Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 138at ENGLISH
Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 138 - 暇つぶし2ch113:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/05 03:25:33
>>112
Can this be translated to English?

114:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/05 06:51:09
>>111
No, yo hablo ingles. Mi espanol es malo igualmente, jajaja. Es divertida confusa los Japones.

115:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/05 08:00:42
>>113
Idiot -> English translators don't exist!

116:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/05 19:36:57
Anyone using an SRS here? It worked wonders for me. I just stumbled on a funny well-intended post
on Japanese learners' forum. Take a look at it if you have time.
Well, you have plenty of spare time on your hands because that's why you're here, right?

URLリンク(forum.koohii.com)

SRSって知ってる?俺の経験では英語上達にめがっさ有効なんだけどさ、ちょうど
SRSがサイト内に組み込まれてる日本語学習者のたまり場に、SRSってすげーぜ!って
いう書き込みがあったからリンク張ってみた。個人的には試してみて損はないと思うよ。

117:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/06 04:05:00
Hey Faggots,

My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures.
You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy?
I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level.
This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect.
I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team.
What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"?
I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash).
You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves.
Thanks for listening.

118:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/06 07:35:53
>>117
NICE COPY AND PASTE JOB,BRO!
THATZ REALLY GREAT!

KEEP DOING IT IF THAT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER!

119:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/06 07:43:42
>>118
Your resistance only makes m..., wait. You're >>117, aren't you?

120:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/06 08:05:41
no im not 117, u moron

117 is still funny even though ive seen it many times in 4chan.

121:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/06 08:14:00
Your resistance only makes my penis HARDER!

122:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/06 08:14:52
>>120
hm you saw it on 4chan many many times, but it still makes you chuckle?
i'm afraid you're having some serious neurological prob in your head
seek professional help before it's too late it's good not to be insane really

123:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/06 08:21:44
>>122
im really sorry,i meant no offense.

but thanks for your advice
ill do it.

124:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/06 08:38:35
>>123
there there never mind
its not like i was offended by that
come here lil girl ill walk you home

125:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/06 11:40:11
>>116
Sex reassignment surgery? Ha ha!

I use anki

126:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/07 07:03:05
ITT: Gaijinfags conversing in English.

127:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/07 07:52:47
>>126
fags aren't as random cause they're too effeminate to behave randomly
you know what? their "acting" there allegedly "true" gender, which it is not
you cant act a random guy as well as real retards like us

128:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/07 10:37:54
little boy

129:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/07 13:01:18
is a lot more delicious
than lolis

-English haiku

130:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/07 15:49:46
Well I certainly hope the people in this thread are all gaijins, or else Japanese people are learning to speak like 4chan faggots instead of learning how normal people converse...

131:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/07 20:39:43
>>127
They're acting their allegedly true gender, ...

132:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/08 05:00:10
>>130
You're thinking too much. We can talk like your average American/Briton/Australian/whatever.
It's not like we're too stupid to realize people don't talk normally when dabbling in the cesspit.

You behave stupidly over there, and we do too in here.

>>131
fag

133:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/09 18:33:28
Hello, I haven't been here in a long time, am I doing everything correctly?

134:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/10 16:08:36
>>133

No.

135:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/12 00:53:07
bump sage age

136:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/14 01:47:58
I don't know weather I can write on here now, so let me try this post.

137:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/14 04:58:00
>>136
Get out of here while you can. It's dangerous for an innocent loli like you to be here.
I'll walk you home.

138:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/14 09:25:10
             ,. - ── - 、
             /    ,       `ヽ.
            /〃//,. ,ィl/|l ト、 !、 、  ヽ
          ー'´| | l |1 | !l. l| ! | l.|ヽ ! !、 ',   
             YレV!ヒエ「! |l.「_ト!Ll」| l l  l   But I cannot find the way home.
           ! lハイJ |  ´|_jヽ. リ,! ! l. l |
             |l |l.} ー ,   L _,ハl.lトl l. | l
             |l ilト、   n  ''  ,1l|ィ| |l l |
           _ 二,ニ^tュ--ェ_t1」l.|l !リ|_lノ
       r7´   f r┐| 〔/ミヽ>,-、 ̄´
       Y       ー个‐'t  ハ-、_'ゝ、
        ヽ ._・ rく ̄ヽト-'丿  ヽ l
        / (・__,)ゝi┬'´ハ`     '`|
          |ヽ, イ   ノ┴くヽヽ、    /
        `´ ゝ┬ヘ`ヽ   |  `ー‐1
           ゝノ-‐^ー'一''丶  ヽ ヽ
           ト、_       `ーァ'¨不ヽ


139:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/14 12:00:08
>>138
I've been looking for you everywhere! Come here, good girl. I'll walk you home.

140:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/14 16:18:20
eigo de kakitai kedo kakikataga wakaranai.

141:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/14 18:47:00
Hey where is everyone.(as if i knew anyone here...)
it is quiet on this thread so let me liven it up a bit:

this is a song, today, I dedicate it to this thread
(not the people who write here cause they don't seem to exist)
I don't think there are any Japanese people on this thread anyway.
They are all foreigners.

URLリンク(www.youtube.com)





142:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/15 00:08:32
>>141
Here I am darling.
Will you marry me?
I want to kiss your penis.

143:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/15 03:01:25
>142 i don't have one.

144:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/15 16:21:15
>>143
Do you like one? If so, I'd like you to try my one.
I have a good one whose shape looks like a mushroom called Matsutake and its umbrella
is wide open.
Sadly to say, my one has rarely been used properly so far, I know how to use it, though.



145:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 00:16:13
I dont feel like writing here when I see messages like this.
There must be an army of people like you on these threads,
however it would be a friendlier thread if body parts
are not the focus of our dialogue.

Funny enough there is Kame video, with the same song,
and it refers to the same kind of mushroom ( i think
if i hear correctly)

URLリンク(www.youtube.com)

146:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 00:30:39
I was gay

147:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 01:55:38
How come we like talking about body parts?
( I know there are some people who hate talking about such things, most of them are womaen!)
Because there are body parts there! You see?
Talking about body parts is equivalent to talking about what our lives are like.
You never know!





148:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 02:11:52
tired that apply myself to study about caledge's exemination

149:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 02:35:29
Of course humans talk about body parts, it depends in what context,
however here is not the place for that kind of intimacy.
Talking about it here will make you feel even more lonely.
What you need is real face to face human relationships.

150:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 03:07:19
It was reasonable, but my thoughts were different.

151:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 04:50:27
             ,. - ── - 、
             /    ,       `ヽ.
            /〃//,. ,ィl/|l ト、 !、 、  ヽ
          ー'´| | l |1 | !l. l| ! | l.|ヽ ! !、 ',   
             YレV!ヒエ「! |l.「_ト!Ll」| l l  l   Why are adults always talking about such boring things?
           ! lハイJ |  ´|_jヽ. リ,! ! l. l |
             |l |l.} ー ,   L _,ハl.lトl l. | l
             |l ilト、   n  ''  ,1l|ィ| |l l |
           _ 二,ニ^tュ--ェ_t1」l.|l !リ|_lノ
       r7´   f r┐| 〔/ミヽ>,-、 ̄´
       Y       ー个‐'t  ハ-、_'ゝ、
        ヽ ._・ rく ̄ヽト-'丿  ヽ l
        / (・__,)ゝi┬'´ハ`     '`|
          |ヽ, イ   ノ┴くヽヽ、    /
        `´ ゝ┬ヘ`ヽ   |  `ー‐1
           ゝノ-‐^ー'一''丶  ヽ ヽ
           ト、_       `ーァ'¨不ヽ

152:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 05:46:41
because they live by rules

153:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 07:22:40
I am a hade i would like to suck your penis

154:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 08:49:49
>>143
tits, or GTFO

155:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 08:50:40
>>150
STFU Honda, you were useless in the last match.

156:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 12:39:48
>>149
Whatever you say, it's a fact of life that here is the same kind of place as the walls of a toilet
covered with a lot of graffiti.
So you'd better start from accepting the fact and not take things seriously cuz graffiti is none other than graffiti.


157:156
09/11/16 14:34:59
May be I made a grammatical mistake.
here is a place of the same kind as....

158:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 18:26:48
>>151
Come here. I can tell you why. It's not boring if you know what it feels like.

159:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 20:13:57
If this is the case, I must not write here again.
For a while I enjoyed talking to people like esp. fish-san.
Thank you all for the translations, songs and many more things.
Take care and much love to you!

160:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 21:15:21
(´-`).。oO(Good riddance...)

161:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 22:29:39
See, that's why I don't like women. Women are always like this.
It's not my fault! Don't blame me for that!

Koremiyogashi ni wakareno aisatsu nankansiyagatte!

162:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/16 22:31:19
Men are pigs! That's what they say....

163:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 02:20:22
bored people are boring people. you are bored out of your wits and taking your anger on
anyone who is not in your frame of mind. you cannot handle the demands of this life and so
become introverted and insular. You only let in people who feel as low as you do.

Not weveryone feels that way, so it is you who lose out on communicating with people
from different domains.

just an analysis. take it with a pinch of salt.





164:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 02:30:14
i think you guys need to learn social skills.
blaming your own inadequacy on others (women or whatever you happen to hate)
is running away from your attitude problems.
just learn to respect yourselves and others, you will be fine.
it doesnt cost you anything to be polite, it is only natural.

165:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 02:52:18
A guy faking a androphobic girl is posting as a gynophobic loser.
You should know better than to be a pathetic fag, you xenophobic japaneze!

Today's key word is "-phobic." This is a suffix that describes something relating
to a strong, irrational fear or hatred of people or things of a particular kind.

Don't miss the next 2ch English Class!
Happy learning!

This program was brought to you by ggrks.

166:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 03:00:12
>>145
I don't mean to dwell on the previous topic but you're right.
That's matsutake. It's just a kind of mushroom but it costs ridiculously
much in Japan just because of the smell it gives off.

The smell is said to be vomiting on Western people's standard so appreciating
Matsutake is unique to Japan's cuisine culture. It doesn't smell as bad as
Natto. Actually, I think it smells good but the price tag of matsutake is ridiculously
high. I wonder why western people think the smell of matsutake is bad.

167:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 03:08:57
truffle might have the same status as Matsutake in that it is also just a
mushroom and costs much. I've never eaten truffle so I don't know what it tastes like.
I don't think I'll have any oportunities to eat such luxuary foods.
I won't have a chance to go to fancy French restaurant in the future.

Enough of Matsutake and truffle. They are just mushrooms. I'd spend money on
something nutritious rather than mushrooms.

168:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 03:42:27
To make things straight, I have eaten Matsutake and my point is it's ridiculous to
pay much money for a mushroom. Never eaten truffles. I've eaten matsutake because my parents
have been given it by their friends. It's like a status symbol to eat Matsutake and I think
it's ridiculous because it's just a mushroom.

You see sliced matsutake pieces in bento lunch sold at convenience stores but they aren't produced in
Japan but in Korea or China. Matsutake grown there has less or no scents so they aren't expensive.

Convenience stores here add artificial flavor of matsutake to Korean or China matsutake in bento lunch
to make it smell as much as Matsutake produced in Japan.
If sliced matsutake pieces in bento lunch box sold at convenience store are from Japan,
you can't buy the bento as cheap as at around 600 yen or so.

169:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 03:46:01
>>163-164
Didn't you just say "goodbye " at >>159?

170:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 03:54:40
>>169
Anybody can change their minds. Not sure if they are the same person though. Don't be too serious about posts in 2chan in the first place.
2chan is mixed with lies and truth, if you don't have an eye to see through which
is misinformation and which is truth, you can't take the most advantages of online forums like 2ch.
That's what 2chan's founder once said in his interview with mass media.
You have to inscribe his words in your heart or else, you'll find yourself driven in the corner in no time.

171:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 04:06:36
See kids, this is basic comedy/irony: A person preaching
"Don't be too serious about posts in 2chan in the first place."
so seriously. Take notes, you will be tested on this subject.

172:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 04:21:29
Ok, you are the king.

173:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 04:23:04
you guys post messages here to improve your English or just to
kill time?
I just took a quite look of this thread and suggest that if you want to
improve your English, you should not come here,
most of English written here is not so bad but
obviously we can tell its not a natives' writing.
so better not to hang around here, really.
go to another English forum run by native English speakers.

or read English books. that would help you improve your English.



174:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 06:50:36
>>173
I'm curious what makes you write this post.
Did I (or others) say I am here to improve my english?

175:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 07:23:50
Minasan, of course being the human I am, i returned the read the messages.

I was expecting a great big equivalent of F**k o** but, was surprised to see
detailed messages about the matsutake mushroom. I read the bit about how it
is being a luxury food, and not being able to afford it. The message moved
my heart. When I get rich, I will come to Japan and treat
you guys to matsutake mushroom dishes. In return you will sing Karaoke with me!

How about that now.

PS: Being the silly human I am, I wanted you to say, don't go! in my heart of hearts.
But in reality was expecting you to tell me off badly! Thank you for changing the
atmosphere to a more freindly one.





176:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 07:28:10
>>175
Fuck off. Seriously.

177:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 07:34:57
I will not, because I am mentally prepared that you would say that.
Take that, weakling.

178:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 07:35:58
Instead I will exorcise this thread with a storm:

URLリンク(www.youtube.com)





179:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 08:42:57
>>169
A drama-queen will never leave her stage.
Everything has to be soooo dramatic, she even writes a goodbye note on an
anonymous forum. It doesn't even cross her mind that NOONE GIVES A SHIT.

And of course her boardicide didn't even last 12hours.
She cared sooooo much how people would react (on an anonymous forum mind you),
whether it be positive or negative. Again, it doesn't even cross her
mind that NOONE GIVES A SHIT. Egocentric people are like that.

Oh noes! Now she MUST defend herself on an anonymous forum!
Rational thought doesn't matter, her bloated ego demands it.

180:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 08:59:27
>>179 i just had natto on toast. but the beans did not defrost
well on the inside.

It frothed up nicely. I poured in the soya sachet contents.
It was half frozen.

I squeezed in the mustard. It kind of spurted in bits. It tasted good.



181:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 11:12:31
>>179
Totally agree.典型的なメンヘラだよね。

>And of course her boardicide didn't even last 12hours.

lol

182:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 11:14:07
As a Japanese I hope this thread won't become a place only for Japanese English
learners. I hope this thread keeps being a place for people from around the world
regardless of what their mother tongue is as long as they can communicate in English.

>>178
I bet that's a song from a J-drama. I bet the song itself isn't brand new.

183:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 12:09:36
The hottest news in Japan now is the arrest of Mr. Ichihashi. He killed a British woman in 2007 and
when cops visited his apartment, he ran away bare foot and since then, he had been running away
for as long as two years until he was arrested about a week ago.

He underwent a few cosmetic sergery to change his face. About a month ago, his new face after underwenting surgeries
was made public. The new photo was a key that led to his arrest. His father is a doctor and mom is a dentist. He went to
good university but its said that he had inferior complex not being able to be a doctor.
After he graduated from university, he didn't get a job and lived alone in an apartment whose rent his parents paied.
That's where he allegedly killed her and left her body in a bathtub in veranda with her dead body covered with sand.
He is from a wealth family as you can guess.

He got to know the victim by approaching her asking her to be his English teacher. He hasn't said anything to the police
about what happened between him and her so no detailed information has been revealed. He neither has eaten anything after detention nor
said anything about the murder.

184:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 12:14:41
Horrible thing is that some girls say he's cool and there seem to be fan girls of
the suspect even if he is a murderer.

185:Josh
09/11/17 15:39:47
Hey japs
chin chon chin! hahahahahha chin chong ching
asians are creepy fuck offff!!!!!!!

186:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 15:41:15
Yeah, WHen I saw a picture of Ichihashi after plastc surgery, he seemed like a person in Yayoi period so I laghed but he became cool now

187:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 19:11:55
>>178 no sir the song is not from a drama, it is heavy rock if you
would bother to watch it.

Itis by a fave band of mine, Luna Sea, who were active in the 90s.

Just because I listen to Kat-tun and watch drama doesnt stop
me listening to rock and metal. I am not an average Jani otaku.

i am surprised the resident troll no >>179 doesnt reply to my natto experiences >>180
and tries so hard to pickup a fight. eat more natto i say.

188:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 19:33:02
>>183 i wouldn't mind being asked to be a private teacher by a
vampire bishounen.

189:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 20:00:16
>>187
I wouldn't call Luna Sea's music heavy rock. It's a mixture of pop and
rock. The drummer of the band is on ugly side but his character is nice and
friendly. When he got married with a member of "Morning musume," I thought the
girl's standard of choosing a husband isn't how they look outside but his
inner side. You don't have to look like a Johnny's boy to get married with a
beautiful woman although the drummer's case might be an exception.

190:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 20:16:03
>>186
> a person in Yayoi piriod
   ↑
It's so funny!!!

191:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 20:36:25
>>173
Uh, take a good look around. What site are you on? What board are you on?
Why is it that 99.99% of the posts on this site and this "English board" in Japanese?

Here's the board premise:
□ English板は、英語に関する情報交換と学問的な議論の場所です。

Now why isn't that in English? Here's why: This site and this board is
generally for Japanese people. Of course anyone from any ethnicity is
free to post, but you should know and at least respect that premise.

This thread is mainly for Japanese people to practice posting in English.
Not necessarily "learning English", but a place to post whatever,
be it "penis, vagina, shit, fuck" without being corrected or
mocked or laughed at for their lack of English abilities.


I have a hard time understanding why non-Japanese people come here.
And they seem to stay. It shouldn't really be a problem, variety
is a good thing and mixing with native speakers can be benefitial.

But please do keep in mind that it's generally a practice field
for the Japanese, not a place for weaboos to feel closer to Japan.
There are other sites and communities for that, but not so much for
Japanese people to dribble on in their poor English without feeling ashamed.

192:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 21:32:51
>>191 I don't undrestand your need for exclusivity on an open thread.
We are using English language to communicate, that is what matters.
The topic could be anything, so long as we practice in English.
Why do you feel so defensive about people who like Japanese food, music etc.
Do you feel they are stealing your identity? Do you feel they might change you?
I cannot understand why you are thretened by people like me.
Do you feel that if we get close and undrestand each other, it might be dangerous?
Is this a WWII rooted emotion?

193:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 21:37:41
I can speak to people of any nation who struggle with their English.
There are ways of communicating with people despite their langauge problems,
it is not all black and white. I learn a lot more from people with language
difficulties than people who speak fluently. In the process i notice I bond well with
such people, simply beacuse it is an exchange of effort and understanding on both sides.

I see no harm in such human dialogues, unless you have deep rooted fears of course
(which I also can understand).



194:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 21:42:13
on hindsight i think i understand what you mean. I should have been posting more about
life in Europe . Asking questions about Japan may feel like an interrogation to Japanese.
I will be more balanced with my posts from now on.

195:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 21:49:08
This really impressed me URLリンク(www.youtube.com)
>>190

haha thank you for warossing.

196:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 22:47:03
hi

197:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/17 23:51:31
>>195
I'd rather watch Janet Jackson in Super Bowl Half time show than Michael Jackson.
I miss her boobs "accidentally" exposed to the people on the spot as well as
in front of TV.

198:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 00:41:54
>>191
>But please do keep in mind that it's generally a practice field
for the Japanese, not a place for weaboos to feel closer to Japan.

you say "practise "right? practise---to exercise oneself by repeated performance in order to ACQUIRE SKILL)
This is not an ideal place to practise your English.
you guys English is not bad, just need a bit more polishing. that's why I suggested you
to join Native English speakers forum,so that you would not be a "ino nakano kawazu".

well... best of luck!


199:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 00:48:32
>>198
What forum do you suggest?
4chan is out of the question and there are no forums equivalant to 2chan.
Maybe Digg is a good place.

200:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 01:23:52
I got 200. Would you give me a shower of kisses?
Only girls, please.

201:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 02:15:41
>>199
I'm not >>198, but I think any forums are ok as long as you have interest.
If you like baseball, MLB forums would be nice.
If you're an anime geek, English forums for anime lovers would work.

I personally frequent Mac Rumors because I'm kind of a mac fanboy.

If you're a total loser who has no interest in anything, you can still go to Japanese learners' forums.
The dumbest native Japanese speaker is still of help over there.
Actually it's quite useful to know what kind of thing non-native Japanese speakers get tripped up by.
If they find a grammar point difficult, usually it's the point where Japanese and English are fundamentally different.

Anyway, if you're anything like me, it never works if you go to forums that should be good for your English but you don't like very much.

Get addicted and have fun!

202:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 03:43:33
>>200 i wont kiss you, but will offer my ramen.

203:help me
09/11/18 04:35:03
I want to alive as global citizen rather than Japanese.
whrere shuld I live in ????


204:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 04:53:21
>>203
A Japanese person can be a "global citizen" you speak of too.
You might want to think about what you actually mean by "global" again.

Also, your English sucks. I'm not saying you need English or anything,
but if you're planning on using English as an international auxiliary language to be a more "global" person,
I think you've got a long way to go.

205:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 04:59:52
>>203
France!


206:オレンです宜しく! :D
09/11/18 05:14:46
Hey よろしく。
僕の名前はオレンです、そしてイスラエルに住んでいます。
僕は小さいだったときから、英語を勉強しています。
だから僕に頼ることは出来る。
そうだね、2ちゃんねるにいる人達はけっこう変態だけど、皆はそうじゃないすよ。
僕とかね、偶然にこの掲示板を見付けて、今、コメントしています。
そして、「英語を習う一番いい方法は何だ」って誰かに伺えたら、応答は:
「練習、練習、練習、練習は必要! いっぱい練習したら、きっと色んな新しいものを分かっちゃいますからね。」


207:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 07:32:59
>>206
Hi, Oren.

Welcome to the cesspool on the Japanese internet. As much as we want to believe we're not perverts, we know we are.
Thanks for your kind comment though.

So, how long have you been learning Japanese and English if I may ask?
You seem to know lots of words and grammar and can write in decent Japanese.

Anyway, if you're posting here to practice your Japanese, let us know if you'd like us to correct errors.
I think you can ask any questions about Japan and the Japanese language here too.

208:help me
09/11/18 08:18:46
すごい偶然ですね、よろしく!
Year、I need English as our common language.

>>204
I appleciate you. I will polish myself.. through long way to learn.

But wait,since I've started to learn English I got to notice my eye color change
dark brown to brown →dark green →now, my eye rim is dark navy !!!!
I use English more over, my eye color got to change more more over!!
I can only speak English simply, not skillfully...

why???? the eye color will changes for language????
people tell me "your eye color doesn't look like japanese"

why??????????????




209:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 08:55:37
>>201
Thank you for your response. You've got a point there.
I think I'm a loser, so forums for Japanese language learners must be good
although I'm not so interested in what kind of troubles they face on the course of
studying Japanese. Peace.

210:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 09:01:45
>>208
Go see a shrink. Just tell him the story you just said. You'll thank me later.

As for your English, don't use words or phrases you don't know well.
Don't translate. Don't generalize any kind of rule. Mimic native speakers.

You'll sound like a native speaker when your phrase inventory becomes large enough to handle any situations you come across.
As your natural-sounding phrase/sentence vocabulary improves, you'll start forgetting which language you're speaking.

211:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 09:08:18
>>209
Why are you learning English then?

If you have absolutely zero interest in any kind of activity other than leaning language,
how about visiting foreign language learning forums?

212:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 09:34:59
>>203 of course you should learn to live in the internet.
Have you watched Dennou Coil? All you need is the augmented
reality visors.

I am from the internet. Global people travel all over the
globe but are limited by lack of language skills,
cultural barriers etc. However citizens of the net travel the
cyberspace and explore the frontiers of man-man and man-
machine communication. Human communication does not have boundaries.
Language learning is fun when you learn to communicate as a human being.
All you need is tolerant and patient communicators. Communication
comes first, language follows communication.

The Yakuza on this board go around this thread
with virtual baseball bats are trying to scare people like me to leave.
They also torture fellow Japanse citizens for not speaking perfect
English (which is a terrible blow to their confidence)
They tell us gaijins not to feel close to Japan or Japanese people,
they love to label us weeaboos,drama queens, Jani otakus,
trolls whatever, But we persist.

Your English is OK, do not believe anyone telling you off, continue to
practise. Just try to write here as much as you want,
and you will get better and better.

213:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 10:55:52
>>212
>Your English is OK, do not believe anyone telling you off, continue to
>practise. Just try to write here as much as you want,
>and you will get better and better.

No. You can't magically conjure up the unknown by practice.
Practice makes perfect? It's a myth. It works only when you know what you're doing.

Let's say, you know how to throw a curveball and how it should travel, but you just can't nail it.
Would practice work? Of course, yes. You try to throw it properly 10,000 times and you'll be a master of curveball.

Now there is a guy who doesn't know how to speak English. He doesn't know what English should sound like.
Do you think writing practice makes perfect?

Practice can move your passive vocabulary to your active knowledge.
But it doesn't teach you anything unless you get feedback.

214:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 12:16:09
The earth is globular

215:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 12:53:47
>>192-194
You totally missed my point.

>But please do keep in mind that it's generally a practice field
>for the Japanese, not a place for weaboos to feel closer to Japan.
>There are other sites and communities for that, but not so much for
>Japanese people to dribble on in their poor English without feeling ashamed.

How can you take that as the Japanese being threatened by you?
I explained why this thread is rare for Japanese people.
Why is it that you "dwell" here and not other sites about Japan?
Of course you're free to, don't get me wrong.

I just don't understand why people will go to a little league place
and start playing there. What do you think that will result in?
I think that results in a fair number of little leagures not wanting
to play there because of the "intruders" (for lack of a better word).
Think about it.

216:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 12:55:54
>>198
What you say applies for this:

>This thread is mainly for Japanese people to practice posting in English.

But you totally missed, or intentionally ignored this:

>Not necessarily "learning English", but a place to post whatever,
>be it "penis, vagina, shit, fuck" without being corrected or
>mocked or laughed at for their lack of English abilities.

217:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 12:56:27
What do Japanese people think of 4chan?
Do any of you browse it?
Just curious.

218:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 13:26:22
>>217
Used to troll a few boards over there.

Night time /a/ was good, /b/ was too immature and stupid, and /v/ was boring.
Other boards move too slow. Not sure what they're like now.

219:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 14:12:41
>>215
thank you

220:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 14:21:10
>>217
I don't think Japanese ppl know or even heard about it.
I hadn't until I read someone mentioning 4chan here in this thread.

221:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 14:25:28
>>220
If you speak English and watch some anime and stuff, you probably know what 4chan is though.

222:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 18:05:08
>>213 you have such a negative attitude about language learning, it is baffling.
I guess it must be your conditioning. Actually it is annoying too.

What do you mean practising is useless??
I have had many a friend and colleague who had very little knowledge
of English and when they befriended me, they never stopped listening
to their broken English and kept encouraging them that they are doing
fine, keep talking, keep writing,converse with confidence, and they
did,... as a result their English has improved enormously.

These people are : from France, Italy, Russia, China. I told them to
stop saying "my English is so bad", I kept telling the reverse, while
stretching them. With patience and good dialogue, their learning curve
accelerated (shall i say exploded). Now I built a reputation for
being a patient and good listener, these people send their students and
subordinates to improve their English to me (a non-native speaker of English!).



223:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 18:06:21
I never stopped listening to their English...

sorry

224:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/18 18:31:56
>>215 I do not understand how you could relate the non-native English
speaking Japan fans to the lack of language development of your
fellow countrymen. It doesnt make sense! (1)Not many native speakers
of English would bother to write here (2) you have no way of policing this
thread, you cannot make it a pure native English- Japanese learner thread
(3) Bullying "weeaboos" make you look bad and creates an unfriendly atmosphere
Just because you detest them doesn't mean they are creating some Japanese
person's language problem!
(4)You are way too strict regarding language learning. Learning is an individual
act that evolves in a social sphere. How the skill is acquired is person dependent.
It is a subconscious development that can be carried out consciously. But sometimes
the conscious instructions can interfere with the more fluid, natural development.
Language is something you "let flow" rather than "forcefully learn".


225:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 01:40:36
This is one of the human body wonders.
You grip your any of your finger and rub it then nothing happens.
But you grip your penis and rub it then you feel really gooooooooooooood.
That's amazing, isn't it? Don't take that for granted. Grip whichever body parts of yours and
rub it. Nothing happenes. But when it comes to doing the same thing to your penis,
you'll feel realll good.

I'd call it the humanbody wonder.

226:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 01:55:10
>>215
Good analogy on the little league. I myself am not japanese, but agree with you.
But Im afraid people who dont get it just wont get it.
We see it in real life, the gaikokujin who come to japan thinking they know more about japan
and the manners there than other gaikokujin, or even more than the japanese themselves.
They get ostracized, and then make a scene of how theyve done nothing wrong. They blame everybody
but themselves, calling others xenophobic or racist and still refuse to leave when asked politely.
They dont care that theyre giving other gaikokujin a bad name.
I see the same thing happening here. They just dont get it.

227:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 02:22:21
URLリンク(www.youtube.com)

Brad Pitt and Quentin Tarantino on Japanese TV show as a part of their new
movie's promotion.

228:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 03:36:24
>>215 you are completely out of line with what is being said. We are
referring to people who are learning English here right on this
internet thread. The debate is about why and how this thread should
be open only to (1)Japanese people learning English, and (2)
the native speakers of English. It has nothing to do with
foreigners living in Japan, this thread is NOT Japan,
it is in cyberspace.
You are completely confusing countries with cyberspace.
I guess it is some sort of location based identity
disorientation. Good luck for surviving in Japan.
Maybe you should not live there if you are already
blaming the "other"foreigners for your own problems.
You sound pathetic.

229:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 03:38:04
>>228 should have said

>>226 not >>215

pathetic referring system

230:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 03:41:19
this whole "intruders" thing in an open thread smacks of pure
insecurity. it is so annoying to have someone constantly whining about
gaijins in Japan, why dont you start an English thread for gaijin haters
and leave this thread some breathing space.

231:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 04:12:30
>>228
>>191

232:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 05:09:09
>>231 if you are a moderator then remove the "weeaboos from all over the world"
bit from the greetings section. dont make them feel welcome from the start
and they will disappear.


233:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 06:26:07
I love gaijin.<3

234:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 06:49:04
Looks like someone overstayed their welcome.

235:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 06:52:53
i told you to introduce a visa system. this is what happens
when you have an open thread let the riff raff gaijins in.
oh sorry that contradicts with
the spirit of the internet, my bad.

236:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 06:59:29
Everybody can stay here as long as they want.
Let's talk about nonsense and have lots of fun!
For starters, I'll dance naked, dangling my bats and balls.
Enjoy!

 ♪  A
   ♪   / \   ランタ タン
      ヽ(´Д`;)ノ   ランタ タン
         (  へ)    ランタ ランタ
          く       タン


237:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 07:00:51
OOPs I only have one bat just in case you're wondering.

238:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 07:10:02
>>233 is Ichihashi

239:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 09:10:48
lol clueless bitch is clueless.
It's pretty obvious it's not an anti-gaijin thing, it's an anti-bitch thing.
Can't stomach the fact that noone likes you here eh?

Here's a clue since you're so clueless.
Noone at an anonymous forum cares about individuality. People are
rather against it. Noone cares about your experiences, what you saw
or what you ate, or how fascinated you felt by sticking tofu up your ass.
Talk about more generic things, and noone should have a problem.

240:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 10:12:42

The mutual goal: Chill the fuck out, stop acting like a total noob and ignore each other.

That's the way 2ch works most of the time.

241:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 10:43:59
>>239
I'd love to hear about tofu up ones ass.
Only if there are pics to prove it though.

242:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 11:02:19
Not revealing individuality leads to dry atmosphere and that's not interesting.
If you want to reveal some individuality, that's more than welcome.
You have to be careful not to be indentified, though.

I want to know more personal matters from posters here even if it's anonymous board here.
>>240 might be the best policy to take the full advantage of 2chan. Not sure, though.

243:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 11:12:51
Does anyone need anything translated into English?

244:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 11:30:48
>>242
No, people hate jibungatari on 2ch.
If you want that stuff go to mixi.

245:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 11:56:37
>>242
I might read and reply,

or I might just ignore it. That's it.

246:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 11:59:05
>>244
It doesn't hurt adding a personal touch in a post even in 2chan.

247:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 18:23:50
Part of you says individuality is no good
Others say individuality is welcome
I thought part of 2ch strengths was
it is open so people can say whatever they like.
Isnt that true?

248:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 18:31:20
>>239 You are complaining like an senile old man. Shut up and practise
what you preach!

249:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 22:40:05
One way to mask the moronity of posting personal stuff is to add a question to it so others can respond easily.
It's one of the most basic communication skills and it works here, too.
You have to expect some flaming anyway though, since this is 2ch.

Either way, don't take it too personal, just enjoy it. It's only 2ch.

250:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/19 23:23:18
>>249 Do you always wait for someone to pose a question to be able to
engage in a dialogue?
That is beyond pathetic.

251:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/20 00:03:53
Ha ha ha, I was only suggesting one option to avoid coming off as an attention whore while being one.

It's a technque to fit in. You know what I mean?

252:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/20 00:13:25
>>251 i understand what you mean.
But I do not understand this "phobia" of being labelled an attention
whore, drama queen etc. nor have any fear of being perceived that
way. You guys seem very frightened by that label.
. I am very happy to write as I feel.

Why are you so worried about what others think? this is just
a thread.

Could it be the concept of the "nail sticking out gets hammered"?
please help me understand.


253:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/20 03:00:24
>>252
>Why are you so worried about what others think?

Is this a joke? You seem to be the one who cares about what others think the most.
"Oh I'm leaving...Oh I thought people were going to say bad things about me
but I was also hoping people would say they wanted me to stay..."

254:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/20 03:39:16
>>253 What a shallow, superficial understanding of others.
My hoping that people wanting me to stay has nothing to do with my
views on how you perceive me. Those who try to pigeon hole me get
a whack on the head.

I am pointing out to your insecurities, not mine.

I wonder if you are a computer programme. You are incredibly
negative and cold hearted.




255:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/20 04:08:34
Kabuki actor and female news anchor announced today they'd engage in the near future.
They met for the first time when the anchor interviewed him last December.

URLリンク(www.youtube.com)
From 2:21

She's soooooooooooo beautiful and I envies him. He has gone out with lots of
beautiful women in show business.

256:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/20 05:35:27
>>254
Why do you have to be so defensive and fight fight fight?
You seem mentally unstable and insecure. There's no need for drama.

257:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/20 05:51:50
>>256 fsssst

URLリンク(tinyurl.com)




258:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/20 08:30:10
>>256
Please don't touch crazy person.

259:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/20 09:42:20
>>256
>>258
same deranged troll

260:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/20 10:12:43
キチガイメンヘラ暴れすぎワロタ

261:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 00:11:27
URLリンク(www.youtube.com)

I'm amazed with her ass movement.
I want her to press her butt on my face hard and I want to suffocate to death.


262:firestar
09/11/21 11:05:22
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  </ ̄ ̄丶
 __彡ノメノノレリ〉
 \ ルリ゚ヮ゚ノリ
  ><(つiつ⑨
 ∠_く//」」〉

263:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 11:11:59
>>262
What's the thing you have in your left hand?


264:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 12:41:16
>>263
That's '9', as you see. I didn' know firestar knew touhou.



265:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 12:45:21
Hello,Is there any Shotahcons here?
I am one of them.

266:firestar
09/11/21 13:32:30
>>264
touhou is quite popular on 4chan.
every 4chan board has touhou posts/threads, even though touhou is off-topic in some of the boards.

267:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 13:49:41
how gay

268:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 14:02:16
Why american people always posting 'gay' to the everyYoutube videos?
thats so silly

269:firestar
09/11/21 14:22:39
>>268
i guess they do not like the video

270:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 14:27:26
yeah but they are so rude
if they don't think the video is not interesting, they don't have to post something..
I'm tired to see many posts saying 'gay' to many randome videos and cute little boy's video too.

and they posts ching chong chin to japanese little boy's video.

271:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 14:29:40
Is that so?

272:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 14:35:31
yeah.I was shocked!

273:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 14:37:39
This is great, a pedophile preaching manners.

274:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 14:38:03
Yeah, that's so gay.

275:firestar
09/11/21 14:45:10
indeed.

276:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 15:02:56
>>273
huh?


277:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 15:06:09
Ass is the most popular word in the world. Everybody has an ass hole to make love so we can make some friends easily just saying ASS.

278:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 15:15:17
There's no word like 'fuck you'in japanese language
so plz don't ask for it


279:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 15:26:02
Every Japanese has an ass, right?

280:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 15:47:48
>>279
Last I checked, I don't have one. I don't shit. I'm always pristine clean unlike you.

281:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 15:50:46
>>280
But you are one.

282:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 16:08:26
>>280
You are an one-celled parasite in 2chan.

283:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 16:17:45
>>282
2ch is not "2chan", you fucking piece of shit.

284:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 16:19:01
what do u want EVERY night,honey?

285:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 16:29:13
>>283
Japanese people often call beloved someone attaching "chan".
2chan is better tone than 2ch.

286:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 16:35:35
2chan is the domain name for Futaba, so it's a bit confusing, actually.

287:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 16:37:03
>>285
2chan is Futaba, the site 4chan ripped off.
It's not a part of 2ch.

288:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 16:41:59
I want to call this site 2chan even if its accurate name is 2ch.
You can call me fucking piece of shit.

289:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 16:53:22
>>288
Please leave.

290:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 17:57:08
warosu

291:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 18:54:26
Where is the exit?

292:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 18:56:20
Please point the exit with your dick.

293:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 19:13:00
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294:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/21 19:19:19
Good work!
You don't need the index finger to show the way.

295:あぼーん
あぼーん
あぼーん

296:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/22 11:55:34
I'm an English learner, but most of others not.

297:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/22 13:17:59
>>280
In my opinion, you are...
full of shit.

YEAH

298:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/22 14:32:41
>>297
I don't think anyone is asking your opinion.
My opinion is always better than yours.
I'm always right, and you're always wrong.

299:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/22 16:59:45
>>296
Yes, it sadly seems so.

300:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/22 17:26:40
>>299
I'm also an English learner.
I make it a habit to come here to learn English by reading other people's posts.
Sadly to say, there are lots of words and phrases in them whose meanings I don't know.
And what is worse, I don't have an eye for whether thier Englsh expressions are authntic or not, I want to memorize
useful expessions, though.


301:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/22 17:55:02
And this is a good place for foreigners where they learn Japanese flavors.

302:firestar
09/11/22 20:00:48
>>300
don't worry, you ain't missing anything.
this place went to shit

303:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/22 20:08:44
You'd better leave here if you wanna train your English skills.

304:firestar
09/11/22 20:11:25
>>303
this.

many moons ago people would come here with real english questions, but now it seems this place is mostly for trolls.
rather sad...

305:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/22 20:33:46
Even if English question was asked more often before, here is a presious
place to talk with English speakers so you have to be on call 24/7.

306:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/22 20:56:15
I got Russian cute boy in skype.

307:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/22 21:43:13
I don't care what this place should be, as long as I feel it interesting.
Interesting trolls are better than boring questions.

308:firestar
09/11/22 21:47:03
>>305
I shall make some fixes.

Even though in the past English questions were asked more often here, this thread is still a presious [precious?] place to talk with English speakers. So you have to be on call 24/7.

I chose to replace 'if' with 'though' because 'if' sounds too hypothetical. You are stating fact, not theory. It is indeed a fact that more English questions were asked here.

URLリンク(englishinfocus1.googlepages.com)

>be on call 24/7
are you telling us to be here 24/7? lol


309:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/22 22:51:18
>>308
Thanks for the correction. If I remember correctly, I learned at school "even if" and "even though" can be
used interchangably, meaning English teachers at school don't teach the subtle difference
between the two. I doubt teachers themselves know the difference in the nuances they have.
I suspect Japanese exams don't require students to know the difference.
One of the typical questions in an English test would be to change a part of a sentense to mean the same thing.

Say, they give the original sentense that starts with "Even if" and the other sentense they provide starts
with "Even (blank)." Examnees have to fill in the blank with "thoguh" to answer it right.
All students have to do is remember "even though" can be replaced with "even if" and vice versa without
knowing the subtle difference between the two.

I somehow answered correctly the quiz on the page you linked probably
thanks to your explanation and the one on the page.
There's another typical English question where students have to change a
sentense. The question is change a sentence that starts with "I don't know if---."
The correct answer is " I don't know (whether)-----." If I'm not mistaken,
"I don't know whether----" is more formal than the other. Am I right?

Does your explanation regarding "if" with hypothetical nuance applly here, too.
Yes, You guys have to be on call 24/7 here but if you prefer to be here only on the night shift,
that's acceptable. This thread adopts three shifts system. hehe

310:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 01:33:16
Do you want me to take your bag for you., at least?

311:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 01:48:30
>>293 cave paintings are more interesting

that one is too graphic

312:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 02:22:03
i have a question

could you please teach me ho wto make a thread in 2ch

thanks in advance

313:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 05:33:05
No, because it'll only open new doors of faggotory.
yw!

314:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 05:42:28
>>313 suit yourself.
next please.

315:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 05:56:49
>>309
"Even" is there to add a more stronger sense of "Yeah, yeah. I kind of admit that. But..."

"(Even) if we have a plethora of trolls here, it's better than nothing." means
"We may have tons of retards on the interweb, but I'm a ronery loser and they always alleviate the pain piercing my virgin heart."
In other words, you're emphasize the "may" sense by adding "even."

You can also reword it as "Whether we have tons of trolls doesn't matter. We're better off playing with them."
As you can see, "if" and "whether" is similar in meaning.

While you can't replace "whether" with "if" in the example sentence, the core meaning is pretty much the same.
Actually if it flows well in a sentence, you can swap "whether" and "if" without changing its meaning, e.g.,

"I don't know if I want to be virgin anymore" means "I don't know whether I should pretend to be religious any longer."

You don't need to care about the difference in formality.
People like you will never ever be in a situation where that kind of subtle difference is critical.

"If" = hypothetical is kind of true, but fuck that.

あってると言えばあってるんだけど、その説明は微妙。どっちかつーと、even は if の
特定の意味合いを強めてるというほうが直感的に正しい。で、基本的に if と whether は
意味がかぶってる。なんか文の中でうまくはまらないときは交換不可だけど、いけるときは
あんまり差が無いし、どっちが堅い表現かなんて気にしなくて問題なし。微妙な差はあるけど
上に書いたことが直感的に理解できないレベルじゃそんなこと気にしても無駄。

>>312
lurk moar. Or take a look at the bottom of the front page of each board if you're reading this on some browser like IE.
You'll see 新規スレッド作成画面へ. If you already tried it but failed to start a new thread, give up.

316:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 06:41:03
>>312
I'll explain how to do it, taking English board for example.
You see "掲示板に戻る 全部 前100 次100 最新50" right above a comment field, right?
Click on 掲示板に戻る and you'll be taken to URLリンク(academy6.2ch.net)
That's the top page of English board. Scroll all the way to the bottom of the page.
You see wide pale green lying across from left to right almost at the bottom of the page.
You see an icon, button I should say? there that says "新規スレッド作成画面へ"
Click it, then you'll go to the page in which you are suupposed to fill in
the title of a thread, your name, E-mail address, and message.
The biggest field is where you write a message which becomes the post number one of the
thread you're going to make. You can leave your name and email address fields blank like when you post a comment in
this thread but you have to fill in the title field and message field.
You see "新規スレッド作成" button on the page and click on it.
In my case an error message appears. If an error message doesn't appear
and you procceed like when you post a message in any thread, that means
the first post is successfully done. Check the top page of English board and
see if the new thread you've just created is there on the list of threads.

I think there are no difference in making a thread in other boards but
I heard that in some very popular boards only people who are eligible can make a
new thread. That's because the more people one board draws, the higher risk they
get of trolls making irrelevant threads. So 2chan impose tougher rules
of making a new thread in such popular boards with large traffic.


317:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 08:48:42
>>316 many thanks for the detailed explanation. I will save this message for reference,
when I make my thread, i will let you know so that yo can come along
as a special guest. i will treat you tea and cake.

318:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 09:25:01
>>317
we will present you many many cock

319:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 10:46:19
Then we will present you many many mock.

320:firestar
09/11/23 11:22:09
the word 'if' is indeed hypothetical.

if i win.
if i jump.
if i pass.

all hypothetical.

321:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 11:45:08
>>320
URLリンク(www.merriam-webster.com)

Function: conjunction
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English gif; akin to Old High German ibu if
Date: before 12th century

1 a : in the event that b : allowing that c : on the assumption that d : on condition that
2 : whether <asked if the mail had come> <I doubt if I'll pass the course>
3 ―used as a function word to introduce an exclamation expressing a wish <if it would only rain>
4 : even though : although perhaps <an interesting if untenable argument>
5 : and perhaps not even <few if any changes are expected> ―often used with not <difficult if not impossible>
― if anything : on the contrary even : perhaps even <if anything, you ought to apologize>

>the word 'if' is indeed hypothetical.
>all hypothetical.

Hmm. Are you sure about that? Didn't you forget to add "in these cherry-picked examples"?

322:firestar
09/11/23 11:55:15
>>321
I assure you that all of my examples are hypothetical if. The examples I gave are correct.
You can go and check them on your own time if you do not trust me.


323:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 12:01:05
So is this where all of the faggots from 4chan come and have a massive orgy?


324:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 12:01:56
>>322
You're missing the point. I think these examples you gave are all hypothetical too.
The thing is that there is more than that when it comes to "if."

Did you read >>309? He talked about the "even if" = "even though" thing and "if" = "whether" grammar.
Do you really think the usage 2, 4, and some others are also the same hypothetical "if" as the "if"s in your examples?

325:firestar
09/11/23 12:59:50
>>324
The examples I gave where hypothetical if.
I gave such examples because hypothetical if seemed not to be understood.

'whether' is used for a choice between alternatives.

'whether A or B.' -which one, A or B?
'asked whether the mail had come' -mail had came or mail had not came?

both examples are hypothetical choices, so 'if' can be interchanged, because 'if' can be hypothetical.

326:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 13:36:00
>>325
Ah, maybe you're a native English speaker?
Your average English teacher in Japan teaches Usage 4, i.e., the "even though" meaning, as the selfsame "if" as "if"s in your examples.

As the dictionary says, "if" as in "This is an interesting if untenable argument" is quite different,
and this is the "even though" meaning of "if." But teachers don't speak English, so
they just say if can mean "even though," and students tend to use "if" when it sounds too hypothetical.

As I said, your theory is kind of true in the sense that "if" is hypothetical.
But there is a different level of "hypothetical-ness."

327:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 13:46:39
Ah, the last line was kind of ambiguous.
I meant that there are various kinds of "if"s and that some are more "hypothetical" than others.

"If"s in your examples are very straightforward and easy to see it's hypothetical.
"Whether" is also hypothetical, but in a slightly different way.
"Even though"-ish "if" as in "an interesting if untenable argument" may also be hypothetical in a sense.
But it's not as straightforward as the usual hypothetical meaning,
and usually it's used with a different kind of sentence structure.

328:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 14:23:10
you lose

329:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 14:33:38
I'm so happy I don't have any handle names.
Even if it's just a handle name, I have to defend myself to protect my name.
That leads to endless arguments. This is the typical boring question and answer.

330:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/23 23:07:09
Can I borrow 500yen from you guys?


331:firestar
09/11/24 00:52:46
URLリンク(www.wpgb.com)

332:firestar
09/11/24 00:57:39
>>326

USAGE

If and whether are more or less interchangeable in sentences like :
'I'll see if he left an address'
and : I'll see whether he left an address,
although whether is generally regarded as more formal and suitable for written use.

But, although if and whether are often interchangeable,
a distinction worth noting is that if is also used in conditional constructions and whether in expressing an alternative or possibility.

Thus, : 'tell me if you’re going to be in town next week' could be strictly interpreted as 'you need not reply if you are not going to be in town,'
whereas : 'tell me whether you’re going to be in town next week' clearly means 'a reply is desired one way or the other.'

-- source is Dictionary.app

333:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 01:21:30
>>330
If you come to my house, I can.
I am waiting for you, though I won't tell you my address.


334:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 01:31:59
>>332
Nice try, firestar. But that's not "even though." You're missing the point. Again.
You only proved there are multiple sentences in "if"s, which is what I said in >>326.

The problem he had was that he was taught or believed that "even if" and "even though" were always interchangeable, which is wrong.
And the reason they teach this kind of thing and he had trouble understanding the difference is that
they don't know "if" as "even though" has a different kind of hypothetical sense.

If you still think you're right, prove that "if" in "4 : even though : although perhaps <an interesting if untenable argument>"
has the hypothetical sense to the same degree as the one you used in your examples in >>320,
i.e., 1 a : in the event that b : allowing that c : on the assumption that d : on condition that.

If you can't, you just cherry-picked examples in >>320.

335:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 02:29:51
>>334
Stop nagging. Mr. know it all.

336:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 03:13:44
a thread full of pathetic bored virgin oyajis debating endlessly on
things noone cares about.


337:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 03:23:22
I'll go for a swim even though the water is freezing.
→factual

I'll go for a swim even if the water is freezing.
→non-factual

I'd go for a swim even if the water were freezing.
→counter-factual

338:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 03:36:33
>>337
Yep. You can't swap "if" with "though" in your examples.
But some teachers say you can because they think "if" can mean "even though."
This is true in the sense that "if" in "It was an interesting if unbelievable story" actually means "even though."
But of course, "even if"s in your examples are different from "even though."

By the way, the second "if" in your examples has the sense of "whether," i.e., "regardless of whether the water is freezing or not."

339:firestar
09/11/24 07:39:49
no longer feeding trolls


340:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 09:07:28
Now you know better, bro.

341:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 11:23:47
URLリンク(www.youtube.com)
1:03

It must be widely known among the Kamenashi's fans that he is good at playing baseball.
SMAP's Nakai's team consisting of TV personalities played an exhibition
game with a professional baseball team. Kamenashi threw good pitches and his batting
was good, too. After the game, asked by a reporter who he thinks is the MVP (Most valuable player) of the game,
Nakai answered "I can't answer the question myself," jokingly implying it's arrogant
to call himself MVP. So Nakai made Kamenashi answer the question instead of him.
Kamenashi might have thought another player other than Nakai or even himself deserved
to be called MVP of the game, but he felt kind of pressured from Nakai to answer that
Nakai is the MVP. Kamenashi understood Nakai's humor and answered properly
that Nakai is the MVP. Good "senpai" and "kohai" relationship.

342:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 12:50:58
I have a great idea. Let's start a thread for Jani Ota where we can talk about
Johnny's boys in English. That way, everyone will be happy.
What do you say?

343:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 13:08:03
>>342
I wonder if a thread made exclusively for Johnny's boys can gather many posts.
Even in this thread, sometimes not many posts are posted.
That means to post a post in English is a big hurdle for us Japanese English learners.
That's my opininon. Some people may agree with you.


344:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 13:30:04
>>342
Can I start a new thread on this board? Yes. Someone has already explained how to do it.
Can I hijack this thread? Technically yes. But I don't think everyone is happy about that.

If you think that kind of topic would make us all happy, you can always start a new thread and give the link here.
If you don't think it's going to catch on, you know the topic won't make everyone happy.

You're not too stupid to understand this, are you?

345:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 14:12:17
Look at the pictures of the knit.
Is it just a misspelling? Or old term or somthing like that?

URLリンク(zozo.jp)

346:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 14:21:16
Wut?
Johnny's boys are all attractive and interesting celebrities to talk about, and
I think it will motivate a lot of Japanese people to learn English.
Ah I see, you're just jealous 'cause you can't be as popular as they're.
That's so gay.
  ,,,,,
 (・e・) Get a life. 
彡,,, ノ

347:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 14:36:58
Personally, I am neither jealous of nor envy them.
As long as they're celebrities, than can't do whatever they want, such as
going shopping whenever they want for fear of being spotted and mobbed
by their fans or taken photos of them by paparazzi.

Their prime time is very short, 10 years or so on average. Most of them get to draw less and less attentions
as they get older and with only a few execptions, almost all of them dissappear from
TV shows when they enter 30's 40's. After they failed to keep their popularity,
their life is miserable while they can't forget about their glory days.
Some have hand in illegal drug and ruin their life.

Enthusiastic Johnny's boys' fan girls get married, have kids and Johnny's
boys'll be the bottom of their priority lists, gradually forgetting about them.


348:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 14:37:55
>>346
Can you even read English?

>If you think that kind of topic would make us all happy, you can always start a new thread and give the link here.

Yeah! Johnny's boys are all attractive and interesting celebrities to talk about!!
So why not go start a new thread on this board rather than hijacking this place?
Since they're so attractive, you'll get tons of people in your own thread!

They deserve their own English thread!!!!!!!!!!! Yesssssssss!!!!!!!!!!

349:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 15:36:38
Lulwut? You're flipping out on me just because I pinpointed the exact sore spot
in your heart. The truth is you're bullshitting in an attempt to fake your emotions
right there. Good god, you're making a gigantic ass of yourself now.
Go take your butthurt feelings and crawl back under some futon or something.

  ,,,,,
 (・e・) Yeah, you may already know this by now but I just did it for the lulz.
彡,,, ノ 

350:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 15:50:03
The more you use lul, the more you sound stupid.

351:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 16:06:09
  ,,,,,
 (・e・) Indeed
彡,,, ノ 

352:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 21:58:47
What a fiscal mess our country is in!

353:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 22:42:11
>>349
Well, actually I kind of like some of Johnny's cute boys for some reason.

354:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 23:28:52
I wonder how popular the Johnny's boy thread will be.
I won't go there cause I'm not interested in their dicks nor asses.

355:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 23:46:50
I foresee that it would be very popular with dick AA

356:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/24 23:57:52
They are sexual object, after all, no matter conscious or unconscious.

357:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 00:12:07
OH NO!

Day or two I disapperaed for a after a fight with the oyaji troll on
this board and look what happens.

Someone stole my new English Threadmaking idea!

After following the anti-Kame threads on 2ch, I had the idea of making a
a pro-Kame ginternational support thread in English.

But some of you fangirls decided that before I could announce it

Go ahead then, I will support you.

Let us leave this thread to grumpy old trolls who complain
about everything, every message and insult posters constantly

358:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 00:54:09
VIP de shine

359:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 00:56:31
I want hiroyuki to make only english thread in which we stand news threads such as from Japan Times or Asahi English news.
And we chat each other in English.

360:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 02:18:25
I want know English. What do I do?

361:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 04:28:04
360 keep practising without hesitation, write here and chat with us,
good luck

362:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 04:34:11
Thank you!! I'll do it!!

363:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 07:28:54
>>357
Do you want to make an enemy of all oyajis? You are insulting old people.

364:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 09:43:06
No, absolutely not!
I have no problems with general elderly, but
I just can't stand Oyajis.
They stink, they burp, they throw up, you name it!
I try to stay away with them as much as possible.

365:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 09:52:21
>>364 Hey! you are not >>357!! speak for yourself!

i never said anything against the elderly. do not generalise!

366:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 09:56:49
I prefer Yamashita to Kame.
As a matter of fact, that's the fact of life.
Yamashita's new tune is awesome.

367:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 10:05:37
Yes, Tatsuroh Yamashita is good. It's that time of year again.

368:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 10:29:00
Noooo, Tatsuroh Yamashita is only a money monger.
He wrote that song knowing that he will make a fortune out of it,
by copy-chatting the successes of Wham!, John Lenon, etc.
In Japanese, such deed is called 'Azatoi'.

369:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 22:24:47
>>346
You can't use "they're" at the end of a sentence.
I'm not sure why, but you just can't. In this particular case, you are emphasising "they are", and so it is wrong to contract it.

>>368
I think you mean copy-cat. However, you can't use it as a verb. You can say "copying". You are referring to the general success of these people, so you would not use the plural.
You would say "success", not "successes".

370:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 22:51:19
  ,,,,,
 (・e・) Actually, I noticed that myself right after I posted it. It just doesn't sound right.
彡,,, ノ  Thanks for nitpicking anyway.

371:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 23:00:48
You will like my Kame.

372:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/25 23:08:03
  ,,,,,
 (・e・) FYI, the word "copycat" can also be used as a verb.
彡,,, ノ  Hope this helps. URLリンク(www.thefreedictionary.com)


373:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 01:05:48
>>372
I'll pluck feathers from you and put you in boiling water to feed my dog.


374:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 01:10:27
  ,,,,,
 (・e・) Then you'll eat that dog? That's not very nice of you.
彡,,, ノ 

375:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 02:03:09
>>374
I know you're 16 years old.

376:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 11:17:54
>>369, >>372
Thanx very much for your advice!
I used 'copy-catting(v)' rather than 'copying' to emphasise negative connotation,
but thanx for the valuable info.
Also, thank you for the latter part of the advice.
Plural vs singular always drives me nuts.

377:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 13:58:46
>>375
I'm convinced nowadays that the ordinary Japanese is still twelve years old in mind just as the General MacArthur said sixty years ago .

>>375
Whether the noun is countable or uncountable is a very significant marks which we can handle the word with.


378:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 16:39:10
apliciateってなんどい?

379:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 17:45:14
>>377
>still twelve years old in mind

Hey, that's exactly how anime and otaku culture has flourished and the niche market has grown well.
Which makes some 'mature adults' proudly otaku in Japan. Let's look at the bright side, buddy.
Pedophilia is running rampant now?
Leave them in the corner of society, they might come in handy sometime too.

380:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 18:04:43
What' most favorite comics you guys?
And tell me reason it.

381:380
09/11/26 18:34:17
Is my English strange?


382:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 18:59:41
no worries

383:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 19:10:15
keep going your way.

384:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 22:01:16
>>380
I don't read comic books so I can't answer you.

385:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 23:12:17
>>380
What are your most favourite comics you guys?
And tell me your reasons.

386:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 23:15:54
>>380
I like "Tasogare Ryusei Gun" by ....
Sorry, I forgot writer's name.

387:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/26 23:16:41
Comics are for kids. I'm an adult.

388:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 00:19:15
I like English but Writing is not understood.

389:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 00:40:04
are you nigga?

390:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 01:35:42
Got turkey?

391:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 08:12:13
yes where are the Jani fangirlz? setting up a thread in English?

Come on I am waiting!

392:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 09:54:28
I wonder what's hip in the US now?
It used to be so that all the hip things were created in the US
and spread all over the world, but nowadays, that doesn't seem to be
the case.
If one goes to the US now, what should he/she buy, for example?

393:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 11:20:18
>>387
That's why there's the term "Graphic Novel".

394:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 11:22:00
>>391
Go to 4chan.
This English board isn't a place for such stuff.
If such a thing is set up, expect it to be flamed.

395:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 11:31:43
>>393
Isn't the term used for eroge?

396:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 12:01:47
>>394 Why dont you open your window and jump off it grumpy old bitter man,
other people's threads is none of your business.

Jealous old oyaji like you should be banned from 2ch.

If I was a dictator i would ban you from the English language threads.


397:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 12:18:54
>>396
You can't be popular with boys in your own country because you're too ugly and otaku.
That's why you jump to Johnny's boys to console your own heart.

398:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 12:45:00
>>397
Why are you so jealous of Johnny's boys?
Did you happen to apply for becoming one, and didn't get
Johnny-san to say 'You, Kichainayo!'?
If you really are better looking than Yama-P or Toma,
I bet you still have a chance.

399:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 13:11:40
"Mind your own business and let us do things our way"
Such mentality displayed by >>396 is absoloutely HATED in Japan.
It has nothing to do with xenophobia or open-mindedness, it's about respect.
Respect for the locals and their surroundings, including local rules.

There is a wonderful Japanglish term called "TPO".
It stands for Time, Place and Occasion.
It's important to know your TPO in Japanese society.
The English board is not the Place to make fangirl threads.
You "can", but expect it to be flamed into oblivion.
That's how things work around here.

400:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 13:15:42
>>395
No.
I know it's generally not good to cite wikipedia, but saw no problem in the entry:
URLリンク(en.wikipedia.org)

As you can see in the entry, they're deemed different from "comic books".

401:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 13:26:59
Every "J ota" girls dream to suck "J tale"s' dick.
Every "J tale" boys are already eaten by their boss "Mr.J.Kitagawa".

402:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 13:27:48
Excuse me we are NOT IN JAPAN

This is the INTERNET

THIS IS AN ENGLISH SPEAKING thread.


403:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 13:34:26
>>399

they are going to make their own thread so why are you throwing tantrums?




404:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 13:35:08
>>399
I hope that you realise that
402, 391, etc., is a troll. He's trying to get replies from people, if they don't reply,
he get's bored, so just ignore him.

405:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 13:36:34
>>398

He probably fell in love with a Johnny, but Mr Kitegawa got there
first.

He has been bitter ever since.

406:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 13:37:47
>>405 LOL

Maybe he is a Johnny's audition reject!

407:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 13:38:56
he failed to please Mr Kitegawa and got kicked out!!!

408:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 13:47:47
creepy inside of Johnny's world

409:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 14:03:26
>>408 not creepier than the lurking lolicons on this thread

410:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 14:38:33
>>409
So you do understand that johnny's ota are seen the same way as lolicon.
As you can see, the same arguments can be made:
"The old hags are just JEALOUS that they're not young and cute like the lolita girls!"

For normal people, johnn's ota and lolicon are both creepy.

411:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 15:11:07
>>402
>>191

412:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 18:13:02
Johnny's boys seem to be pretty young dolls to me.

413:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 19:53:01
>>412
Then you might like Ken Watanabe, Ken Takakura.

414:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 21:01:47
>>410 therefore ou are admitting the fact that there are no rule
s as to what we write here lolicon or Jani Ota, it is an open thread.



415:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 21:02:48
You Americans created the amusement park for everyone(includes adults).
It's called Disneyland.
We Japanese created the comic book for everyone(includes adults).
It's called Manga.
That's why Japanese culture prevails all over the world.

416:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 21:03:00
very nice

URLリンク(www.youtube.com)

417:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 21:08:58
>>412 They are extremely pretty, but it is their cute side that is the
main attraction.

418:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 21:10:27
>>416
It's like a living ダッチワイフ(sex doll).

419:名無しさん@英語勉強中
09/11/27 21:30:12
They are gorgeous.


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