09/02/15 17:30:06
>>922
>しつこいｗ妄想壁があるなｗ
>>925
>liarをlierと綴るのが恥ずかしいとかいっておいて、妄想「カベ」は恥ずかしくないんですかw
>>926
「かべ」なんて書いてないだろｗ
お前のPCの文字化けか？
これで開き直れるのって凄い面の皮だな。アメリカ人でも恥じ入るぞ。
何人ですか？
942:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 17:30:34
他のが全部俺だと言いたいのか？
それこそ妄想だろ。幼稚文盲野郎はその程度か？
943:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 17:32:52
英語読めればなぜそうなのかわかるだろ。読めないだろうけど。
だいたい幼稚園と文盲だけ何十回繰り返すつもりだよw
で、これはなんなの？嘘つき君w
>>922
>しつこいｗ妄想壁があるなｗ
>>925
>liarをlierと綴るのが恥ずかしいとかいっておいて、妄想「カベ」は恥ずかしくないんですかw
>>926
「かべ」なんて書いてないだろｗ
お前のPCの文字化けか？
944:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 17:34:12
幼稚園児ｗ
もっともっと踊れｗ
遠慮するなｗ
945:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 17:37:01
馬鹿って、こんな事書いても悔し紛れに「踊れ」とか言っとけば「勝ち」だと
思えていいなあw 俺なら２チャン止めるわw
>>926
「かべ」なんて書いてないだろｗ
お前のPCの文字化けか？
それともお前の脳内誤変換かｗ
946:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 17:38:02
文盲＝幼稚園児＝落ちこぼれ
異常な過剰反応のしかたで分かる。
しかも本人の自白付きｗ
lierを指摘されたのがこんなに悔しいとはｗ
いやぁ、悪いことしたなぁｗ
947:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 17:39:03
壁君マジで面白いなw
>>926
「かべ」なんて書いてないだろｗ
お前のPCの文字化けか？
それともお前の脳内誤変換かｗ
948:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 17:41:23
この糞スレ次もやるのか知らないけど、壁君の発言は間違いなくスレ史上に残る名言だぞw
949:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 17:41:25
So you are annoyed by "again"
It happens all the time, again and again and again.
You started discussing something and someone else join it.
You don't know who says what...
What I wanted to say was I do not prefer TOEFL to TOEIC or Eiken.
To me they are more or less the same. English proficiency tests, aren't they?
950:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 17:42:17
な～んだ。やっぱり文盲幼稚園児君は答えられなくて悔しがるばかりｗ
お気の毒にｗ
951:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 17:46:57
>I was mistaken you for someone
ぷぷぷぷぷ
952:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 17:49:12
>>922
>しつこいｗ妄想壁があるなｗ
>>925
>liarをlierと綴るのが恥ずかしいとかいっておいて、妄想「カベ」は恥ずかしくないんですかw
>>926
「かべ」なんて書いてないだろｗ
お前のPCの文字化けか？
953:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 18:04:58
>>949
I don't really care but you don't use "again" in that context.
That sounds more like "As I said before".
anyway, the context was
>>864
>>866
>>867
so if you think 550 is good, then that's good. That's what I meant too.
954:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 18:17:23
If you take it "as I said before," it's fine with me because
I say this again and again on this thread.
There are more important factors to make one a good teacher other
than knowledge or skills. If the teacher has a passion to learn English
he/she can make up for the lack of his/her knowledge or skills in the langauge.
955:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 18:26:40
>>954
Way to go buddy. Again, hint hint, it's just the context was like >>953,
so if you are feeling like that then that's pretty much in accord with what I meant.
956:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 18:50:00
>>955
When people here find out that I'm a teacher, they start shouting at me and
say, "Be ashamed of yourself." OK, I may not be a great teacher but not bad
either and most of my co-working teachers are just good.
I just don't understand why people make it such a big deal out of something
like TOEIC, TOEFL, EIKEN.
957:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 19:13:01
なんだおまえらベラベラじゃん？
やっぱ頭いいんだね
958:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 19:19:19
おれもペラペラだけど、まともに英語できる英語教師は一度たりともあったことない。
959:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 19:30:01
↑時間すげぇ
960:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 19:34:41
>>956
I don't care for certifications much ether and I think most of the teachers must be good,
but you've gotta see the title of this silly trolling thread, and looking at how that "wall"
guy acted, I have to say there really are bad ones as well.
961:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/15 20:37:08
I'm pretty much sure I've talked with someone like the "wall" guy before.
They somehow hate (or despise) Japanese English teachers probably from
their own limited experience in their school days.
One of them was a son of a high school English teacher. The guy really
looked down on his own poor Dad, who is now retired but he didn't study
English at all when he was a teacher. The son, on the other hand, was quite
into learning English and excellent at it. The son assumed all the teachers
were like his old father. It's sad that he cannot respect his own father.
962:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/16 20:13:08
Now I've found I was called a liar. Probably I should be offended for being
called a liar. I'm a teacher and I got 627 in TOEFL(PBT) several years ago.
Does it sound unlikely? Whether you like it or not, it is true and I'm not
lying.
It might sound contradictory if I say teachers need not be too much
concerned about their scores in TOEFL(TOEIC) because I've already got quite a
good score...but I mean it. We'll keep improving as long as we have a passion
to learn. In doing so, we can show our students how we try to improve ourselves.
We are all non-native speakers and almost none of us was brought up in
any English speaking countries or have ever lived in any other countries besides Japan.
However, we can probably be a good model for our students. Look at us. We studied and
study and are still studying English here in Japan. Although our English is far from
perfect, wecan communicate well using English. Isn’t it something?
963:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/17 06:09:54
TOEFL ibt高いわ。何とかならんのかあの料金
県で負担しろや
何か必修とかにしてさ。
964:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/17 15:41:25
TOEFL627なら俺より低いな。
だが２ちゃんなんかで自分の点数書き込んで自慢してるのって痛くないか？
こういうやつの神経が分からん。
これぞ２ちゃんねるって感じだな。
965:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/17 23:00:45
TOEFLの最高点っていくつだっけ？
966:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/17 23:15:28
990
967:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/17 23:16:22
900はTOEICだた。
TOEFLは確か677？
968:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/18 05:55:03
TOEFLの満点
IBT 最高点：120 最低点：0
CBT 最高点：300 最低点：0
PBT 最高点：677 最低点：300（98年6月以前は200）
ITP 最高点：677 最低点：300
TOEIC 990点
627と言っても満点まで50点もある。だから627よりもっと高い人がいておかしくはない。
なのに自分より高い人間が来ると「なんだと？証明してみろ」というのは無意味。
969:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/18 12:37:19
今もそうかもしれないけど、TOEFLって600点が試金石じゃなかったかな。
いい大学だとたいてい600点以上要求していたような。
970:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/18 16:20:56
>>968
I agree with you. There are millions of people who've got a better mark.
I'm not surprised.
>>964
I'm not surprised you are one of them. Well, what is your opinion about
the topic of this thread, then? Are you a teacher yourself, too?
Are you a student, whose teacher is hopeless? Or are you a parent of
a kid whose teacher can't use any English?
971:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/19 02:12:01
いったいどこの訛りだろう？
972:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/02/22 01:30:15
>>163-164です。
>>165 そろそろこのスレも終わりのようですので、レスを頂けますと有り難いです。よろしくお願いたします。