0|゚   ヾ゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。゚。 ゚.                        ┛
   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴フガッがageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = - | |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」        |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!     |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >  | |                             |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧   |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
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214:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/08 12:20:46.63 .net
>>630
あくまでも一般論としてだが、こういう問題が生じた場合には:
★★★『基本的能力が高い者(達)の方が能力が低い者(達)よりも責任が重い。』★★★
と考えるべき。特に『当該論文を纏め直して投稿し、受理させた者』とし
ての責任者は、その重大な責任を負うと考えるのが妥当。ソレを「他人の
実験結果を鵜呑みにしたので詳細は知らなかった」と言い逃れるとすれば、
ソレは無責任かつ卑怯であり、糞父と同じ責任回避と見られて当然。
加えて理研の隠蔽体質も批判されるべき。そもそも『無能と知りつつ採用
してしまった』という問題の責任は理研にこそある。理研や笹井氏は世間
に対して媚を売ったり、或いは「安っぽい宣伝」をするべきではなくて、
『研究結果の質のみにて勝負する国際研究機関』であるべき。従ってその
品質に満たないチンピラ研究者は追放して『エリートだけの集団』に改造
するべき。理研は「国家を代表するエリート研究機関」でなければならな
いし、また世間のチンピラを相手にする場所でもない。
国会議事堂みたいな『馬鹿の集団』であってはならない。

> >>629
>
>そりゃあもちろん笹井さんにも責任はある、
>っていうか、むしろ笹井さんこそが、
>まったくモラルの欠如した悪魔主義者だっただろう。
>(ただし、ヴァカンティは、
>CIAかなにかに関係しているだろう、また別の思惑があるだろう。)
>
>
>笹井さん以外の日本人はみんな、ただ欲目につられ、
>踊らされていただけ。バカばっか。
>

215:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/08 12:49:48.98 .net
 /・\/・\
.M (●●) M  <ブヒーッッ

216:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/08 14:15:59.48 .net
      / ̄ ̄ ̄\
     /ノ / ̄ ̄ ̄\
    /ノ / /       ヽ
    |  /  | __ /| | |__  !
   |  |  LL/ |__L ハ L !       ━┓┃┃
   \L/ /・\  /・\V          ┃   ━━━━
   /(リ   ⌒ ●● ⌒ ) 。 ゚ 。      ┃                ┃┃┃
   | 0|゚   ヾ゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。゚。 ゚.                        ┛
   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴フガッがageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = - | |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」        |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!     |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >  | |                             |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧   |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
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217:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/08 14:31:09.92 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

218:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/08 16:35:08.40 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

219:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/08 18:21:18.89 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

220:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/08 20:47:18.40 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

221:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/08 22:28:31.23 .net
こういう馬鹿な茶番劇を計画して実行するのであれば:
1.何処をどう誤魔化せば、どの程度まで騙せるのか。
2.その結果としての効果や見返りは何か。
を前もってきちんと見積もり、そしてそのリスクの評価まできちんとしな
ければならない。ミーハーな一般大衆は巧みに宣伝をぶち上げれば騙せる
だろうが、でも海外の専門家はそうは行かない筈。
何れにしても国際権威英国のブランド雑誌や、そして理研そのものが国内
ではブランド価値を持つので、この儒教的権威主義に塗れた日本人を丸め
込むのはそう難しくはないだろう。(そもそも雑誌の国際権威を用いて論
文の付加価値を高めようという考え方は極めて醜い。)
でもこういう事柄はアチコチに目配りが出来る実力者でなければ到底出来
ないと考えるのが自然。そうすると「コレが出来たとすれば、ソレは誰な
のか?」という疑問は極めて自然。但し『証拠もなく誰かを糾弾する事が
出来ない』のは当然であるし、加えて『意図的である事とミステイクの区
別をする一般的な判定基準は存在しない』のもまた事実。更にこれは研究
者としてのモラルの問題ではあっても、でも刑事罰の対象として扱うのは
極めて困難であろう。
そもそもこの国では(もし何かの不都合が生じた場合に)「ミステイクを
意図的と考えて処罰の対象とする」という誤った考え方が横行している。
但しこの点に関しても:
1.能力が無い者であれば、それはミステイクと見做すべき。
2.有能な者であれば(ミステイクは回避出来たという意味で)意図的。
という考え方をするのが妥当。


222:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/09 01:56:30.11 .net
もしかしてこのスレ・・・自分で勃てちゃったとか?w

223:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/09 01:59:19.50 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

224:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/09 02:03:16.53 .net
豚のたてたスレはけーん!

225:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/09 02:03:36.08 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

226:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/09 05:13:53.95 .net
(故)笹井氏と同様ESの日本の第1人者である丹羽氏が
ずっと以前にやって試してるので
それ読めばいいです!

227:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/09 05:16:21.38 .net
こういう馬鹿な茶番劇を計画して実行するのであれば:
1.何処をどう誤魔化せば、どの程度まで騙せるのか。
2.その結果としての効果や見返りは何か。
を前もってきちんと見積もり、そしてそのリスクの評価まできちんとしな
ければならない。ミーハーな一般大衆は巧みに宣伝をぶち上げれば騙せる
だろうが、でも海外の専門家はそうは行かない筈。
何れにしても国際権威英国のブランド雑誌や、そして理研そのものが国内
ではブランド価値を持つので、この儒教的権威主義に塗れた日本人を丸め
込むのはそう難しくはないだろう。(そもそも雑誌の国際権威を用いて論
文の付加価値を高めようという考え方は極めて醜い。)
でもこういう事柄はアチコチに目配りが出来る実力者でなければ到底出来
ないと考えるのが自然。そうすると「コレが出来たとすれば、ソレは誰な
のか?」という疑問は極めて自然。但し『証拠もなく誰かを糾弾する事が
出来ない』のは当然であるし、加えて『意図的である事とミステイクの区
別をする一般的な判定基準は存在しない』のもまた事実。更にこれは研究
者としてのモラルの問題ではあっても、でも刑事罰の対象として扱うのは
極めて困難であろう。
そもそもこの国では(もし何かの不都合が生じた場合に)「ミステイクを
意図的と考えて処罰の対象とする」という誤った考え方が横行している。
但しこの点に関しても:
1.能力が無い者であれば、それはミステイクと見做すべき。
2.有能な者であれば(ミステイクは回避出来たという意味で)意図的。
という考え方をするのが妥当。


228:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/09 05:48:43.70 .net
      / ̄ ̄ ̄\
     /ノ / ̄ ̄ ̄\
    /ノ / /       ヽ
    |  /  | __ /| | |__  !
   |  |  LL/ |__L ハ L !       ━┓┃┃
   \L/ /・\  /・\V          ┃   ━━━━
   /(リ   ⌒ ●● ⌒ ) 。 ゚ 。      ┃                ┃┃┃
   | 0|゚   ヾ゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。゚。 ゚.                        ┛
   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴フガッがageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = - | |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」        |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!     |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >  | |                             |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧   |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
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229:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/09 12:35:02.73 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

230:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/09 16:51:50.24 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

231:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/10 01:24:32.77 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

232:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/10 07:01:30.82 .net
      / ̄ ̄ ̄\
     /ノ / ̄ ̄ ̄\
    /ノ / /       ヽ
    |  /  | __ /| | |__  !
   |  |  LL/ |__L ハ L !       ━┓┃┃
   \L/ /・\  /・\V          ┃   ━━━━
   /(リ   ⌒ ●● ⌒ ) 。 ゚ 。      ┃                ┃┃┃
   | 0|゚   ヾ゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。゚。 ゚.                        ┛
   |  \  冫 、゚    ≦ 三 ゚ 。 ゚ ____________________
   ノ人 /`  ゝ' ゚     ≦ 三 _ ゚ | |  ここは鼻穴大腸菌がageたクソスレです。 |
__ /   。 ≧       三 = - | |  本スレ 「STAP細胞の懐疑点」        |
| |  /   ,  - ァ ,       ≧=  | |                  へ GO!     |
| | /   /    .イレ,、       >  | |                             |
| | | ⌒ ーnnn ,≦`Vヾ  ヾ ≧   |_|_____________________|
 ̄ \__、("二)。゚ /。・イハ 、\、l二二l二二 __|_|__|__
↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
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233:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/11 07:15:05.00 .net
>>417
ああいう事をして『安易な幕引きを画策した』のも理研の敗因。そもそも
この国は「権威は無謬」という誤った儒教的考え方に塗れてる。だから今
回の国立競技場の馬鹿騒動みたいに傷が拡大する。
馬鹿政府や馬鹿文科省は仕方がないとしても、理研は「きちんとした科学
者集団であるべき」なので、過ちは自ら申し出てきちんと訂正するべき。
こんな事を繰り返せば益々国際的な信用を失うだけであり、嘘と言い訳で
塗り固めた醜い糞父と同じになってしまうだけ。
加えてこういう『魔女狩りの如くの犯人捜し』は若い世代をさらに委縮さ
せるだけであり、日本のサイエンスが更に沈没するだけ。こんな馬鹿な国
には研究の将来なんて存在しない。

>417 名前:名無しゲノムのクローンさん :2015/08/05(水) 13:07:16.84
> 石井の誤った不正認定はいつ是正するのか?
>

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238:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/11 19:43:52.28 .net
>>443
ソレは違いますね。私は何も「小保方氏を追及するな」とは言ってません。
追及するのであれば『正当な理由で、従ってきちんとした証拠を伴った上』
で追及するべきだと主張してるだけです。そもそも:
★★★『研究とは(作法を守る事、ではなくて)きちんと考える事。』★★★
であるべきで、従って小保方氏が糾弾されるべきは:
1.もし捏造改竄がその理由であるならば、明確な証拠を提示するべき。
2.研究者としての基礎体力が決定的に欠如している点であるべき。
3.従って「そんな人」を(裏口で:意図的に)採用した理研の責任。
4.そんな人の実験結果を鵜呑みにした論文共著者達の責任。
という問題点をきちんと分析的に考えるべき。
しかも論文の体裁を整えて査読を通過させた笹井氏の責任(不完全な結果
だと知ってて、ソコには意図的に言及を避けた)という部分が疑われる。
(protpcol exchangeにある笹井氏自身の文章にTCR再構成の記述あり。)
とまあ、こういう事柄を意図的に見逃して「無能な小保方氏」だけに責任
を押し付けている。
本来であればこの責任を取るべきは笹井氏であるべき。超無責任な男め。

>443 :名無しゲノムのクローンさん:2015/08/05(水) 14:23:14.97
> >>441
> >加えてこういう『魔女狩りの如くの犯人捜し』は若い世代をさらに委縮さ
> せるだけであり、日本のサイエンスが更に沈没するだけ。
>
> 外国では、不正を行った者は博士号を剥奪されたり、何億もの請求をされたりしている。
> それで若者が萎縮しているとは聞かない。
> これに対し理研や日本の対応は、魔女狩りどころの話ではなく甘すぎる。日本ももっと
> 厳しく処分しなければ世界基準とはいえない。
>

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 ★大和雅之(TWins所長、小保方博士副査、小保方を育てたSTAP捏造事件の最重要人物)、
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255:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/13 23:53:41.15 .net
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257:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 11:56:36.59 .net
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STAP細胞の懐疑点PART927
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258:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 13:02:39.62 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

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259:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 13:03:19.31 .net
>>258
URLリンク(dailycult.blogspot.jp)
2015年6月4日木曜日
大川隆法総裁の長女が大学卒論で盗用=お茶の水女子大が指導教授を処分
本日4日発売の『週刊新潮』が、幸福の科学・大川隆法総裁の長女・大川咲也加氏の
大学卒業論文の登用問題を報じています。咲也加氏は2013年にお茶の水女子大学を
卒業していますが、昨日3日、同大学は卒論の文章の3分の2が他人の論文や著書からの
盗用だったとして、指導教授を厳重注意にしたことを発表していました。

260:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 13:13:46.90 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

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261:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 13:16:20.65 .net
>>260 
URLリンク(dailycult.blogspot.jp)
2015年6月4日木曜日
大川隆法総裁の長女が大学卒論で盗用=お茶の水女子大が指導教授を処分
本日4日発売の『週刊新潮』が、幸福の科学・大川隆法総裁の長女・大川咲也加氏の
大学卒業論文の登用問題を報じています。咲也加氏は2013年にお茶の水女子大学を
卒業していますが、昨日3日、同大学は卒論の文章の3分の2が他人の論文や著書からの
盗用だったとして、指導教授を厳重注意にしたことを発表していました。

262:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 13:17:11.89 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

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15/08/14 14:32:14.58 .net


264:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 14:43:32.93 .net
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265:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 14:46:02.78 .net
>>264
URLリンク(dailycult.blogspot.jp)
2015年6月4日木曜日
大川隆法総裁の長女が大学卒論で盗用=お茶の水女子大が指導教授を処分
本日4日発売の『週刊新潮』が、幸福の科学・大川隆法総裁の長女・大川咲也加氏の
大学卒業論文の登用問題を報じています。咲也加氏は2013年にお茶の水女子大学を
卒業していますが、昨日3日、同大学は卒論の文章の3分の2が他人の論文や著書からの
盗用だったとして、指導教授を厳重注意にしたことを発表していました。

266:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 14:47:51.88 .net
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268:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 15:20:12.48 .net
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15/08/14 16:35:10.20 .net


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15/08/14 17:58:58.34 .net


272:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 18:02:21.96 .net
議論の元ネタが別の話題で流されそうなので再掲
URLリンク(dailycult.blogspot.jp)
2015年6月4日木曜日
大川隆法総裁の長女が大学卒論で盗用=お茶の水女子大が指導教授を処分
本日4日発売の『週刊新潮』が、幸福の科学・大川隆法総裁の長女・大川咲也加氏の
大学卒業論文の登用問題を報じています。咲也加氏は2013年にお茶の水女子大学を
卒業していますが、昨日3日、同大学は卒論の文章の3分の2が他人の論文や著書からの
盗用だったとして、指導教授を厳重注意にしたことを発表していました。

273:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 18:33:04.30 .net
フガッ(●●)=3

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274:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 18:38:27.78 .net
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275:■ ◆2VB8wsVUoo
15/08/14 18:53:59.81 .net


276:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 19:03:26.47 .net
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15/08/14 19:18:11.18 .net
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278:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 19:20:33.76 .net
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280:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 19:39:11.75 .net
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15/08/14 20:03:27.13 .net


282:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 20:07:56.22 .net
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15/08/14 20:27:19.08 .net


284:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 20:34:55.10 .net
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15/08/14 20:43:04.47 .net


286:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 20:47:01.33 .net
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15/08/14 20:50:33.71 .net


288:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 20:52:43.87 .net
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290:名無しゲノムのクローンさん
15/08/14 21:09:48.23 .net
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