09/02/20 06:00:11
>>320
Yeah, we have the expression "cat's tongue," meaning a person who
has cat's tongue can't drink hot drink whose temperature actually
is not so high and is suitable for drinking.
>>325
If I remember correctly, his first choice is USC. His second choice include
Ivy league on the east coast. He's done with all processes regarding
USC application and waiting for the result. Whatever university he'll go
he's going to major in Scientrogy or Scatology. That's what I read here.
337:Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE
09/02/20 07:05:39
Do people in Japan still like Emily (applemilk) from youtube? If so, why? I've never really understood it.
338:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 07:28:14
>>337
If you don't like her, why not?
Without biased ideas, she is a good looking girl with gorgeous body.
That's why some people like her. Some Japanese are atrracted by her
becasue she speaks Japanese.
What Japanese people get about her facts and figures are from what's written
and spoken in Japanese by her. Some Japanese people may know her what's called
e-begging, some not.
Nick writes about her in his blog and quite a lot of people gather there,
comment about her. I don't know what Emily's personality is like, which
from what I read in his blog doesn't seem to be commendable.
I would say some people in Nick's blog is jealous of her being able to live in Japan.
Quite a lot of people commented abuot her figure saying she has love handle or what not,
but those comments are rediculous. She has gorgeous body, actually.
Her body is on the high end of bikini models. I would say her figure is
almost perfect.
Do I like her? Not really but I don't understand why Nick's blog gather
such readers.
339:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 07:52:48
>>337
Believe or not, Emily seems to still have a small fanbase predominantly comprised of her avid Japanese
worshippers, despite her current questionable words and deeds. I don't really care too much about e-celebs
or those dramas evolving around them, but I can reasonably assume that few Japanese people even know about her.
340:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 07:55:06
I'm filled with anxiety.
Now the economic downturn caused by global financial crisis is becoming worse rapidly.
Unemployment of the United States is skyrocketing, and what's more,
it will certainly influence Japanese labor market.
It is not difficult to predict that a good many people are likely to lose their job.
My primary concern is the augmentation of the suicide rate.
People who are suffering from paying off housing loan must be distressed about making ends meet.
I hope the recession will recover soon!
341:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 11:39:50
I have almost no interest in this Emily girl. And she's not so famous in Japan
except for a limited number of people here. Bad news to you?
342:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 12:51:45
American girls love to squint and talk with curl lips to make them look sexy or
cool, don't they?
Emiley is the one to come up with.
343:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 13:47:20
URLﾘﾝｸ(farm4.static.flickr.com)
I don't know why such a facial expression is called lip-curling.
When I first heard lip-curling, I imaged protruding or
pouting lips. In this case lips are curling above and below
looking from the side.
344:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 14:10:05
I realized I couldn't join in your conversation. Farewell～.
345:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 14:23:42
No you can!
346:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 14:31:50
>>345
Do you mean "Yes, you can!"?
347:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 15:23:45
>>346
Either is acceptable usage.
The "no" is used as a direct negation of the previous statement, and what follows is what the speaker wishes to declare.
Putting "yes" is a way to doubly affirm the declaration, while the negation is contextually implied (as that usage can also be used to show agreement).
348:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 16:25:37
>>347
Then I gotta punch my English teacher in the face. Ugh! He only teaches me engrish.
349:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 17:42:01
URLﾘﾝｸ(farm4.static.flickr.com)
meaning curling lips (inside) our mouths?
350:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 21:45:15
>>339
What did she actually say and do ?
I once heard somewhere in 2ch that her personality was very bad.
I'm not partuculary concerned about her, but I'm a bit interested in what she did and disappointed her fans.(・o・)
351:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 23:12:38
>>350
Long story short, she made a video clip that claims she would go to a university but doesn't have enough money,
and she requested donations from her viewers for that purpose. Technically, there's nothing wrong or illegal about it,
but she's never mentioned school or exams since then and shut down the comment function for the video.
Instead, she keeps reporting about the band she formed in Japan and her days of band practice. Again, I don't
really care what she does, but I could imagine her fans who pitched some change towards her tuition wonder where
the money went.
I'm fully aware this is a very stale way of enjoying gossip, so don't dis me on this one. I'm just replying.
352:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 23:30:44
She had just collected the money lied to go to university?
What a bitch.
She deserve to be arrested to prison.
353:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/20 23:35:46
did people actually give her moeney?
354:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 00:03:47
>>351
She is a fraud literally if the donation was used for another irrelevant thing. Peaple who gave her money should indict her.
By doing it, they might be able to meet her actually at a cout...
355:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 00:22:50
more importantly,
what kind of morons actually send money to some teenager on youtube?
356:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 00:51:11
I remembered the fact that I'm going to university by the help of a scholarship,
and I found there would be no neccessity of offering donations to go to university.
Just beause she is a bit cute, it doesn't mean telling a lie can be justified.
In retrospect, I've never heard someone demanded money just to go to university...
She made use of her beauty to exploit fan's property! What a sly girl!
This is a great lesson.
357:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 01:54:38
Asking for donation for the benefit of personal goal is more common in US but we Japanese aren't
familiar with it. If a person who's asking for donation is suffering
from a serious desease and has no money to be hospitalized or to go
through surgery or anything, then Japanese people feel sorry about her
and some people might donate some money.
But in case of Emily, I just thought why do I have to give some money
for her tuition. Lots of Japanese people apply for scholarship or
work hard part-time after getting into university to pay university
tuition.
One organization supports students who lost their parent(s) because of traffic
accidents and can't afford to go to uni. I don't mind donating some money for them.
Emily on the other hand, doesn't seem like being thrifty. She goes to
Starbucks often, buys whatevery she wants rainging from video games,
CDs to nice clothes. All she has to do now is settle for coffee sold
in vending machine instead of expenisive Starbucks, sell CDs and video
games. She has to earn some money on her own if she's serious about going to university.
Asking for donation without making any effort? Give me a break.
358:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 01:57:48
Who is Emily anyway?
359:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 02:41:27
Emily is a youtuber who speaks decent Japanese.
She lives in Japan now.
While she went to Japanese language school while working as a model in Japan.
She says model but actually some people call it a soft core porn.
360:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 02:47:02
Now she quit the modeling job.
She made a two piece band trying to debut in Japan's music industry.
361:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 02:57:07
I'd like to talk with a very pretty, beautiful, and gentle teen girl on the Internet.
I wanna be taught how to talk in English if possible.
Dose anyone know how to find such a girl ?
362:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 03:19:09
>>361
米人 here is your perfect language exchange partner except she's not
a teenager.
363:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 03:26:17
>>361
I have thouht all of us are Japanese.
364:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 03:26:51
thouht -> thought
365:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 03:32:36
>>362
If I remember correctly, her zodiac thingy says she's vain.
It may not that big a problem for him though.
366:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 03:59:02
I'm sure there's no such gorgeous women like 米人 on the east coast of
America. West coast? Maybe some of the women on the west coast and
in the Great Plain are as hot as her.
I bet she's one of the hottest women in their forties in America.
Do you know why the Statue of Liberty doesn't face Boston? That's because
the Statue of Liberty gets jeralous of 米人's beauty.
367:Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s
09/02/21 04:16:04
A woman at a store not far away from here was sexually assaulted by a man
in the parking lot.
I wish I could have been there when it happened so I could have personally beat
the shit out of that guy.
368:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 04:30:13
>>367
Well, I only wish the predator wasn't there so it would haven't happened.
Granted that you could have saved her, but it doesn't change the fact that she had a terrible experience. I think an attempt alone can be terrifying enough to devastate her happy life.
369:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 05:36:04
>>367
I guess 4channelers aren't athlete type and even if you had been there,
you would have been beaten to death.
370:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 05:39:00
>>369
Didn't you know 4chan has /fit/ and /sp/?
371:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 05:40:29
>>370
What's the /fit/ and /sp/ thing?
372:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 05:42:52
And it's got /k/ too, though I think true anons are the kind of faggot who would videotape it, fap twice, and then post the vid on /b/.
373:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 05:44:17
>>371
/fit/ - Health & Fitness
/sp/ - Sports
/k/ - Weapons
374:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 05:47:54
>>373
Thanks. Then some are as big as a battleship?
4chan is an image board so they take photos of their body and
show off them in /fit/?
I can't imagine popular guys who play football at school are browsing 4 chan.
375:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 05:54:53
>>374
I don't think jocks or alpha males would browse 4chan either.
But it doesn't mean Tennessean is a skinny weakling who couldn't save her.
376:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 06:05:03
I've just checked /fit/ and saw some people showing off their bodies.
They have great build enough to counter attack molester.
I'd challenge Tennessean to a sumo bout or two.^^
377:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 07:22:55
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.kukinews.com) (Korean news)
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(news4plus板)l50 (2ch thread)
According to the Korean newspaper, many Korean girls are flying to America after Bush agreed on Korean entering America with no visa
and in order to enter the country without fail, they ask (Korean) doctors to issue a certificate of being phisically challenged and sitting in a wheelchair
to make sure American people will be nice to them. They say that American people let them claim baggage without pain (no waiting)
and so they take advantage of American conscience. After they pull through, they stand up and start walking out of the airport.
The newspaper says that the problem is, such girls go to America because they are going to
work as prostitute in LA.
____________________________________________________________
Wow, hang in there, America..
378:Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s
09/02/21 07:39:18
I have a lot of experience in live fighting. I'm not saying I'd win for sure,
but I think I have a much better chance than someone with little to no experience. Being a
lot stronger than me doesn't matter if you have never actually thrown a punch at someone
before (or taken one, for that matter). Win or lose, I would still have tried to take the
criminal down on principle.
379:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 07:48:17
Boasting about having lots of live fighting experiences is based on DQN mentality and what's not
praised for.
Having lots of live fighting experiences means either you aren't good enough
to solve problems without relying on phisical fights or you are a kind
of person who tend to put yourself in danger situations where you have to
rely on physical fights.
In a nutshell, this kind of person have a low crisis management skill.
380:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 08:13:48
I guess this is what we call a cultural difference, but these posts >>367 >>378 sound extremely stupid to me and, I think, to most of Japanese.
Apparently he'd sound differently in his culture.
It seems there's a lot more than grammar and vocabulary when it comes to learning language.
381:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 08:15:17
My wink is the most powerful weapon.
Anybody who are winked at by me falls down on the spot.
Even a raging bull is neutered once I wink at it.
382:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 08:21:03
>>380
European, but agree with you.
383:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 08:21:16
To me, >>367 sounds like a man of justice.
But >>378 sounds a little bit stupid because he tries to show
how many living fight experiences he has.
But the reason why he tried to prove he's physically tough is that
I implied 4chanellers are physically weak. So I don't blame >>378 that much.
384:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 08:21:38
>>381
The whole world is waiting for your vid on youtube.
385:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 08:25:18
>>384
I learned throguh e-learning course how to overwhelm a raging bull just by winking.
386:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 08:28:26
you guys' english is so low level..... are you all japanese middle school student?
you should laern english from I very good english.
my english are perfect american real like amreican persan's english.
I studyed very hard english because, I know you envy me. Do your best english.
387:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 08:30:36
>>386
You don't sound look like the best troll.
388:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 08:32:27
>>387
At least he managed to troll one person right there.
389:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 08:34:22
Ooopps. He got me.
390:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 08:49:05
By the way, I think trolling native speakers on the internet are one of efficient ways to learn language.
Some responds to my stupid posts in "bad" language and some try to educate me by using polite words.
It's better if you sock puppet to support your stupid posts in polite, educated language.
Retards keep yelling at me, and patronizing fags remain polite so you can learn two different registers of your target language.
On top of that, those trolled speak sincerely and voluminously, which is difficult in real life.
I do this everywhere and it sure improved my English. What do you think?
391:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 08:57:42
>>378
Quick, Tennesean! Save her before it gets 404'd!! YOU CAN DO IT!!1!
URLﾘﾝｸ(zip.4chan.org)
392:Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s
09/02/21 09:23:23
>>379
What do you mean by DQN mentality?
I don't think you know what it is like to live in a place where crime actually
exists. For example, say a man starts running towards you with a knife and plans
on mugging you? Are you going to talk him out of it when he is already sprinting?
That happened to me a few years ago.
This may not be the case in Japan, but in a lot of places in America, there is a
chance you may be assaulted at any moment. In fact, as I was saying earlier, a woman
was assaulted just down the street this morning.
If you acknowledge that you may be attacked and decide to not fight no matter what
as a matter of being a pacifist, then disregard my previous comment.
393:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 09:33:47
>>392
Scary... A country like that is preaching around the world that their political system called democracy is superior so every country should follow suit...
I'm really lucky to have been born in Japan.
394:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 09:36:06
>>392
URLﾘﾝｸ(2.bp.blogspot.com)
395:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 09:53:18
Hm. Americans are assaulted by peers when walking in their own country and by muslims when traveling overseas.
Being American seems to be rough and tough.
Far be it from me to say what they should do, but it might be worth considering for US to follow example of Canada.
396:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 10:06:15
>>393
I can't agree more! There are many people who are complaining their circumstances.
They should know their distance.
397:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 10:23:06
It is very scary to fight against men in western countries because people there are generally big and physically strong.
Well, I personaly admire such a brave person as don't mind being injured in order to help the weak.
I would intervine and stop them when I see here men abusing girls or animals.
398:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 11:52:21
This thread is always consumed faster while I am sleeping.
399:片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A
09/02/21 12:05:21
Diamond rocks are all over around Jesus Christ [ who is your true Savior ].
So go back to Him.
Surrender to Him.
400:Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s
09/02/21 12:11:36
>>393
It is like that all over the world, man. Actually, us Americans have it really
easy compared to many other places in the world. I hear there have been quite a
few racial genocides in Africa within the past decade or so.
I have a friend who used to live in the country of Haiti. One day he was in the
car driving to his grandparent's home or something when suddenly the car in front
of his was pulled over by two men with assault rifles. They forced the lady out of
the car, one of them smashed her teeth in with his weapon, took her car, and left
her on the street. It really is a dangerous world outside of our nice, rich little
bubbles.
401:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/02/21 12:13:45
Test
402:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 12:18:40
>>392
DQN refers to immature school thug/gangsta type of people, or just
immature grownups who still have that kind of mentality after
graduating from school. That sort of people...
They like to talk about their real fight experience and whatnot and how they
can beat someone up.
It has nothing to do with pacifism. Not that I think you are one of those people
though, I just exxplained what DQN is.
403:片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A
09/02/21 12:22:20
It is like that all over the world, man.
Actually, you Americans have it really easy
compared to many other places in the world.
I know there have been quite a few racial genocides in Africa within the past decade or so.
You have a friend who used to live in the country of Haiti.
One day he was in the car driving to his grandparent's home or something
when suddenly the car in front of his was pulled over by two men with assault rifles.
They forced the lady out of the car,
one of them smashed her teeth in with his weapon, took her car, and left her on the street.
It really is a dangerous world outside of your nice, rich little bubbles.
404:片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A
09/02/21 12:24:18
Your American world is dangerous as well.
In the past decade or so, there were too many gun firings at schools or on streets.
405:片岡数吉 ◆X8bUvIiQ1A
09/02/21 12:26:11
Dokyuns are rascals who play their living.
406:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 12:27:59
>>401
Hi, アメリカ人. I'm glad your test post was accepted.
But this doesn't mean your next post will also succeed, is it?
407:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/02/21 12:31:45
Haha I can post using my neighbor's wifi connection and my iPod touch!
Typing is pretty easy so this is ten times easier then getting a damn proxy
to work.
Regarding violence in America I can only talk about my personal
experiences. Around my school some kids have been mugged
but they're leaving late after sports practices. My school once had
a problem where someone kept pretending to be a student and stole
a lot of stuff. The worst was when during class the principle announced
there was an escaped convict in the area.
I think USC is my top choice then NYU, Columbia and Cornell University.
I got 2 letters yesterday, one saying I got accepted to RIT(decent school)
and a letter from WPI(I was excepted a few weeks ago) saying I got
60grand in merit scholarship over 4 years. That's a really good offer
but WPI is far and away my last choice...
408:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 13:08:05
neighbors wifi connection? are you hijacking someone's internets?
409:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 13:12:53
>>407
I've already known that you're a smart boy before I read 407.
It can be said that ou are deserved to being offered merit scholarship, because
there are not so many people who can write and express their own opinion as well as you,
considering you're still in your teens.
I'm pround of there being such a competent English speaker like you here!
410:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 14:27:34
Emergency news.
Three suspects who killed an anti Russian government journalist were sentensed they were innocent.
411:Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE
09/02/21 14:38:01
>>380
No offense to Tennessean but yeah you're right he sounds stupid (and I'm American). It's pretty easy to see what he's trying to say about himself.
>>407
( ・ω・) That's cool! I applied to Cornell as well. However, I don't think I will end up going there. I always hear bad things about how competitive it is. I wonder if that's true.
412:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/02/21 16:18:20
>>411
Yea plus Cornell has a huge Greek scene which I'm not really into.
What are you interested in studying?
I'd like to direct those who have known me for longer to this article
www.japanprobe.com/?p=8904
413:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 17:32:16
Wow, he's an epic hentai.
414:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 17:35:30
Even though アメリカ人 also has a fetish toward panties, that Japanese povert is overwhelming
against him.
He has as many as thousand panties. (lady's only)
415:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 17:58:48
>>413
At the end of the day and at this moment in time, I personally feel that, with all due respect, it’s not epic.
416:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 18:18:55
>>415
I bet you have 3200 panties to sniff at hand.
417:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 19:02:48
>>411
Since you mentioned Emily first, can I ask your take on Emily?
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
Mine? Of course it's BS.
418:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 19:07:20
>>417
So she's the Emily you've been talking about.
For some reason I sensed a certain amount of emoness in her.
I'd hit that nonetheless though.
419:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 19:33:21
>>418
You can buy her DVD to support her. Don't know if that would help her save up for school,
but pretty sure it's gonna be one of the rarest DVDs since it'll probably be discontinued soon.
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
420:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 19:40:13
>>417
Some people seem to talk about donations for her university tuition out of frustration.
I think Emily is feeling scared and on the brink of bankruptcy.
It's time for Emily lovers to save her!
421:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 19:54:57
When I saw her movie of Pikachu bread, I was somehow attracted by her cute face and charisma.
But it is not until I pushed the link on above posts that I realized she has lost her charm.
422:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 19:56:34
アメリカ人 might pass on her panties but Tennessean will beat the crap out of them anyway.
423:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 20:09:48
>>422
Who do you imply by them?
424:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 20:17:35
>>423
Poeple making Emily feel scared and on the brink of whatever.
425:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 20:16:28
>>419
Slut.
...ah, I just realized this strange thing.
When I hear the word "slut" in English, it's a very very strong word and sounds extremely rude.
I'd never say it in real life unless she's cheating on me or something.
But I don't think the Japanese equivalents such as だらしない女 and あばずれ are as offensive.
Certainly I wouldn't say those words either in a normal situation, but they could be used as a joke if she's your friend.
The same goes for some other offensive words.
Calling someone a "racist" sounds extremely offensive, but 人種差別主義者 sounds less offensive to me for some reason.
Come to think of it, I just found there are more striking examples.
Who cares if a person is 無神論者 or 不可知論者?
I suspect some Japanese adults don't know what those words mean,
but it seems words "atheist" and "agnostic" could be sometimes provocative, which is surprising if said in Japanese.
You call me a sexist? I take it as an offense.
You call me a 男女差..., um, I don't even know what the Japanese equivalent of "sexist"!
Is 男女差別主義者 a word?? I don't know.
Actually I looked in my dictionary and found 性差別主義者 is the proper term.
I don't think I heard this word more than twice in real life.
Could you let me know your opinion? I appreciate comments from both Japanese and people of different cultures.
426:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 20:17:36
>>419
Slut.
...ah, I just realized this strange thing.
When I hear the word "slut" in English, it's a very very strong word and sounds extremely rude.
I'd never say it in real life unless she's cheating on me or something.
But I don't think the Japanese equivalents such as だらしない女 and あばずれ are as offensive.
Certainly I wouldn't say those words either in a normal situation, but they could be used as a joke if she's your friend.
The same goes for some other offensive words.
Calling someone a "racist" sounds extremely offensive, but 人種差別主義者 sounds less offensive to me for some reason.
Come to think of it, I just found there are more striking examples.
Who cares if a person is 無神論者 or 不可知論者?
I suspect some Japanese adults don't know what those words mean,
but it seems words "atheist" and "agnostic" could be sometimes provocative, which is surprising if said in Japanese.
You call me a sexist? I take it as an offense.
You call me a 男女差..., um, I don't even know what the Japanese equivalent of "sexist"!
Is 男女差別主義者 a word?? I don't know.
Actually I looked in my dictionary and found 性差別主義者 is the proper term.
I don't think I heard this word more than twice in real life.
Could you let me know your opinion? I appreciate comments from both Japanese and people of different cultures.
427:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 20:24:24
What. When I tried to post >>425, it took forever to appear in this thread, and now I see the exact same post in >>426.
Sorry about that. I don't know what's going on and can't be sure if this too would be a double post...
428:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 20:25:56
I saw "7pounds"that was good but I think "7pounds"are not great than Hancock.and...Will Smith rulez!!!
429:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 22:05:55
>>426
When I hear the word ‘人種差別主義者’, I have the impression that he is an extreme racist, who believes his race is
superior to any other race.
He wouldn't distort his idea no mater what happened to him or no matter how logical persuasion he would receive.
It seems that I cherish a negative image on the word, unlike you.
As to the words 無神論者 and 不可知論者, I sometimes hear the former one though I never say or hear it in daily conversation.
When I read books a bit related to philosophy, I came across the latter one. Its meaning is so complicated and sophisticated that I couldn't grasp it though.
性差別主義者・・ I'm not familiar with the word either.
This word sounds like a little strange, probably because I seldom hear this.
Well, these are all my arbitrary opinion, so please don't take them seriously.
430:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 22:23:30
I wish Tennessean won't be a future Christopher Newsome and
Shanon Christian.
431:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 22:33:43
>>425
I really can't tell if any right word in japanese, for this english word "slut" (I mean, in the daily conversation level).
だらしない女 or あばずれ might be that, but still they aren't really used in usual talk, at least I don't use them.
Probably, some other words like... ehm.. don't ask me what the exact expressions they are.. anyway, you say slut could be used
for friends, not in the insulting way but japanese version expressions might not be used the same way.
For you, "racist" sounds strong and 人種差別主義者 doesn't much, I see.. interesting to me. Since both do sound
very strong to me, just the sound of 人種差別主義者 "jinshu sabetsu shugisha" is too long and not being used
as a name..like, "Hey, you racist. ..." but "おい、人種差別主義者！" sounds a bit too much and odd. I have seen it was said
like "レイシスト", again some people might use the kanji version but i have never seen it.
（つづく）
432:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 22:34:25
（つづき）
I think, many many people in Japan are not very much religious (I am one of them). As you know, people go to the shrine on
the new years day. And they go to the temple in summer (Bon season in August), and they say Merry Christmas
in december... And still, these are now like the events in year, still the bon season praying could be a bit serious
though.
So, these words atheist and agnostic, or 無神論者 and 不可知論者 don't give me any feeling as the words.
Maybe, could sound strong and provocative for some religious people.
Literally, yes 男女差別主義者 is a right word but I understand you have heard it not too often in real life.
As the impression for me, only some "feminists" sometimes yell this word out loud on some media but actually,
it doesn't appear to me the exact 男女差別 but simply the differences between men and women. (You know, often
these two definitions get mixed)
Well, the language wise, again "男女差別主義者 danjo sabetsu shugisha" sounds too long and not really used
in the daily talk.
I might be wrong, but this is my opinion. I hope it makes sense for you.
433:425
09/02/21 22:37:10
>>429
I think we rarely if ever call others 人種差別主義者 even when they're making shockingly racist comments which, if translated in English, would make English speakers piss in their pants.
I just couldn't think of a realistic situation in which I'd use that word to describe or refer to a person.
As for technical terms in European philosophy, I guess the Japanese language doesn't help you grasp concepts at all.
It's like you can't explain well the philosophy of Confucianism in English or other European languages.
>性差別主義者・・ I'm not familiar with the word either.
So I'm not the only one. I felt relieved to hear that.
434:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 22:41:30
I wish Tennessean won't be a future Christopher Newsome and
Channon Christian.
435:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 22:47:40
I guess 女性差別主義者 is more popular word.
性差別主義者 sounds square and formal.
436:425
09/02/21 22:49:49
>>431
"You racist!" sounds strong to me, and 「レイシスト！」is rather funny to hear.
I guess 人種差別主義者 is too formal or "heavy," not an ad hominem label.
I don't know how I can offend others by claiming they have a racist view in Japanese.
Can you do that?? I guess not. This is also the case with 性差別主義者, I think.
As for religion, I don't think many religious Japanese know what 不可知論者 means.
So it doesn't seem to me whether we're religious or not is the crux.
437:425
09/02/21 22:50:52
>>435
Obviously, the word 女性差別主義者 is itself sexist.
438:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 22:57:45
>>437
Yes.
I don't know why 女性差別主義者(more wordy word) become
more familiar. I suppose 女性差別主義者 is more explicit and plain
than 性差別主義者 which souds like study word.
439:425
09/02/21 22:59:40
>>438
I mean, 女性差別主義者 is like using 黒人差別主義者 instead of 人種差別主義者.
Did you get it?
440:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 23:03:07
Sexist(性差別主義者) is generally regared as
woman discriminator even though it can apply to both sexes.
I think that's another reason.
Is it another sexist syndrome?
441:425
09/02/21 23:05:27
>>440
I think it's some politically correct nonsense, but 女性差別主義者 sounds as awkward to me as 黒人差別主義者.
442:431
09/02/21 23:09:52
>>436
Not hearing those expressions in the daily talk is one thing, and offending others by calling them with those
names is another thing, I guess.
I don't really have an idea how to offend them by what "name" I could call them with, in japanese.
Not only 人種差別主義者 and 性差別主義者 but all wises.
"あなたは女性差別主義者ですね" might work, but "この女性差別主義者！"sounds a bit.. how to say.. odd.
I might bite my tongue.
About 「レイシスト」, I only have "seen" the text, not "heard" as the sound when it was said. So, you might be right,
it could sound funny. Maybe, not as natural said (sound wise) as english one.
443:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 23:16:58
>>437
In reality racist is used to describe white people's racism too.
Maybe sexist is the same.
But sexist and racist are more general and comprehensive words,
or politically correct words.
Sexist is applicable to any situations but it may be inconvenient
to accuse the concrete sitiation of men's discrimination against women.
It can dillute woman's intention.
That is probably why 女性差別主義 is more popular in Japan.
By the way, 逆差別reverse discrimination is used to mean
男性差別主義. I've never heard of 男性差別主義(者).
We should create new word 男性差別主義者.
444:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 23:18:46
Name calling is the last resort for unintelligent people when they cannot discuss a topic in depth,
whichever side they take. Each one alone desn't mean much. However, labeling serves a great sorting
purpose sometimes and is totally sufficient if any other possible explanations or persuations don't really work, I think.
445:425
09/02/21 23:20:40
>>442
Hrm. You reminded me of this American who said American English is best when it comes to swearing.
He taught me "asshole" and "douche bag" are synonyms in American English, which I though was very strange.
Don't you think they should be antonyms? A hole and something to be put in to an opening next to the hole in question.
446:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 23:28:20
Racialist is a new word for racist to hike "racist" position.
Mr.David Duke won't be offended by being called racialist.
Or Racism instead of Racial realism.
Mr.Jared Taylor is famous for his racial realism.
In addition is it true that racist and racism are strange words
linguistically?
I heard adjective "racial" with "ist" or "ism" was correct.
noun "race" and "ist" or "ism" is incorrect.
447:425
09/02/21 23:28:57
>>443
My stupid brain is going to explode. Argh!
Ok, I'm done. So you mean a woman uses 女性差別主義 because she differentiates discrimination against one sex to THE other and ignore homosexual persons and such?
How not sexist she is!
448:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 23:29:12
No.
Racial Realism instead of racism.
449:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 23:31:07
homosexual is another sex?
I've not reached that point.
450:425
09/02/21 23:35:46
>>446
I guess if a linguistic theory claims a popular word used by native speakers is WRONG, then it's messed up already.
What native speakers say is correct, not the other way around.
I'm not saying descriptive grammar is superior to prescriptive one, but if a set of prescriptive rules don't much the vernacular, it's bulls-, er, not accurate, if you ask me.
451:425
09/02/21 23:38:16
>>449
Sorry, homosexual isn't the right word. But there are many who has XXY genes or something, not XY (male) nor XX (female).
I forgot what it is called. But there're more such people than you expect, I guess.
452:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 23:43:00
Economist is the same structure with Racist.
So I don't know whether criticism of word "racist" is
right in the first place.
But I have an impression that racialist sounds more right with
respects to meaning and structure.
453:425
09/02/21 23:43:13
Ah, I can't write proper English any more lol.
Maybe I need to go to bed.
Thanks for your comments. I'll come back to this thread later.
I'm still looking forward to more opinions and comments.
Cheers,
454:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 23:51:55
Anyone know what this kind of people >>451 are called?
I knew it but can't remember.
455:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 23:54:05
HaHa. Sexist is one of the examples.
I didn't notice in face of them.
Sexualist sounds like person who is confident in
sexuality to me.
Sexualist relly exists and seem to mean research stuff though.
456:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 23:56:20
>>455
By exists, do you mean sexualist is a word?
457:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/21 23:57:31
Androgynous, probably.
458:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:02:04
>>454
クラインフィルター症候群
459:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:03:10
>>457
I finally found it while googling around. It's Klinefelter's syndrome or simply XYY syndrome.
Thanks anyway.
By the way, I checked the article about Androgyny on Wikipedia and there's a link to "anime" in the See Also section. Go figure.
URLﾘﾝｸ(en.wikipedia.org)
460:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:03:15
>>456
Word "sexualist" exists and it does't mean someone with
sexuality.
citation : One who classifies plants by the sexual method of Linnæus.
It seems to be very academic word so I don't know what common native speakers
imagine when they hear it.
461:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:03:24
oops, クラインフェルター症候群 is correct
462:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:04:16
>>458
Yes, that's it. Thanks. I didn't know it's called the same way in Japanese.
463:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:09:10
>>460
I see. So it's a word. I've never heard of that.
>>458,459
Same difference... Would it be wrong if I answered クラインフ「ィ」ルター in an final exam of medical class?
464:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:10:06
>>462
I didn't know the term either, but since I have knoledge about biology, I searched what the person
who has XXY is called out of curiosity.
By the way, 三毛猫 is likely to have XXY chromosome.
465:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:15:29
XXX classified uncut uncensored movies are my favorite as well.
466:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:15:30
>>464
IIRC, male 三毛 is very rare. I have seen a male 三毛猫 in person though.
467:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:16:38
>>463
It's up to your professor.
But it would cause conflicts among him and students if he regarded it wrong.
468:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:26:21
>>466
I couldn't make out what ⅡRC suggests and I looked it up on Wiktionary.
I've forgotten the mechanism but certainly male 三毛 is said to be rare.
I'm now interested in why you know this.
469:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:33:48
>>468
Um, which do you want to know; why I know the acronym or why I know 三毛 trivia?
IIRC is a very frequent abbreviation so I don't know when and where I picked it up.
As for 三毛, I love cats and used to go to ねこたま in 二子玉川 when I lived in Kanagawa.
470:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:36:29
Ah, you may not know ねこたま.
It's a cat theme park where you can see and cuddle all kinds of kittens.
I think I heard of male 三毛 there.
471:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:43:49
>>469
Wow, I just saw the ねこたま while reading articles about 三毛猫 just now!
I understand why you've seen male 三毛猫.
Well, the fact that you are cats' lover made me feel happy because I like cats and animals very much.
I keep cats in my house.
Um, it seems impossible to keep my eyes open..
Good night!
PS. I made a mistake about ミケネコ.
One has XXY chrosome is male, and that's why male ミケネコ is rare.orz
472:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:45:31
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
He is the sexualist(sexualest)!
He is sexier than Rod Stuart and sing better than Robert Plant.
Even イギリス人 admitted!
And he is the pioneer of drug addiction trend
and the pioneer of DQN parents naming childer strange names.
His son is 美勇士(ミュージ), which comes from "music"ミュージック.
Overmore he was born with a silver spoon and succeeded his
family business.
473:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:47:00
eh,, shit
Im so glad. I passed Eiken(Japanese English approval)
yes I passed, only written exam...
I know Im good at English. My score on the test is better than any other student in my school
Yes...
except for FUCKING LISTENING test
I have to goto take an interview of “Eiken英検” tomorrow moning
I guess I never will have a good sleep tonight
474:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:50:27
>>471
Sweet dream.
475:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 00:51:00
Good taste, bro. How do you know all these weird musicians from the 70s and 80s.
476:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 01:00:17
Is it possible to connect to Internet and browse websites with i-pod touch?
477:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 01:02:05
>>476
I take it that you got b& from Google.
478:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 01:09:00
>>473
I've never taken the test in question, but I always thought listening sections are generally the easiest in standardized tests.
You're not required to know difficult vocabulary or complex grammar rules.
Maybe, didn't you study pronunciation?
479:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 01:20:40
>>477
What's b&? If you mean it's easy to find an answer by googling,
I won't because I'm lazy.
アメリカ人 worte he accessrd to 2ch with i-pod touch.
I know i-phone have internet access function but i-pod touch, too?
アメリカ人 mentioned there's a possibility that he and the administrator
of 4chan goes to the same university if he goes NY university.
I wrote before that the leading actor, Zack? of high school musical
will enroll in USC according to Japan's wikipedia article, but maybe he hasn't
read my post.
To think he's an avid fan of High School Musical and dances to the video
at least twice a day, he'll choose to go to USC.
How can a boy like Zack who must be extremely busy with acting jobs achieve good enough
academic record to apply for USC, which is a very good uni?
Is it all about recommendation letter, not GPA?
480:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 01:28:44
>>479
I guess it's a different thing than laziness.
As for b&, read it aloud already. Are you that lazy?
481:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 01:39:14
>>480
Ahh, band, which is bandwith.
So you can't make a phone call with i-pod touch but it provides
internet access.
i-pod: music player
i-phone: music player + cell phone + internet access
i-pod touch:music player + internet access
so i-pod touch is kind of like inbetween function-wise.
482:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 01:40:48
And アメリカ人 is not only a panty thief but also a bandwith thief.
Great!
483:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 01:43:04
>>481
...you can browse your usual websites through wifi or something on ipod touch.
B& means, well, banned.
484:Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE
09/02/22 02:02:25
>>412
( ・ω・) I am going to be studying Physics. What about you?
>>417
I find her utterly annoying and unbearable. I don't really understand why anyone is attracted to her. She may be attractive but I cannot see it. She is so annoying that it causes me to see her as ugly.
485:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 02:04:32
>>484
>I don't really understand why anyone is attracted to her. She may be attractive
I always though the definition of "attractive" is that to cause someone attracted.
486:Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE
09/02/22 02:09:32
>>485
It is; however, the term "attractive" used in regard to a man or woman usually focuses on their appearance alone. A beautiful girl would be considered attractive.
Some of it may be subconsciously determined by her personality, but the main reason is her appearance.
( ・ω・) Please let me know if I need to clarify further.
487:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 02:12:05
>>486
Ah, so a guy could be attracted by an ugly bitch, but she's never attractive in the usual sense, right?
488:Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE
09/02/22 02:35:46
>>487
Exactly. He may PERSONALLY find her attractive but when some random person is describing her they would not call her attractive because she is ugly.
489:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 02:38:05
>>483
I see. i-pod touch give you web browsing.
And Banned. Thanks. I'm not banned from google.
If It's not the matter of laziness, what's that?
Maybe I'm an idiot. I have to admit I don't like sorting out websites
on a search result pages to find the best website that matches what
I'm looking for.
>>484
Apply for Calitech or MIT. Are they too difficult?
Japanese people in general have good and positive views on Western people,
because of the popularity of Hollywood actors and singers. That's why Japan is a heaven
for American losers who have no skills other than teaching English in Japan.
Emily is figure is very good. Nice boobs and her speaking Japanese
is an advantage to draw attentions of Japanese men. Not many foreigners
speak English as good as her. That's appealing to Japanese men, too.
But if she's ugly inside, then the ugly side of her personality will surface
bit by bit. Maybe e-begging is the first step, although it was done
in English so people comenting on her blog might not know the fact that
she's asking for money. I don't know.
Let's face it. She has attractive body, beautiful face.
I want to screw her although she's not a good girl to get married with or go out with, though.
I don't know much about her inside but she's beautiful at least in terms
of appearance.
490:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 02:39:13
>>488
Thanks for the lucid explanation!
491:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 02:42:37
>>486
Excuse me cutting in.
So, "be attracted" is subjective, and "attractive" is objective?
Example, some people could be attracted to this girl who looks like a gorilla, but she is not attractive.
Is this right?
492:491
09/02/22 02:44:46
oops, sorry..the answer was there already before I posted.
493:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 02:48:11
>>478
yep I didn't it
when English class in my school our teacher makes us practice of pronounce, I often cut or sleeping lol
494:Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE
09/02/22 02:58:08
>>489
I did not apply to Caltech. I did apply to MIT though. Caltech is a very small school so that makes it less appealing to me.
495:電子工学者
09/02/22 03:30:36
>>494
I almost applied to Caltech and MIT, but I didn't really have the grades to make it in or get scholarships so I decided against it.
Ah well. Enough people have heard of the University of Texas to make a degree from there worthwhile, right?
Right?
496:Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE
09/02/22 03:42:38
>>495
Well as for prestige, undergraduate really doesn't matter anyways. University of Texas is a great school though! You will learn a lot there I think.
497:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 03:52:04
>>494
Calitech only has 900 students in total but they are all excellent.
MIT has more students but more students mean some not so good students can be seen
among total number of students.
So on average, the quality of students is better in Calitech. That's what
I read somewhere.
What about Stanford?
498:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/02/22 04:02:41
>>479
Yup, Im borrowing my neighbor's wifi to post with my iPod touch's full browser capabilities.
Sorry for not answering your post before! USC is known for its film school so I'm sure the actor's
experience is a huge advantage on his application. Plus they get bragging rights if he goes there.
For the record I hate high school musical, much to the dismay of my host sister (she must have
8 posters in her room of just "Zack").
>>484
Nice. I liked the physics class I took last year but not enough to take the AP level ones.
I want to major in Computer Science with a dual minor in Scientology/Scatology.
I was reading some of the previous posts about labels and saw atheist/agnostic mentioned
and that they aren't commonly used. In the US they are used fairly often, mostly because
there is a huge stigma against atheists. In my literature class we've been discuss the morals
(or lack of) of the character Meursault in Albert Camus' The Stranger. My teacher keeps linking
immoralism and atheism, much to the ire of myself and another classmate. Separation of church
and state? I don't think so.
499:電子工学者
09/02/22 06:30:02
>>498
>Scientology/Scatology
うはｗ
By the way, I'm going to Nagoya in the fall for research purposes. What is the general opinion of Nagoya?
I've heard some people (mostly JETs, although I take everything they say with a grain of salt) express a rather low opinion of Nagoya, but I fail to see why.
500:MCAkio
09/02/22 06:43:28
>>496
UT? Really?
NO, if you want to study english, go to University of Georgia or Georgia Tech.
501:Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE
09/02/22 07:45:54
>>497
Caltech students overall are indeed more academically excellent; however, I heard that MIT realized that students who were purely academic did poorly in the school.
I'm also applying to Stanford! They have a very good Physics program as well. My number one choice is Princeton though. Their undergraduate Physics program seems to be the best.
>>498
I wanted to become a Computer Scientist as well until I learned more about Physics. I'm the sort of person who has to know and understand the underpinnings of EVERYTHING. w
>>499
wwww Maybe he can teach us the Kusomiso Technique!
>>500
( ・ω・) Huh? University of Texas at Austin is considered one of the "Public Ivy" schools. Am I mixing up schools or something?
University of Georgia is not on the same level as University of Texas. Georgia Tech is highly ranked but I always hear bad things about their engineers so I have no idea what to think about it.
502:電子工学者
09/02/22 08:35:27
>>500
Eh? I'm not studying English. I'm an Americunt, so I speak a good approximation of English.
>>501
I think UT is considered a "Public Ivy," but I'm actually at UT Dallas. I just said UT because
I was pretty sure nobody has ever heard of UT Dallas. It's like the fifth or sixth choice
for a lot of potential engineering majors.
503:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 11:23:43
>>498
If you and Zack are both accepted by USC, your host sister must scream
with excitment and send you her panty or two. You must take photos of him and
send them to her in return. But that can't beat the thrill and pleasure of stealing them.
>>499
You said you are American, then why did you ask about your university?
Just wanted to know your university's reputation from American?
What do you want to know about Nagoya?
Nagoya is the third or fourth largest city so very urbanized.
Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, Yokohama.... I don't know why the JETs have
low opinion about Nagoya, but maybe they just like Tokyo metropolitan
area.
As you may know two of three Japanese Nobel Prize winners last year
studied at Nagoya university.
>>501
You know Kusomiso Technique. Amazed.
504:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 11:36:35
>>503
I wasn't really asking a question. It was more of a joke implying that
nobody has ever heard of the university that I go to. Apparently, though
I was wrong.
Also, even a lot of people in the West know about Kusomiso Technique.
古いネタですから。
505:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 14:09:09
Moderate excersise is good for your health.
Are you doing some excersise every day ?
In my case, strolling around nearby park at night is my routine excersise.
506:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 15:51:31
I do sit-ups and push-ups.
I took online karate master course.
I'll challenge Tennessean to a sumo bout.
507:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 17:50:32
Do you think Heroes of Might and Magic is interesting?
Is there anyone who palyed the game before?
508:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 18:00:24
never
509:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 18:46:12
>>506
It was my first time that I knew there's a site we can practice Karate online.
How did you do that?
I guess that a Karate teacher explain you how to kick or punch in the display, and you imitate the way he perfome.
Am I right?
510:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 18:47:04
>>508
I find the graphic of the game really beautiful.
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.4gamer.net)
I like turn-based strategy games very much.
So if the storyline of this game is sophisticated, I want to give it a try!
511:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 19:15:27
>>509
It's just a joke.
There was that kind of joke in manzai or Yoshimoto Shinkigeki.
「いてもうたろか、われ。俺は空手の黒帯だぞ、コラ。通信教育だけどな。」
I arranged this joke to fit Internet age. That is, online Karate course.
512:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 19:27:03
>>507
I guess it takes a good CPU and graphic card to play the game.
Or else, the picture doesn't run smoothly.
What's your PC's spec? You self-made your PC?
513:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 23:25:19
Does these posts >>502 >>500 mean some of us write proper English so it's not always easy to spot native speakers?
I always thought it was a cinch for native speakers to put their fingers on non-native-ish errors.
And this makes me wonder: Have you ever met a non-native speaker of your mother tongue who would pass for a native speaker when s/he writes a long passage?
I know everyone can speak fairly well with some accent reduction training.
Besides, even native speakers make a ton of errors when speaking.
Actually there're a bunch of youtube videos of faking native speakers of virtually any major language.
But I was thinking you could never get away with errors in your written text;
literate native speakers make far fewer errors in their writings than in speech, so your unnatural word choices and idiosyncratic errors do stick out if made any.
My English skills are limited and I can't tell who writes native-like posts,
but I do know some of posters in here have a better command of English than me (Thank you, advanced learners! I learned a lot from you.).
Do they write flawlessly? If so, it's amazing. I've never seen a Japanese learner having such high level writing skills.
514:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 23:31:02
Ah, by "Japanese learner" in the last line of >>513, I mean a person who is learning the Japanese language as a foreign language.
Sorry, it was confusing.
515:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 00:24:20
There are so many versions of this song out there, but this is my fave.<3
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
What's your theme song today, folks?
516:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 00:38:08
>>515
Here's my today's tune:
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
By the way, are you the uploader?
517:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 01:00:03
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
My theme song yesterday was this.
518:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 01:00:54
>>516
No, it's not me, that song just popped up into my mind for some reason.
I liked your pick. Do you like badass girls, or you just like the song?
519:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 01:03:41
>>517
You look good in there.
520:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 01:13:51
>>518
It's Superhuman by Modern Day Zero, and I like the band.
As for girls, I like all sorts of good looking females. Dominatrices are fine too.
When I run into the cool vid, I didn't know the anime series shown in the vid, and it made me give it a shot.
I watched the first few eps of its English dub somewhere on the internet, and now I have a copy of DVD on my HD.
If you don't mind anime and stuff, I recommend it.
521:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 01:23:33
I forgot to mention the title. The series is Black Lagoon. All characters including the female protagonist are supposed to be speaking English in the show,
and, in my humble opinion, their voice acting is pretty good.
Ah, and I wanted to say "When I ran across the vid,". Sorry, I always make stupid errors here and there.
522:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 01:44:03
>>521
I watch some anime, so I'll try it. Thanks. Maybe I can find those eps on youtube, right?
I hope the English is not that hard for me to follow.
BTW, I'd be interested to know how English-dubbed versions sound to native speakers of English.
Lot's of Japanese-dubbed movies sound sort of odd, as their Japanese is sometimes superficial.
I like them that way, but I'm curious if it's the same as with English.
523:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 02:21:03
>>522
I think you can find all eps on some streaming site if you google the title.
If you don't mind it, I'm pretty sure you can torrent 'em all.
I do recommend you buy DVDs if you like it though.
As for English in the show, it's pretty easy. Pronunciation is clear and they don't use big words.
Probably you'll pick up new words/phrases that you're not familiar with so it's a good way to hone your English skills, if you ask me.
524:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 02:21:32
Continuation to >>523
I don't watch anime in Japanese a lot so I'm not sure if English dubs are better in general.
But, from my own experience, I can tell you old series most likely suck and new, popular ones are generally good.
They often hire famous voice actors who voices in foreign movies, tv ads, and whatnot for popular anime.
If you prefer more easy-to-localize shows, you're in luck. Black Lagoon is a good example: Charactors are all supposed to be speaking English.
Of course, you may end up hearing squeeky voices if you like so called moe anime and stuff.
But still, even dubs of moe-ish shows are sometimes very good, if not better than the original Japanese dubs.
Anyway, you can try some eps of each series you have watched in Japanese so you can see if English is shit or not.
525:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 02:24:22
Argh! I can't post a longer comment. It took forever to appear or I'll get an error.
What's wrong? It seems 2ch needs some fix.
526:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 02:26:27
Sorry, I meant "I takes forever." Seems it's me that needs a fix... Whatever.
527:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/02/23 02:37:49
Oh man, Black Lagoon is one of my favorite animes. As for dubs, I really liked the dubbing in
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (that is also one of my all time favorites).
>>513
As in fluent non native speakers? There are plenty of fluent non native speakers at my school
(most of them Chinese expats) who write and speak perfectly. Remeber though, being able to write
well is distinctive from being a fluent writer. Some of you here are good enough to get away with it as well,
such as yourself. The only thing quirky I noticed was your usage of there're. While it's used in speech
it looks very odd in writing and I would suggest not using the contraction. If anything though that could
be a mistake a native speaker would make as well.
>>507
Oh man that get brings back memories. I use to play it at friends house all the time although
it must have been an older version because the graphics were terrible lol.
My song for today is anything by "The National". I went on YouTube but I couldn't
decide on one single song to pick lol. "Fake Empire" is their most popular song though
so if you're interested I'd search for that one first.
528:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 02:52:14
>>527
Thanks for your detailed commet.
>Remeber though, being able to write well is distinctive from being a fluent writer.
Being a fluent writer is a toll order for me...
>The only thing quirky I noticed was your usage of there're.
I always use the contraction whenever I'm in sort of speaking mode.
For some reason, sometimes I can't help but write the way I speak. Apparently that's why I can't do without a spell checker.
I'm terrible when it comes to spelling. (terrable? terrible? Well, firefox says "terrable" is rediculous... oh wait.)
I'll write more in the next post. Somehow longer posts won't appear.
529:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 03:04:01
Continuation to >>528
Yes! Black Lagoon is awesome.
I think Haruhi is one of good examples of excellent English dubs of moe-ish anime.
The voice action of Kyon, Haruhi, and many other casts are convincing to me.
Though it's not my kind of anime, I picked up lots of vocab from the show.
I guess popular in US = at least torelable dubs. Am I right?
It seems to me Outraw Star, Trigun, Hellsing, and most of fairly new, popular ones are dubbed very well.
530:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 03:09:55
>>528
Ahhh, what's "toll order"?? I wanted to say "It's a tall order." Spell checkers always fail me when it comes to but-it's-also-a-word kind of typo.
531:Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE
09/02/23 03:14:43
>>503
I am sort of a student of 2ch internet culture. I have been following it since 2004 or so. Same with Futaba.
Please teach me 2ch jokes!
( ・ω・) Is the Yoshinoya rant still well known?
532:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 03:22:29
I didn't like the Haruhi Anime. I liked the manga, though. : )
Lucky star ftw!! It's great <3
kagamin <33
533:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 03:26:46
>>531
Not >>503, but since 2004? I'm a newfag compared to you then.
I've been on 2ch for only a year or so, but I know what the Yoshinoya rant means.
So I guess it could still pop up once in a while in a few threads, but it seems to be obsolete.
So you speak Japanese well enough to be able to follow Futaba.
I must admit sometimes I don't understand their moonspeak even though I'm Japanese.
Which boards are you on?
534:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 03:27:42
>>532
Pedo.
...I like it too.
535:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 03:30:20
Didn't the English voice actress of Haruhi also voice the blue hair protagonist in Lucky Star?
I like her voice acting.
536:Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE
09/02/23 03:44:16
>>533
( ・ω・) My Japanese really isn't very good at all. I have a lot of trouble but I can roughly figure out what a lot of posts mean basically through experience.
Futaba also has images so it's a little easier to follow what's going on if you already know what the image means.
I spend most of my time on may, jun and some of the other neta boards.
I'm not surprised the Yoshinoya rant is obsolete. It is extremely old. I wonder if there is any new popular kopipe that I don't know about.
537:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 04:04:55
>>536
>I can roughly figure out what a lot of posts mean basically through experience.
That's impressing. I used to occasionally browse jun, may and others,
but my ISP got b& from Futaba so I fled to 4chan because I didn't have much trouble understanding English.
I think you're learning Japanese in a natural way. I wouldn't be surprised if you eventually achieve native-like fluency.
Well, in my case, /b/ significantly lowered my IQ and /a/ has been hurting my grammar for ages though.
Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with 2ch memes. I have tons of 4chan pasta on my HD, but to me, remembering 2ch memes does more harm than good.
Hmm... In retrospect, maybe I shouldn't have saved 4chan pasta either.
They're funny but usually stupid and always contain a dash of grammatical errors thrown in for good measure.
538:Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE
09/02/23 04:12:49
>>537
I am a long time 4chan user as well except now 4chan is really lame. orz
If you are interested in 4chan kopipe please visit this site: URLﾘﾝｸ(halcy.de)
( ・ω・) Why do you say remembering 2ch memes does more harm than good?
539:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 04:25:16
>>538
Japanese is my mother tongue and if I remembered a meme, maybe I'd blurt it out without thinking.
You know, memes always have some stupidity in them.
If I say something strange in English, it'd be ok because all I need to say is "Ah, maybe I said something wrong? Sorry if I may have offended you. It's my second language after all..."
But I wouldn't be able to get away with it if I said something awkward.
Memes are memes for a reason. They're catchy. I can see myself saying a meme or two out of habit without realizing it.
540:電子工学者
09/02/23 04:26:58
>>533
Remembering 2ch memes is pretty bad if you want to actually learn
Japanese. After all, most 2ch jokes, in my experience, are based on
improper usage of kanji and other intentional (or maybe unintentional)
errors.
One that I see that still pops up a lot is the whole
「Xけど何か質問ある？」thing. Sometimes you see equivalents on Western
*chans, but you see it a lot in in news4vip. By the way, I don't
endorse hanging around there; it'll affect your Japanese and your
intelligence in many more ways than memorising old neta ever will.
541:電子工学者
09/02/23 04:28:10
Oops, meant to reply to >>538.
I really need to put on my glasses before posting...
542:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 04:29:20
And thank you for the link. 4chan has been changing, but I always find it addictive.
What makes you think current 4chan's lame?
543:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 04:40:26
>>540
4chan sure has been hurting my grammar. I can tell you from my own experience.
That said, it greatly helped me improve fluency. I'm not sure if non-native speakers should avoid an idiosyncratic language register.
It's not like I'd say, "eh doesn't afraid of anything" in real life. And like I said, if I did, it wouldn't be that big a problem.
544:Guyjin ◆TTtxpqNzhE
09/02/23 04:47:00
>>540
w Yes, I know most of the Japanese is not exactly correct. I do not use 2ch as a method for learning Japanese really. The main benefit to me is that it causes me to look up kanji which reinforces it in my memory.
For my Japanese studies I usually stick to books and other resources. Thank you for your concern though!
>>542
It is now much more popular and for this reason the quality of posts has gone down a lot.
Long ago everyone knew what kind of posts were considered quality on 4chan, and every one knew the inside jokes. It allowed for a very witty interchange to go on within threads.
Now 4chan's users are from all over the internet and do not particularly subscribe to the "4chan" sense of humor. Now 4chan is like any other site on the internet and has lost that original charm.
There are hardly any new jokes or interesting comments being made; most of the threads are about posting naked girls.
Also the attitude of the users has become unfitting for an anonymous site. Before people would make cool and funny posts hoping to contribute to the website. Now people try to make memorable posts for fame.
I'm not sure why anyone would try to post for attention on an anonymous board, but it seems to happen a lot now.
( ・ω・) Basically I am just bitter that my secret club website of internet nerds has now become mainstream. wwwww
What do you Japanese users enjoy about 4chan? What makes it interesting
545:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 05:11:45
>>544
To me, old 4chan was moving too slow. And I think I find it interesting because it has lots of posts and I can get a reply in a second.
Increasing popularity may have been lowering its quality, but as an outsider, the more people, the better.
English isn't my native tongue, so I can't be a true member of it in the sense that I never fully understand a post as the same level as you do.
So, as long as it keeps certain quality, it's all right. Inside jokes are all well and good, but they sure repel casual users, and most of Japanese aren't hardcore anons, I think.
The numbers of users are the main reason why I don't frequent other *chans too.
Ah, and 4chan, especially /a/, taught me a lot about otaku/weeaboo culture.
It's definitely interesting to know what foreign weeaboos (I know it's kind of a tautology.) think of our subculture.
That being all said, maybe why I frequent 4chan can be boiled down to the fact that I love an image board. Simply, it's fun!
546:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 05:22:48
こんにちは日本人。僕は外人で、日本語が難しいだ。
平仮名と片仮名は易しいと思いました。
あと、もっと漢字を知っていたいだよ。
助けってください。。。。
547:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 05:32:11
>>546
Um, I'm not sure how I can help you in this Chat in English thread.
Maybe fixing your grammar would help a little?
If you want me to do so, let me know.
If you're a native English speaker, it'd be nice to correct errors and/or refine our wording.
I'm >>545 (right above you) and some other long posts about anime/English/4chan/other nonsense.
548:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 05:41:03
Trying to explain to Japanese posters: 4chan is considered the retards of the western internet. They are mostly 14 - 18 year old boys who think repeating catchphrases makes them a comedy genius.
Please to not consider them representative of Western people.
Do you have idiots in your country?
549:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 05:46:00
>>547
Yes I am a native english speaker from England. I'm not sure where else to post this on the site.
I find Japanese grammar to be very confusing at times, but I've only been learning Japanese for a few months, and I am sitting an exam in it in the Summer so I have plenty of time to improve.
I prefer learning kanji to grammar so I should proably shift my attention.
I don't really need help to be honest, I just wanted to say it :)
also: The only 4chan board I ever read is /jp/.
550:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 05:57:35
>>544 >>548
It's pretty much the same with 2ch. Just so many attention seekers over here, too. I'm sure there's a reason or two
for them but most of them don't even post anything remotely interesting nowadays. They just want to inflate their
egos, which is a quite natural desire, but why on 2ch when there's so many other places that can fulfill their needs?
There used to be a lot of funny assholes even with tripcodes, but those days are gone and the majority of anons are
retarded as well. Though, the native speakers here on this board are exempted from that blame, because your posts serve
a legitimate purpose of helping us with English and I, for one, really appreciate it.
551:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 05:59:40
>>548
Thanks, captain obvious.
I'm fully aware that 4chan is a cesspool filled with retarded on the internet.
I do think anyone who consider those faggots are representing Westerners has a fucked up brain.
Our country does have a plethora of idiots such as myself.
I thought it was a common sense that idiots are everywhere.
>>549
Then you're good at picking a language up. Your Japanese seems good for a learner who only spent a few months, though it might be too short to see if it's true.
I've read a blog claiming Japanese learners should learn all 2000 kanji first.
I don't know if it's more efficient, but he only spent a few years but sounds like a native speaker so you might be interested:
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.alljapaneseallthetime.com)
I wish you the best of luck!
552:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 06:07:06
>>551
Your knowledge of websites has impressed me. Even to the point that it validates you assuming a general comment was aimed at you.
Thank you for explaining also the distribution of idiots via the globe. Unfortunatley it seems though your english is not well developed enough
to trace "sarcasm".
If you wish I would honor to re-educate you. ^_^
553:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 06:16:19
>>552
It's not sarcasm, but trolling.
I always make sure that I look retarded when trolling.
554:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 06:22:24
>553
wwww
You are showing your misunderstanding. I know "Troll" is a mythical creature like unicorn or Jesus.
Though from what I know from this troll they are slow and stupid. Retard maybe.
In this case, you are very excellent at trolling sir!
555:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 06:26:53
>>554
Yes. I'm good at trolling. Actually I just got this guy who's kindly educating me.
Trolling is one of the best ways to learn a second language, don't you think?
556:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 06:37:31
>>555
I fail to see how being retard assist in learning language?
Unless maybe American? From what I know retard is common in their culture. Maybe you will fit in, well?
557:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 07:04:22
>>556
Yes, I'd fit perfectly in if it's idiotic culture.
Joking aside, I think acquiring a language is developing a new linguistic persona in the target language.
And to understand a given persona, you need to know other characters as well to compare with.
It's like if you want to be a "good" boy, you need to know how a spoilt brat would behave.
I guess we've been mimicking adults and peers when we were kids as absorbing our first language(s), and through this mimicking, or acting if you will, we naturally gained deep knowledge of personas, culture and so on.
Alas, we adults don't have leeway to mimic other idiots in real life so it seems very hard to learn "good behavior."
I think trolling on the internet is a good approximation of this learning process.
Also, on anonymous fora, it is fairly easy to sock puppet multiple persons with different personas.
If children are "acting" to develop a persona and it is vital to acquire their first language, then it stands reason that the online mimicry is beneficial to adult language learners.
Well, I got bored. Does this make sense to you? If so, that's why. If not, I don't care.
558:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 07:10:40
>>557
Overlong psudo science to excuse acting as a retard. Try harder next time thank you.
559:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 07:15:15
>>558
See? I'm good at trolling.
560:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 07:29:10
>>559
Why do you keep telling me you are retard? I would attempt to I hide I was a retard.
Maybe that is why you try to learn American?
561:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 07:38:58
What do Japanese people think of Americans who love moe and stuff like Lucky Star?
Other Americans see us as disgusting losers but I'm sure you all understand us.
Maybe I should move to Japan?
562:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 07:40:37
>>560
>learn American
Haha.
Anyway, there's no point trying to figure out what others are really thinking in an online discussion.
There's no way to prove I'm the same guy as the idiot you've been talking to.
You can't tell if I'm really Japanese or not. Can you?
You take everything serious and nothing will be obtained.
You ignore everything in here and nothing will be lost.
Everything is meaningless on anonymous boards.
It's that simple.
563:イギリス人
09/02/23 07:41:12
Spent the weekend in London, for about the first time since I was sixteen.
Stayed at Trafalgar Square, visited the National Gallery and Victoria and
Albert Museum. They had a special exhibition on Imperial Russia, which was
pretty interesting, but also a room on Japanese artwork, mainly 浮世絵 but
other things too. There were a few pieces of artwork in the corner by Utagawa
Sadahide which were quite bizarre... like an octopus with a teapot instead of
a head. That was interesting too. And saw the Russian girl from the train again.
Managed to mutilate my feet by walking around too much in new shoes (after the
old ones split in half on the bottom), and almost thought I'd set the fire alarm
off in the hotel after it started sounding the moment I opened my room door. And
had nothing to eat today except for a blueberry muffin. Memorable times.
564:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 07:43:39
>>561
I don't despise guys who fantasize about lolis. But it might be just me.
I fapped to Konata last night by the way.
565:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 08:08:42
>>563
A trip to London isn't complete without visiting the SOHO district.
566:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 08:10:51
>>562
In this world there cannot be two people as expert at being a retard troll.
Truely astonded am I.
567:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 08:25:26
>>561
Although I'm not completely sure about moe, Lucky Star doesn't seem to be one in that category.
I don't really see how those characters could appeal to the audience in that way, but their conversations
contain some wit, I suppose.
568:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 08:26:24
>>566
Ahaha. You're right on the money.
By the way, I learned a new usage of the verb "trace" from your post.
I kind of knew it could be used in that sense, but I wasn't 100% sure.
Now I learned it from clear context. Thank you!
Well, I should get going now. Catch you later.
569:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 08:32:37
I think we just witnessed something magical.
English-speaking Japanese trolling other English-speaking Japanese.
ಥ_ಥ Beautiful....
570:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 08:59:18
>>563
After meeting with the Japanese girl, this time you showed the Russian girl you met on the
train around London? You, lucky dog. I guess you couldn't sleep tight the day before
with your heart pounding. At least you didn't have to be nervous about
speaking in Japanese before you saw her.
On a different note, in that this is about a girl, it's on the same note,
Hirosue Ryoko made appearance on TV this morning. She's now in America to participate
in Academy Award. She is in a movie nominated to the award as a foreign film.
She and other actors and the director is supposed to walk on the red carpet
to particiapte in the ceremony.
571:イギリス人
09/02/23 09:10:03
>>565
Got as far as Soho Square, but didn't go deep down into it. The Japanese
visitors from last Tuesday were telling me about it, though. About the pub
with a rainbow flag in the window, and with men holding hands with other men
and women groping each other. They seemed totally shocked. But a bit amused too.
That reminds me... as I was about to board my train back home today, these
two guys were totally making out and feeling each other up before one got
on the train. I've got nothing against gay couples, but this was just indecent.
Even heterosexual couples don't do things like that.
572:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 09:22:53
>>569
To me, they were just bullshitting over the trivial nonsense, but surely flattering and buttering each other..
573:イギリス人
09/02/23 09:32:00
>>570
Oh ho, I had no idea Okuribito had a nomination! Now there's even
more reason to watch the Oscars - thank you!
574:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 09:39:11
I may understand what the word ‘troll’exactly means at last today.
Do you think my deduction about its meaning is right?
575:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 09:45:56
>>563
How did you know the girl in the train was Russian ?
576:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 09:48:10
>>574
I don't know what your deduction is, but this might help you get a general idea.
URLﾘﾝｸ(en.wikipedia.org)
577:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 09:49:25
>>573
Yeah, that's it. You are still updated on Japanese movie scene.
I'm impressed!
578:イギリス人
09/02/23 09:54:51
>>577
It's one I've been meaning to watch, but just haven't found the time...
has it been released on DVD yet?
>>575
I met her on a different train, back in November 2007. She was travelling
with a colleague, as they both work at Moscow State University and were on
some kind of seminar, but doing sightseeing on the side.
579:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 10:09:00
>>578
Oh, she's the russian girl you memtioned before? What a accidental event!
Did you carry on a conversation with her?
580:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 10:13:05
>>578
Amazon.co.jp says DVD's available from March 18th.
Probably this is the case of the Japanese version and you have to wait longer to get
subbed or dubbed version... I don't know.
Okuribito's promotion website is really heavy now probably because
many people here want to know more about it now.
581:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/23 10:16:23
>>579
I think they planed to see in London.