Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 141at ENGLISH
Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 141 - 暇つぶし2ch626:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/05/31 19:19:55
>>624
I think so, too.
People who are "DANKAI" or more aged generations seem unlikely to think about Jananese future seriously,
and what is worse, almost all of them like to watch NHK and strongly believe the TV programs or information provided by it is almost true.
It's hard to make the people persisting in one belief realize that they should change their thoughts.
What younger generations can do is go to the polls and choose the statemen/women truely hoping to change this country better.

627:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/05/31 19:42:33
>>625
Oh?
It's conducted when you are on Niconico, and you are suddenly linked to a questionnaire video,
then you are asked to answer all questions within 200 seconds,
one person can vote only once. How many people answer? It's about 100,000.
The admins break down data into each category - like approval rates in each generation.
As for me, I happened to take part in the poll once.
I'd say it's safe to say it's the voice of the Internet users.
Though, of course, that doesn't mean all the Japanese people.

>>626
I'll definitely go vote for LDP this summer. Make Hatoyama know he should get out!

628:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/05/31 20:50:46
>>607
Lol
You were right. It's surely under 20.

629:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 00:04:10
This thread is only decent one.


630:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 00:07:56
>>629
What do you mean by that?

631:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 00:32:39
Hey, I heard that another king of tax evation appeared in England.
I'm concerned the british government is also loopy. You know, after it came to light
Hatoyama tried to evade tax, he started to lose his trust completely and
just within a window of 8 months the approval rate reached 17 percent.

632:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 10:16:27
evation? what's that?

633:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 13:02:31
Hatoyama's crooked face always makes me angry...


634:Native Speaker :3
10/06/01 13:13:11
>632
I think that he means "Evasion". 'Evade' means something like 'Avoid'.

635:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 13:19:47
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636:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 13:26:14
>>634
Tell me about Tea Party.

637:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 13:57:23
>>635
I nearly lose my temper by his stupid face.


638:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 14:00:56
I second that.

639:Native Speaker :3
10/06/01 14:03:37
>636
They are a group of people that don't like the Obama administration.
I personally don't like them very much though; they're the same people that said "love it or leave it" when George Bush was in office.

They think that the United Stats is going to become some Socialistic half-Communist tyrannic empire that wants to enslave their children and kill old people
(they actually thought the Health Care bill included killing old people).
The same people also pulled their kids out of school when a speech that Mr. Obama made for the nation's students was supposed to be shown because they thought it would be propaganda.

640:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 14:12:57
>>637


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641:Native Speaker :3
10/06/01 14:18:19
I know a game that you guys might like to practice reading English with. It's called Nethack.

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That probably didn't come out right but there's a lot of text.
URLリンク(www.nethack.org)

Also, prepare to die. A lot.

642:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 14:45:44
>>639
Last I heard, Tea Party has become sort of influential.

>>641
Speaking of games, I'm playing Dragon Age as I said before, and it
seems hard to get the hang of it. I haven't acquired coercion skill
and so failed to convince NPCs several times. How pathetic.


643:Native Speaker :3
10/06/01 14:52:12
>>642
Yea, a lot of candidates for State elections are trying to get their votes.
That's a good thing for the Democrats, though, because when a party splits only half of the votes count against the other major party.

I'm more of a FPS guy but don't give up :D

644:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 14:59:20
>>641
He looks like Hideo Noguchi.

645:Norwegian
10/06/01 15:28:40
In this globalized world we're living in, being monolingual makes you isolated both culturally and politically.
Even if you're not traveling anywhere you still have plenty of opportunity to use the language you've learned.
You can experience media in its original language (I always try to do that), communicate with people from different countries through the internet and get a different perspectives on global events by reading news from other countries.
Ethnocentricity was cool 200-300 years ago during the colonial age.

646:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 17:17:02
>>637
Have you ever seen this video?
URLリンク(www.nicovideo.jp)

The video is about 15 years old, but I think Ozawa has been no different than he used to be 15 years ago.
What he is doing is pulling strings behind the scene. It's disgusting.
Besides, Ishibashi Takaaki of Tunnels was quite witty and sarcastic against Ozawa at that time.
Hope Takaaki will do the same again now.

647:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/01 19:25:18
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648:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/02 02:21:17
What do you think of his magic, using an i-pad.
I'm impressed with his magic but it seems like quite a lot of people commented there
calling hime fake or anything. Probably people there are apple products haters
and couldn't help but being rude to him, too.
Subbed in English so you can enjoy his tricks in English.

URLリンク(www.youtube.com)

If you want more, you can check this video, too.
URLリンク(www.youtube.com)
I'm sure even people who claim the magician in the first vid is fake will agree
this man in the second vid is REAL.

649:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/02 04:07:54
It'll have been being sunny today.
I'm not happy.
I like the thunder.

>>622
Don't write Japanese here.
And every one dislike political a topic.
Be careful.

650:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/02 05:17:06
in 2ch, here, we have seen much political actibities by those who is zealous to support their favorite political group.
you can clearly see that in this thread.

so, all we have to do is to neglect such topics.
generally the people contribute to 2ch hate those contributores and those who reply them.

just neglect them or you are regarded as one of them.


651:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/02 05:18:03
*activities

652:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/02 09:24:47
>>610
Why do you think that Mizuho Fukushima should not run for the next election?

653:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/02 10:10:48
>>652
You misunderstood me. I didn't say she should not run for the election.
"If she should not run for the election, she wouldn't have gone this far."
That's it.

By the way, break news.
Hatoyama quit! He step down.


654:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/02 10:18:57
We clearily say Hatoyama is the worst Prime Minister in the history of Japan.
He even looks like a pigion fleeing from a cage.

655:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/02 11:00:39
The horrible things strikes me. That is, Ozawa hinding from the scene for a while before the election,
a new person getting ahead, voters will be tricked into believing Democratic Party is believable.

656:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/02 13:58:10
>>653
You should confirm the fact more carefully.
Mizuho Fukushima has been improving performance in labor policy.
She is not a wage-snatch.

657:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/02 14:17:44
Hatoyama talks about the reasons of his resignation without any reflection, which meks me irristibally angry.
How do the Japanese think about his stupid attitudes and comments in the coverage?
Can we really leave Janapese future to the fool party like this?
The size of Hatoyama's brain must be the same as that of pigeons.
He is definately the worst Prime Minister and just a shame of Japan.

658:Native Speaker :3
10/06/02 17:17:22
Here's a funny story.
One day on 4chan's '/jp/ - Otaku Culture' board somebody asked for a translation to a panel in a hentai manga.
It meant 'The pleasure of being cummed inside' but everybody began to argue about whether it'd be better to just translate it as "I love to be cummed in" ,ect
They then continued to argue about whether it even mattered if you actually translate hentai or just put text into the boxes because the story isn't really the point.

Now on /jp/ if you ask them to translate anything from Japanese to English the first reply will always be: My Japanese is a like shaky... but I think it has something to do with pleasure, and cumming.
You can even try it yourself.

659:Native Speaker :3
10/06/02 17:25:56
>>658
little*, not like

660:埋地 ◆eMTYZaOJDw
10/06/02 20:30:47
About Hatoyama's resignation.
I really think now it's time to redo the Restoration.
Because, in my view, all political parties are hopeless in Japan today.
I wonder who is the competent politician? I don't know at all.

661:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/03 05:18:54
>>656
What fact do I have to confirm?
I don't have any confidence in her. She's unrealistic.

>>660
I'm not completely sure if what you meant by the Restoration was, like, all the current political parties
should be disbanded once and then they should form new parties only if their basic policies and thoughts are shared.
But if that's the case, yeah, I agree with you totally.
We shouldn't support Democratic Party in order to achieve this. If DP has enough seats in the Diet, then
they'll say, " voters gave us a chance to do anything we like". That'd be the worst.
The least we could do to avoid such situation is to vote against Democratic Party and make them understand
what we expect politics to be. That's why I'm on your side.

Now to answer your question, able politicians...yeah...I think that depends on personal lookouts on life,
you know, there might be a person who still believes Hatoyama is a good politician, but
in my opinion, Ishiba shigeru deserves your attention, if you are the type of person who
felt irritated at the news that mouth-and-foot disease is spreading in Miyazaki prefecture or that Hatoyama
was responsible for causing trouble in getting rid of the dangerousness of Futenma Camp.
He knows what he's doing. He's trustworthy. Anyway, I think it's best for you to see Niconico videos in the political section.


662:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/03 13:40:53
>>661
All facts which were of help as evidence when you post >>653.

663:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/03 16:37:19
Suppose we change the subject.
I'm getting tired of this.

664:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/03 21:45:43
No idea what to say...

665:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/03 21:53:25
me too.

666:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/03 23:31:08
Aren't you sleepy?

667:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/03 23:35:49
I wasn't asleep. I heard every word you guys ware saying.

668:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/04 00:07:35
That's it for ABCnews,
Good night, America.

669:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/04 00:32:20
XXX>>663-668



670:埋地 ◆eMTYZaOJDw
10/06/04 20:34:12
>>661
Indeed, Sigreru Ishiba may be trustworthy. I do think his speaking is always simple and easy to people.
But, to my surprise, he does believes in UFO. I think he is too obedient and doesn't doubt if UFO really
exists or not. At the point, I can't have high opinion about him.
Because, I don't believe in the occult at all. If you say "UFO really exists!", let me see the testimony.
That are two testimonies; a real UFO and aliens are in.
I wonder if occult freaks can show anti-occult freaks including me that.

671:埋地 ◆eMTYZaOJDw
10/06/04 20:39:47
>>670
Oh, sorry. I've made a mistake again...

○Sigeru Ishiba
×Shigeru Ishiba



672:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 04:52:21
>>670
His way of explaining things is simple but quite logical, and about UFO,
I did see a video on YT when he mentioned it. In my opinion, he wasn't too
serious about it coz he seemed just to have fun talking about UFO. Let me point
out this: He's realistic when it comes to the security issue.
I'm sure you know about that, though..

Beside that, have you heard that Hatoyama actually gave his companions lots of money?
He said he didn't do that... Liar..

673:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 10:59:41
I think Japanese names shouldn't be romanized.
Nobody who doesn't speak Japanese can remember those convolutions of
syllables anyway.
Instead, people should use a translation of the meaning of the characters
that make up their name. Like, someone named 真田 wouldn't be called
"Sanada" abroad, but instead "Truefield."
How cool is that? I wouldn't mind being called Mr. Truefield.
Much better than people calling you Sadanada or Salada, isn't it?

674:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 11:09:30
>>673
Then, what would 佐藤 be?
鳩山元総理 would be ex Prime Minister PigeonMountain?
That's silly. If CNN called him that way, Japanese audience would hardly stop laughing.

675:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 11:20:11
>PigeonMountain
Could translate that as Dovemount. Sounds fine to me.

676:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 11:30:10
Dovemount sounds kind of like the famous American 矢口大学 (Dartmouth College).

677:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 12:56:40
Kan speaks fluent Japanese.
Better than Hatoyama does, I think.

678:677
10/06/05 13:23:00
I mean Kan is a slick politico.

679:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 13:26:51
Hope he is not as loopy as Hatoyama.

680:677
10/06/05 14:27:41
I think Sengoku is the best in the DPJ.
Though I know you like a younger politician, he is well conversant in a wide rage of policy issues.

681:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 15:44:03
>>679
I wouldn't set hope high if I were you.
Read this article.

URLリンク(www.unkar.org)

>>680
Sorry to disappont you, but I have to inform you that he's not an able person.
On the contrary, he'll do harm to the Japanese society.
I'm not sure you heard about this, but let me take it as an example; Sengoku tried
to deregulate the doctor lisence, he said Japan was going to let people practice medicine
without being licensed in Japan.. And I remember he has some kind of connection with
Korean doctors, which suggest that he plans to let Korean plastic surgeons earn huge money.
Who can be sure there'll be no trouble with such doctors? He's too shallow..

スレリンク(news板)l50



682:.
10/06/05 16:05:22
>>681
Hmm...alright.
Who do you believe in then?

683:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 16:26:23
Oh, another issue of political money...?
I'm sick of it.

684:.
10/06/05 16:32:53
Sounds like we all are sick of politics.
Where are we going without a true leader?

685:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 16:35:58
But honestly, have we ever had anyone respected as a true leader?

686:.
10/06/05 16:40:06
Yoshida Shigeru was one of the true leaders of Japan.

687:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 16:49:21
Oh, sorry. I'm not that old and don't know how great he was.

688:.
10/06/05 16:52:29
Ahh, you only know bureaucrats ruled Japan, right?

689:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 17:15:43
That's right. And I can't expect anyone.
Nothing would change significantly whoever becomes the prime minister.
Maybe slightly changes something but it doesn't really matter.
I might be wrong for thinking this way but...

690:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 17:25:55
the glass prison

691:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 17:32:52
You can keep throwing a fit non-stop in here and it will change nothing. That's for sure.

692:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 17:53:21
5 years ago or so, some of the guys I knew said Koizumi was a tough guy. But I said the Japs didn't like him in the end, saying he was the worst PM in the postwar history.
Anybody ends up like that, even though koizumi and hatoyama are totally different.


693:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 19:17:11
anal cunt

694:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 19:27:59
>>689
The least I could say is that things have been worse than they used to be after Democratic Party
took over Japan.They call themselved Democratic, but what they did for the past 9 months made our lives
worse. Come to think of it, Kan is also responsible for that since he was a member of the Hatoyama administaration,
but he became Prime Minister. What was that?
He sure can be a good performer and entertainer, but he isn't the appropriate kind of person who deserves to be manage
a state. Sadlly, some Japanese people love to make out a performer to be a good politician (and get disappointed after
he or she isn't far from it)..

Anyway, what we should do now is stop DPJ from doing anything as they like.
In order to do so, we should vote against the party. I'll probably vete for LDP or
Tachiagare Nihon or Nihonsousin, I'm still not decided on where to vote for, but
one thing is for sure; I'll never ever support DPJ.

695:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 20:25:31
The least I could say is that we should rely on ourselves.
No matter who the prime minister is.

696:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 20:51:55
In my opinion, Japanese politics won't change whoever the prime minister is.
Anyway, it's not prime minister but the U.S. that moves Japan.
The U.S. wrote the senario to make the DPJ fall from the top political party.

697:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 21:05:39
Only non-affiliates(voters) can move Japan, not the US.

698:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 23:47:11
The LDP's new plan looks like combining a consumption tax hike (from the current 5% to 10%) with a corporate tax cut.
Keidanren (Japan Business Federation) has been asking for this for years, and the LDP seems ready for it now.
It's the voters that are likely to get stuck in a loop, after all...

699:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 23:48:52
i dont know much about it but i have this opinion that "the systems" in japan is the problem, like the bureaucratic (kanryo) system.
something is not right about it - not just politicians or citizens.
i think i need to read karen van wolferen's books or something...




700:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/05 23:54:24
so all i can say about that is even if you have another PM, things will end up the same way.
its not about what tax laws or child support laws that the government might implement.

701:名無しさん@英語勉強中
10/06/06 06:02:01
I liked Koizumi.
Then again, the main reason I liked him was probably
that he looked like a Japanese version of Richard Gere.

702:埋地 ◆eMTYZaOJDw
10/06/06 07:13:47
>>672
I see. I might have made a misunderstand about him.
From now on, I'll think better of him.


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