09/01/06 13:56:23
>>354
You study heat transfer in elementary school?
I am very impressed.
I don't think I learned those terms until college, but I spent most
of my high school physics class looking out of the classroom windows...
359:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 14:10:25
>>358
We sure learn the three ways of heat transfer in elementary school.
I don't mean we learn complicated calculation of how much calories are
tranfered and all at elementary school, though. We just learn there are three ways of heat transfer
and each of the names, 伝導(conduction)対流（convection）and 放射（radiation)
and examples of wash of them.
360:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 14:24:58
>>359
You kiddin me! I never heard such terms in elementary or even in middle.
Oh, don' mention me facing down on my desk, though.
361:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 14:43:50
>>360
I'm serious.
I googled to prove I'm right.
Look at the bottom of the page 7.
URLﾘﾝｸ(ext-web.edu.sgu.ac.jp)
Other links.
URLﾘﾝｸ(web-sensei.jp)
URLﾘﾝｸ(209.85.175.132)
We learn heat transfer in detail in junior high or high school but
we first learn it at elementary school.
362:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 16:57:13
>>359
you are smart guy. i forgot everything, i even don't understand what you are talking about.
363:ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc
09/01/06 17:10:46
I just realized something.
Whenever a Christian character shows up in Japanese media,
he or she is almost always Catholic.
I wonder why that is?
364:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 17:23:10
>>363
I never thought about the differences between Cathoric and Protestant
or other fractions of Christanity in my daily life. All I know is Cathoric
people call a gathering at church "mass," while protestant people don't.
Other stuff I know is, Cathoric people are the origine of Christianity and
Protestant came later and was prosecuted and moved to New continent now called
America on Mayflower.
So what features of the characters in Japanese media makes you think
they are Cathoric? Maybe outfit?
365:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 17:32:22
>>364
I've just learned from your post that you don't know anything about Christianity and that in Japan. You're just spreading your vage idea of what it is in your mind.
366:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 21:39:45
To >>999 of the last thread,
I too think it's interesting. Apparently that's where even native speakers may get tripped up!
But my understanding is that a language is defined by actual usage, not by linguists.
So I think we don't need care too much about the "proper" grammar. What we speak is the actual, living language.
367:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 21:52:29
>>998(in another thread)
OK, I understand that the usage of 'country' is essential point, with regard to the my question.
Thanks a lot!
Then, do you think the following sentense is correct in terms of the usage of 'the'?
Generally speaking, people living in 'the' urban area long for the way of life in the country ?
368:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 22:17:58
>>367
I'd say "in urban areas" if the sentence means 都会人ってのは田舎の暮らしに憧れるもんさ。
But the urban area, the urban areas, an urban area are all grammatically correct.
Probably the meaning follows the general rule I described.
The point is the noun "area" also has various meanings and their usages can vary,
so articles (and whether it's singular or plural) depend on what you mean by "area."
Where's a native speaker!?
369:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 22:37:41
happy new year everyone
370:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 22:41:02
>>369
Happy new year to you.
371:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 22:45:13
>>370
your english skil is really good, how did you get your english?
372:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 22:55:18
wow
with regard to the my question
-> with regard to the question
>>368
I understand. Thanks.
Well, I guess the difficulty of understanding how to use 'the' lies in a particular usage
of each word, like the case of 'area'.
Anyway, I also wait for a native-speaker to come too--
Thanks.
373:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 23:05:26
>>371
Is "Happy new year to you" that good??
Anyway, I often make grammatical errors and speak "engrish" very fluently lol.
I think my English skills are abysmal when compared with native English speakers' fluency.
You know, they say it's a case of the pot calling the kettle black. 五十歩百歩だよね。
There's little if any difference between non-native speakers in this thread.
Actually, my grammar is fucked up already and my vocabulary is next to nothing!
That's why I'm posting in this thread; we can hone our English skills together.
I do think native and non-native speakers in this thread helped me improve my English.
374:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 23:08:51
>>373
wtf?
375:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 23:20:16
>>373
preach that shit
376:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 23:24:54
>>373
when you watch a us movie, you could understand without japanses subtitles?
i'll check out tomorrow if you would post for me.
good night
377:ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc
09/01/06 23:29:00
>>364
"Mass" is actually the name of a specific rite, not just any gathering.
Differences between Roman Catholics and other sorts of Christians?
Le me see what I can come up with off the top of my head...
I may get some facts wrong, but I'll do my best to be accurate.
Roman Catholics consider the Pope in Vatican City their leader.
They believe that a person must be baptized to enter heaven.
"Confessions" (the admitting of sins, taking place in a small booth) is primarily associated with Roman Catholics.
It is mostly pre-Reformation forms of Christianity that have nuns.
Roman Catholics are more likely to cross themselves.
378:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 23:34:52
I read this thread.
It's so long.
you should write one sentence!
379:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/06 23:48:49
>>368
Enough, already.
No matter how you are calling any native speakers, They are amazed at your wordily speech.
So switch the conversation next time.
380:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 00:19:44
>>379
You know my favorites? Trolling and bullshitting. Hypocrisy is my religion.
engrish is my mother tongue. And it's your second language too.
You seem to think all looong posts are by the same person.
But how do you know that? Can you prove it?
Your angry replies only make my penis harder ^_^
381:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 00:23:41
>>363
We don't know anything about Christianity, and Catholic just sounds cool and hawt. Thats why. I think.
About the only thing I and most of Japanese people know about Christniy is Jesus. He got burned
on a cross and revived himself in a blazing rage. Moses used magic to split a river and killed the Egyptian
Army. Then after the river got back to normal, Jesus turned the water into wine and walked on it.
Then he had a dinner with his men and Brutus betrayed him and poisoned the food and Jesus died again.
382:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 00:25:37
>>380
I think you and I can get along well, because I revel in faggotry and sorcery!
383:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 00:25:43
>>377
I have thought that every Christian does "Confessions" whether he is a Cathorics or not.
384:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 00:32:36
>>382
>revel in faggotry and sorcery!
>faggotry and sorcery!
> sorcery!
It might be good for your mental health to stop watching anime and stuff for a while.
Moderation is your friend, man.
385:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 00:39:33
What? I don't watch anime much at all.
Why sorcery = anime? I take back my sattement, you starting to sound like some gay old man.
386:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 00:41:49
lol
387:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 00:47:15
>>385
I don't know if such a weird equation would make anyone look like a fag.
Just pretend everyone is a cute girl (or a boy if you're female).
Life is peachy that way.
388:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 00:49:11
>>380
engrish is my mother tongue.
I think it's so funny to see a native English speaker who can't spell "English".
389:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 00:54:46
>>388
I'm Japanese...
390:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 00:56:46
>>387
A cute girl? What the hell? Again, you talk like some gay old man. It's like the more you talk, the more
you get sucked into the old man sandhole spiral. You should stop now.
391:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 00:58:11
>>388
Google Engrish
392:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 01:05:51
Oh, I never knew engrish is a slang.
Sorry for everyone...
393:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 01:19:44
>>390
I am sorry for behaving in a way that some users of this board have been offended or some shit.
It was not my intention that my caress words caused trouble in this precious thread or some shit.
I am most grateful if you, other posters, and lurkers could let me have a nice, productive talk again or some shit.
I believe this place is the best English practice thread I have ever seen or some shit.
I hope we can enjoy a conversation in English or some shit.
...well, i got bored. See ya if I would ever come back.
394:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 01:20:34
>>392
go to engrish.com, funny stuffs
395:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 01:27:41
>>394
It'll hurt your English grammar.
396:ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc
09/01/07 03:21:28
>>383
If you see a character speaking to a priest through a lattice in an enclosed booth,
that person is a Roman Catholic.
Usually, before confessing, the character might say something like "Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned".
397:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 03:22:25
ey! SUP？
398:Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs
09/01/07 03:37:52
>>397
Oh, nothing!
399:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 03:49:23
>>398
I haven't seen you for a while. How's /g/ going?
400:Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs
09/01/07 03:51:23
>>399
Fine. Anonymous hates me less and less every day.
I actually haven't been on there as much either, because of being with friends that I haven't seen in a while, and enjoying my Christmas present.
401:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 03:58:36
>>400
Glad to hear you're doing well.
>Anonymous hates me less and less every day.
Why do you trip? I'm not saying trips are for attention whores or anything,
but I think it definitely causes certain hostility in some anonymous.
It's like you're asking for it. I've never used names or trips.
Maybe because you've been using that name in other forums too?
402:Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs
09/01/07 04:02:24
>>401
No, this name started only a month or two ago, on /g/.
I use it because I can. I like to be remembered, whether for good or bad.
403:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 04:06:14
Captain who are you?
Identify yourself.
404:Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs
09/01/07 04:08:33
I always thought that using a name and a tripcode is identifying enough
405:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 04:10:57
Is Captain Spicard your identity?
Ha!
406:Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs
09/01/07 04:11:26
That's what they call me, online anyway!
407:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 04:11:59
>>402
I also sometimes want to be remembered and recognized.
But if I really want, I can go any forums where you should register, unlike 4chan and 2ch.
Have you tried another forum too?
408:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 04:14:08
I can read your mind.
409:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 04:15:30
>>408
Post what I'm thinking right now then.
410:Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs
09/01/07 04:20:13
>>407
Don't like normal forums. When EVERYONE has a name, it gets tiring.
411:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 04:20:16
>>409
You are thinking about what you are thinking about.
412:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 04:23:56
>>377
It's just that we Japanese lump all Christians altogether.
We don't even know differences between fractions of Christians
although some people know vague differences between Cathoric and
Protestant. The gesture of making a cross in front of your chest is
our stereotype of Christians that's why you thought all characters
in anime are Cathoric.
413:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 04:25:48
>>377
And confessions are our stereotype of Christians, too.
414:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 04:27:20
>>411
HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT?! SCARY!!11
>>410
Haha, I know what you mean. I don't like normal forums very much either.
415:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 04:38:54
This is interesting.
URLﾘﾝｸ(uncyclopedia.wikia.com)
416:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 04:41:13
Sup.
417:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 05:29:42
Did Sparky ambush and bate his breath in the previous thread to get 1000?
It's amusing.
418:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 05:32:16
Accoring to an admin report of 2ch, they just banned those three US ISPs yet again.
419:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 05:34:39
Sparky didn't post before 1000 counts but he won
1000.
420:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 05:36:05
>>418
Can you tell me why admins ban Americans? Are they doing something naughty on other boards?
421:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 05:38:57
By the way, is an adjective COUNTRY, which means rural, become uncountable noun when
it is topped with the?
Like the country?
422:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 05:43:29
>>421
According to the Oxford Dictionary of English, it is a noun. No adjective usage is on the list.
423:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 05:44:46
What do you like about living in the country? : 田舎暮らしのどこが好きですか？
It's haunted my mind a bit.
Just forget. I started to think >>421 was strange even though I knew
I didn't get the gist of "the countery".
424:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 05:49:10
>>420
No, none of them did anything that could cause a ban, I suppose.
They say those 3, comcast.net, dyn.optonline.net, res.rr.com let their users make proxy servers
on their domain so easily that even a Japanese spammer could take advantage of them.
They just want to block as many proxies as possible.
425:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 05:49:15
単に運動不足なんだよ。筋肉が発達してないから疲れやすいんだよ？
426:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 05:51:31
hey fuckers
what r u gonna do today?
427:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 05:52:06
>>425
This is one excerpt from 日本語 基本構文７００選.
Study this Japanese sentece.
428:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 06:25:24
シチューもお魚も沢山あるよ。
じゃね！
429:米人
09/01/07 08:05:02
short detour through Thailand...
430:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/01/07 08:11:18
Barrel rolling via Thailand...
431:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 08:29:48
Cool that Sagat is still on your side though.
432:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 08:31:41
>>429-430
Oh, you are having hard time now...
433:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 08:43:34
Captain Spicard, I've not seen you for a while! Hello～
434:加奈陀人
09/01/07 08:54:40
I just picked up "The Man With No Name" series featuring Clint Eastwood. Oh, and "The Last Samurai".
Tom Cruise running around with samurai armour always gets me. He is fighting for the honour of Scientology!
435:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 10:21:42
I'm fuking now!
436:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 10:29:20
>>435
with your right hand
437:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/01/07 10:40:07
I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who explained は/が in the previous thread.
It helped me a bunch so I made sure to save the posts.
I have my Japanese final next week Thursday. I don't think it'll be that bad; the whole thing is multiple choice.
438:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 10:58:10
>>436
ahaha!
you were getting me 1pon!
439:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 11:02:26
>>437
Yes, their explanations about は/が were pretty good, and surely it's worth saving, I think.
440:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 11:04:20
Do you see the Top gear of BBC2?
I think it's good for studing UK english.
441:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 11:14:42
>>437
Well, what sorts of questions your teacher make ?
In Japan, a common type of exam in Japan is reading English writings and answering the questions.
How about your exam ?
442:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 11:49:25
I just hope EG 421 423 441, annoying gits aka ばか will be banned immediately.
443:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 12:04:31
>>434
Do you have faith in Scientology or any other some cults?
they are always scared me.
444:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 12:13:22
I'll go out to make a bank account. I'm cool.
445:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 12:13:27
Got a lot of good things on sale stranger!!
446:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 12:14:50
>>442
That's a nice idea!
But why you aren't included among them?
447:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/07 12:16:03
>>427
(1)Someone/Something -ga somewhere-ni iru/aru.
(2)Someone/Something -ga something-o suru.
(3)Someone/Something -wa somehow-de aru.
These are basic 3 formulas of Japanese language.
Do you know why the post position is wa with (3), while with (1),(2), they are ga?
448:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/01/07 12:38:06
>>441
Normally we have two 45 minute multiple choice tests in class before our official final.
One is more heavily reading comprehension based while the other is straight grammar/vocabulary.
Then we usually act out a dialogue with a partner during the final period. However, for some
reason my teacher decided to only do the multiple choice tests this time.
449:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/07 12:43:15
>>448
What's the most difficult part for you in Japanese ?
450:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/07 13:16:18
>>427
Those 3 formulas consist the subject and the predicate, each representing existence, function and state.
(1)Someone/Something -ga somewhere-ni ari-masu.
(2)Someone/Something -ga somehow-shi masu.
(3)Someone/Something -wa somehow-de ari-masu.
These are how you add axiliaries to the subject and the predicate.
Do you know the formulas?
451:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 13:23:18
kaho
452:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/07 13:26:13
(1)Someone/Something -ga somewhere-ni aru-de-aro-u.
(2)Someone/Something -wa somehow-shuru ni chigai-nai-de-aro-u.
(3)Someone/Something -wa somehow-de aru-ka-mo-shire-nu.
These are how some axiliaries are added?
Are these fascinating?
453:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/07 13:42:12
Someone/Something -ga somewhere-ni aru-no-de, someone/something -wa somehow-shuru koto-ga-dekiru.
Someone/Something -wa somehow-de aru-kere-do-mo, someone/something -wa somehow-shuru.
Thus, adding auxilliaries can directly lead to another clause, making the earlier clause the subbordinate clause.
Isn't this Japanese grammar wnderful?
It is also wonderous because it have been given me by Christ the Lord.
454:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/01/07 13:49:39
>>449
Hmmm. Well it's all interlinked right? I'd say writing/speaking on the fly
is the hardest for me (which is a problem since it's on my AP test in May...). I'm pretty good at memorizing vocabulary and grammar usage
so reading comprehension isn't too bad. I think this is pretty normal for a any foreign
language learner though.
455:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/07 14:05:55
>>454
This has been all created by Kazuyoshi Kataoka who is I.
You say writing/speaking is the hardest for you.
My formulas can be applied in all the listening, the speaking, the reading and the writing.
1.existence
2.function
3.state
4.auxiliaries
5.subbordinate clause
Jesus' law applies to anything under heaven.
456:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 14:11:08
Sukichi sensei is no doubt a nice person but sometimes I have no fucking clue what
he's talking about.
457:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/07 14:17:58
I am talking about what lies deep around the root of things.
458:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 14:19:47
Yes, it's too deep for me and I like it that way.
459:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/01/07 15:05:55
jook, look at sparky's board again if you're having trouble posting.
460:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 16:01:00
>>457
>494 ：片岡数吉 ◆q1XDCabc/2 ：2009/01/06(火) 21:36:20
>All too often, international arms companies, [ with the assistance of their governments ], are ready and willing
>[ to provide a wide range of weapons systems,
>[ often directed at the harsh control of dissident movements, [ with small arms [ killing tens of thousands of civilians each year ] ] ].
>また、国際軍事企業［自分たちの政府の援助を受けた］は、
>毎年何万人もの市民を殺す小規模武器をもって反対勢力を激しく制圧することにしばしば向けられる
>ひろい範囲の攻撃システムを配備する準備をやる気満々である。
What an atrocious translation!
Mr. Kataoka seems to be unable to grasp the meaning
and grammatical function of 'with' in this context.
There is no point of enclosing syntactical units with brackets
if it does not help you understand the meaning of a sentence.
461:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 16:02:07
Man, アメリカ人、米人、have to do proxy server hopping to be able to
post here. I hope you guys can have proxy servers available all the
time just in case you are blocked again and again.
jook has the same trouble now. Hope he'll find アメリカ人's post
on Sparky's board.
462:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 16:33:07
Umm, how severe these random attacks from the 2ch's administrator are..
These campaigns are somewhat brutal, yes.
463:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 18:57:41
Are there native-speakers here ? or can post now??
I have a question about an American culture.
My question is ”Do Americans really hug each other regardless of the person's gender ?”
I heard somewhere that hugging with someone is commonly accepted in America, and many people also have heard that, I guess.
464:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 19:13:03
They say, "there's no such a thing as a stupid question." But this seems to be a rare case.... You're simply asking someting even trained anthropologists hesitage to answer. The best answer you can get is, probably, it depends.
465:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 19:38:55
What the hell are you babbling about?
466:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/07 19:43:39
>>461
Man, アメリカ人、米人、have
[ to do [ proxy server hopping ]
[ to be able [ to post here ] ].
I hope [ you guys can have proxy servers
[ available all the time ]
[ just in case you are blocked again and again ].
jook has the same trouble now.
Hope he'll find アメリカ人's post on Sparky's board.
467:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 19:48:12
>>465
>What the hell are you babbling about?
About your stupidity. Got it?
468:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 20:01:57
There's no such thing as my stupidity; it's just your anability in the ass.
469:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 20:09:03
what is an anability?
470:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/07 20:10:37
The [ alleged ], but now generally [ discounted ],
pre-war link [ between Saddam Hussein’s Iraq and al-Qaida ]
has become a self-[ fulfilling ] prophecy,
in [ that [ treating Iraq as part of the ‘war on terror’]
has only spawned new terror in the region and created a combat [ training ] zone for paramilitaries and jihadists.
People across the world now overwhelmingly believe
[ that the Iraq war has increased the likelihood of terrorist attacks worldwide.
[ If extended to Iran ], the implications of intervention would be disastrous.
It was hoped by the planners in Washington and London
[ that the removal of Saddam Hussein and the [ spreading [ of democracy to Iraq ] ] would eventually vindicate their policy of pre-emption ].
However, it has become clear
that ‘democracy’ in this instance actually means the privatisation of state-run industries, plus elections.
The US policy of detention without trial of “unlawful combatants” in Guantanamo Bay;
the [ widespread ] and deliberate [ bombing ] of civilian infrastructure in Afghanistan and Iraq;
the abuse and torture of prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison;
and the destruction of Fallujah, the “city of mosques”,
are just four more of the injustices of the ‘war on terror’ –
injustices widely reported across the Muslim world,
further adding to the sense of oppression and marginalisation(Islamic militants
**
Native speakers, is my bracketing beautiful?
471:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/07 20:11:34
The US policy of detention without trial of “unlawful combatants” in Guantanamo Bay;
the [ widespread ] and deliberate [ bombing ] of civilian infrastructure in Afghanistan and Iraq;
the abuse and torture of prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison;
and the destruction of Fallujah, the “city of mosques”,
are just four more of the injustices of the ‘war on terror’ –
injustices widely reported across the Muslim world,
further adding to the sense of oppression and marginalisation(Islamic militants
**
Native speakers, is my bracketing beautiful?
472:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 20:23:18
>>469
a remarkably gifted pain.
473:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 20:45:14
>>467
Maybe, you think >>465 and >>463 is the same person, but it'snot true.
Now, I'm a little bit disgusted though lol
474:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 20:50:24
>>473
You are not excused.
475:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/07 20:53:35
>>474
Why I have to beg excuse ?
476:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 00:07:24
robotinsendai
477:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 00:22:02
Yesterday I found a thread which title was "英語で話すスレ" at VIP board.
So I tried to talk with the residents there, but in spite of English thread, they accused me of using Enlish better than them, rather than they tried to use it.
478:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 00:37:25
>>447
Please keep in mind that in general vippers are too young to speak English fluently.
There is even a theory that majority of them is a elementary school student.
Note: never trust what I wrote.
479:米人
09/01/08 02:07:35
>>463
Hugging people of either gender because they're your friends is only common
among teenage girls and very young children.
My 14 year old son went to a town event before Christmas, and was quite
surprised when some girls from his class (not close friends) walked up to him and hugged him
out of the blue. I told him not to read too much into it, since they were probably only
friendly hugs.
Women who are 20+ usually only hug really close friends or family that they haven't seen
in a long time, and most men of any age don't show affection in public like that.
At least this is how is in the Northeast. But we have the reputation of being
cold and unfriendly. In other parts of the country, it might be different.
480:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 03:29:15
>>478
Thanks for returning an opinion.
Few VIPPER could make even an easy sentence, such as SVOC. Almost all of them like nasty, ugly words and want to use positively them.
As you say, I also think their mental standards are really like those of elementary school students.
I realized it was no use talking with them about sincere topics and tried to do so in vain.
It was foolish for me to visit such thread as made me feel so unpleasant.
Then I was firmly determined to stay away from that.
481:Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s
09/01/08 03:39:46
Some of the Japanese in this thread can write almost perfectly in English.
I just want to say I am proud of you.
482:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 04:48:34
>>481
Maybe it's not about me, but thank you anyway.
483:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 05:02:56
no doubt a nice person
give me a break.
484:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 05:25:21
My 14 year old son went to a town event before Christmas, and was quite
surprised when some girls from his class (not close friends) walked up to him and hugged him
out of the blue. I told him not to read too much into it, since they were probably only
friendly hugs.
-----------------
LOL it shows how indiscriminate hugs to all genders with all ages
is ridiculous.
485:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 06:31:54
British are less hagging that Americans?
How about Germans?
I heard German Americans are the biggest population in White Americans.
But German is not associated with freindly hug as long as my image of
German goes.
486:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 06:34:52
To be more precise the number of immigrators from German seem to be
the biggest.
487:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 06:37:06
Oh, shit immi grant.
488:加奈陀人
09/01/08 06:38:18
>>485
Germans aren't defined by the country they are from.
You are just as likely to meet a friendly German, as you are a cold German.
But there's no doubt that many people have an idea in their head that Germans are very rigid and calculating.
Don't buy into that.
489:加奈陀人
09/01/08 06:47:23
>>479
In my high school, girls hug each other all the time. Passing acquaintances, friends, even teachers...
And then they turn around and talk gossip about them five minutes later, lol.
490:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 06:47:28
>>488
Hahahaha. Who said How Germans are.?
But
Germans aren't defined by the country they are from.
You are just as likely to meet a friendly German, as you are a cold German.
But there's no doubt that many people have an idea in their head that Germans are very rigid and calculating.
---
That's nearly what I have the image of.
However I think your comments are beside the point a bit.
I am saying how hugging culture in Germany is.
I just thought the mass of people from an distinctive area might effect
the cultural custom of where they immigrated.
So how big is hugging in Germany?
491:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 06:49:37
>>489
does somebody anticipate sexual pleasure hidden in their minds?
Speak from your own experience if you like.
492:加奈陀人
09/01/08 06:51:35
>>490
You're right, I jumped to conclusions. Sorry about that, I thought you were saying that Germans tend to be less friendly in general.
My mistake.
I'm not sure how prevalent hugging is in Germany, but I have a German friend who is fairly affectionate. I have seen her hugging others.
But that is just one example.
493:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 06:55:26
It could be a misconception that North Americans are the most hug loving
people.
There is no ground. Just an image.
Italians seem to love hugging. I don't have statistic date though.
In general is it can be said (North) Americans do more hugs than
average Enropeans?
494:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 06:57:20
can it be said.
It's difficult to improvise English.
495:加奈陀人
09/01/08 06:57:41
>>491
What do you mean? Are you asking if hugging is seen as an act of sexuality?
If that's your question, than yes, in certain cases. My girlfriend would hug me often before we ever actually "got together", and I did see it as a sexual thing.
It all depends on the context and assumptions, though. Random hugging (and sometimes even kissing) have become so common that it's hard to tell.
For example, a male teacher hugging a female student is almost exceptable now, because it is nearly meaningless.
496:加奈陀人
09/01/08 07:01:29
>>493
From what I know, hugging is a much more integral part of Italian culture than it is North American culture.
Personally, I am taken aback if people I don't know well hug me, and even if I do know them I am apprehensive. And I think that feeling is still fairly widespread.
My Italian friends tell me stories about how their Italian relatives kiss them and hug them, so I THINK it's more common, at least in Italy.
497:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 07:02:11
Are you asking if hugging is seen as an act of sexuality?
NoNo. Do hugging for frienship and affection on the surface,
but inside sexual aim in one's mind
My girlfriend would hug me often before we ever actually "got together", and I did see it as a sexual thing.
Are you violating the law? You have to marry her if you cross the cartain limit.
Take your responsibility.
And beware of a sturdy korean who is gonna take her away!
498:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 07:04:02
For example, a male teacher hugging a female student is almost exceptable now, because it is nearly meaningless
Really? he will be regarded as pervert in Japan!
If hugged one is like page three girls, teacher can do hugs without
a secret intention?
499:加奈陀人
09/01/08 07:05:48
>>497
"Do hugging for frienship and affection on the surface, but inside sexual aim in one's mind"
I can't really say, but I'm sure there are quite a few people who are like that. Many people act one way on the outside, but on the inside are thinking of nothing but sex.
Of course, this isn't anything new.
Lol, yes, I will marry her before going any further, of course. I will be a happily married 17 year old. I plan to have twelve children.
And I will keep an eye out for the sturdy Korean man.
500:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 07:09:25
be as religous and faithful as Jessicca Alba.
I just presumed your girlfriend is white.
If it's not the case, you can take off your guard.
Koreans seem to be quite popular among white girls in the north american and
Koreans love white girls.
501:加奈陀人
09/01/08 07:09:39
>>498
Most times the female students will enter the classroom and request a hug. And it isn't enitirely non-taboo, if parents and school faculty find out the teacher is usually scolded or watched closely.
But I'm only talking from my own experience, and from what I have seen myself. I personally thought nothing of it - a quick hug at the request of the female student.
Thinking back on it, though, I find myself questioning the teacher's intentions...
502:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 07:10:33
be off guard? English is not easy!
503:加奈陀人
09/01/08 07:13:12
>>500
"Koreans seem to be quite popular among white girls..."
I honestly have never heard of this, or seen any evidence of it... All of my male Korean friends are either single or have girlfriends of Asian descent.
But I dunno, that could just be in my area.
504:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 07:14:40
but I'm sure there are quite a few people who are like that. Many people act one way on the outside, but on the inside are thinking of nothing but sex.
--
Human are human. glad to hear.
Do you have any personal experience that you felt lucky to be
hugged by a wonderful girl?
505:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 07:16:56
>>503
Are you living in white area?
I heard Canada is not as segregated as America though.
I eavesdropped the conversation in McDonald..
A white Canadian teacher explaind in that way.
He said he was shocked to see the condition of America
when he visited America.
506:加奈陀人
09/01/08 07:17:42
>>504
Well, that's kind of personal, isn't it? Haha.
But I'll answer it with this... "Haven't we all?"
507:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 07:17:46
>>503
Koreans here taught me.
You must be living in a rural town where new trends hardly
arrive.
508:加奈陀人
09/01/08 07:21:02
>>505
I have only been to America twice, so I can't really say for certain.
But Canada is know for it's multiculturalism, and is very accepting of many cultures.
I do live in a white area, but there are actually a lot of Muslims moving in around here, as well as Filipinos.
Which I think is great. Have to expand my world, after all.
509:加奈陀人
09/01/08 07:22:09
>>507
Well now I know you're just screwing with me, lol.
510:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 07:22:36
White girls in the north america can receive free hugs from
mesmerising korean guys.
Immigration from Europe will arise....
Mesmersing was the phrase he liked and I learned from him.
日本語だと くらくらする
511:加奈陀人
09/01/08 07:24:31
>>510
Your Korean friend is quite the storyteller.
And what is that you typed in Japanese? Something about nausea? I'm probably wrong.
512:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 07:25:49
>>509
He seems to be off these days. But there existed the korean
poster who inhabited this thread.
He must be busy in Christmas and New year season.
513:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 07:27:21
>>511
くらくらする can be used in that way.
But if you are an attractive, handsome man, you are くらくら
させる。
514:加奈陀人
09/01/08 07:34:21
>>513
Thank you for the explanation.
I have to go for a while, guys. It's been a very interesting conversation.
515:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/01/08 08:02:38
>>463
Man, I wish I saved an early post where I talked about this.
Within my circle of friends, it's not uncommon to see hugging between guys
or girls. It's really no big deal. Obviously we don't sit there holding each other for
hours, but it's more like a bear hug. As 加奈陀人 said, hugging can be flirtatious if
the people hugging haven't known each other for long.
When we had Japanese exchange students come to our school I think they were surprised by it.
Also, when we went to Japan they sometimes thought we were doing a lot of flirting by hugging.
If I hugged a girl who's a good friend they asked, "Oh do you like [name]?" and if I hugged
a guy they asked, "Are you gay?" It was pretty funny for the Americans though.
516:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 08:19:29
Korean mother fucker is stinky beause eating a dog.
517:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 09:49:06
Wow, thank you for all your responses.
According to your all posts, hugging appears to be widely accepted in not only the U.S but also Canada and Italy.
Well, I think that for shy people the hugging culture would be a quite tough convention.
If I WERE hugged in front of a lot of classmates, my face would blush immediately.
>>515
Oh, this topics were talked about before?
It's when you guys discussed stereotypes ?
518:firestar
09/01/08 09:49:12
what all this talk about hugging being common in the USA?
yes there is such a thing as a friendly hug, but don't get the image that we run around hugging each other.
Personal space in this nation is about one arms length away from a person.
it is best not to violate this.
it also seems that females can hug other females that they know and are friendly with, but when males hug other males it's seen as gay.
519:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 09:52:50
Hey アメリカ人, what was the name of a Canadian indie band you or keira mentioned before?
It that Metric? I can't find the log since this thread moves pretty fast.
520:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 09:57:52
>>518
haha, then, tight hug won't be permmitted even in the U.S. in short.
521:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 10:03:50
>>501
Teachers are smiling while their penises are erecting.
522:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 10:05:55
Maybe as 米人 said, there are some regional differences in attitudes towards hugging, as well.
The US is a huge country after all.
523:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 10:31:54
>>518
Chiacago must be full of gays and segregationists.
524:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 10:38:47
米人 is from connecticut. She is not a native of Boston.
So maybe entire northwest has the same tendency.
525:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/01/08 10:59:02
>>519
Well, I like Metric and they are from Canada, but I never mentioned them here lol.
Are you thinking of "Of Montreal"? I was talking about how I went to an Of Montreal concert
and keira mentioned she liked them as well. She also recommended Los Campesinos! to me.
Fun fact though, Of Montreal is actually from Athens, Georgia.
526:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 11:02:33
in chicago gangster is everywhere with arm.
in town full of gangster.
527:加奈陀人
09/01/08 11:05:32
"I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. Gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it..."
Best movie quote, hands down.
528:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 11:37:05
>>525
Ah ok. lol "M" was correct, at least.
I was looking for some indie/electro/rock type of stuff so I'll check them out, thanks.
529:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/01/08 12:19:21
>>526
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say, but in either case Al Capone is going to
shred you to pieces with his Tommy gun.
>>528
Definitely check out CSS as well. Are you Japanese?
530:加奈陀人
09/01/08 12:27:50
>>525
Metric is a great band. Their songs have some really great beats, although I haven't heard any of their stuff in quite a while...
Also, any idea why a band from Athens would name their band "Of Montreal"?
531:米人
09/01/08 12:29:54
>>495
"For example, a male teacher hugging a female student is almost exceptable [acceptable] now, because it is nearly meaningless."
!!!
Totally, totally unacceptable!
>>524
Northeast--Connecticut borders Massachusetts. There isn't much difference between them,
except Massachusetts is more liberal and has better schools.
All you people interested in hugs & hugging--have you heard of the free hugs movement?
It was started by an Australian calling himself Juan Mann in Sydney.
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
It's since spread to several major cities around the world,
including this one that you might recognize:
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
OMG...it's here too?
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
532:加奈陀人
09/01/08 12:36:11
>>531
I am only explaining what it is that I have seen as a high school student. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it, but so far nobody has made a fuss.
And... thank you for the correction.
533:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/01/08 12:37:35
>>530
Apparently the lead singer named the band "Of Montreal" after his relationship with a girlfriend
from Montreal went south. The story changes slightly every time someone asks him about it though...
534:加奈陀人
09/01/08 12:42:44
>>533
Interesting, thank you.
I've been working on an art history assignment for the last three or four hours.
This is driving me insane... I can literally smell my laptop melting...
535:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 12:44:33
>>531
Well, I happened to see that sort of activity once in a public area.
That seemed to be conducted by a white woman and a brown man,
and they holded a placard, which 'FREE HUG' was written on.
536:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 12:45:22
>>532
You are living in a heaven for male teachers.
537:米人
09/01/08 12:46:22
>>532
That's pretty incredible. It wouldn't be tolerated here, mostly
because the schools are afraid of sexual harassment lawsuits from parents.
Do you go to a public school?
538:Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s
09/01/08 12:47:17
>>534
Are you an art major or is that just filling a general education requirement?
Just to give my two cents on the topic, hugging was common throughout high school.
Girls I barely knew would hug me for no particular reason. Nobody would bat an eye.
I hardly ever see that kind of behavior in my university, however. I suppose people
think they should start acting more mature and adult once they make the transition into
a university.
539:米人
09/01/08 12:49:15
>>535
Did you hug either one of them?
I myself would have avoided them, but then I don't like
touching strangers.
540:加奈陀人
09/01/08 12:49:52
>>536
I seem to have given the impression that male teachers are running around hugging female students and then inviting them to dinner.
I have seen it two or three times, and there was no hanky-panky involved.
My school is not a brothel, I swear. The principal is not a pimp, and my English teacher is not a prostitute named "Sugar Baby".
541:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 12:52:20
I bodytouched her while hugging her!
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.ne.jp)
542:加奈陀人
09/01/08 12:53:57
>>537
Don't get me wrong, all kidding aside, most male teachers wouldn't hug a female student.
But some do. It's never really been an issue at my school, although I doubt the higher-ups are aware of it.
I go to a Catholic school, surprisingly.
Anyway, I'm not condoning this sort of behaviour...
543:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 12:57:04
>>539
In the bottom of mind, I was eager to hug the lady, but I'm coward, so I couldn't.
Putting aside my kidding, I think Free Hug Movement doesn't suit Japanese culture.
In fact, as far as I saw there, only a few people gathered aroung the two man and woman,
and most of them were women.
544:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 12:57:11
>>538
But Girls you said are white girls, I assume.
545:加奈陀人
09/01/08 12:57:32
>>538
I chose the course on my own, but I had already fulfilled the requirements for art.
I had actually planned on becoming an artist, as I (think) I have a knack for it.
But I have instead chosen to go into Media Studies, Journalism or English.
546:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 13:00:03
>>542
You said you were not Christian.
But Christian value must be instilled into your body
unconciously because you are brought up in that culutre since
your birth.
547:加奈陀人
09/01/08 13:02:19
>>546
Of course. I have rejected it as much as I can, but there is a part of me that will always be Catholic. And that's fine; as I age perhaps I'll find myself drawn back to Catholicism, if only for comfort in death.
548:米人
09/01/08 13:21:22
Pascal's Wager (simplified): you might as well believe in God, because if you believe
and there is no God, then no harm done;
but if you choose not to believe in God, and there actually is a God,
well, now you're in trouble.
This has actually been used as an argument for believing in God, but
isn't it a little too much based on self interest?
549:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 13:24:23
>>548
I'm very impressed...
550:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 13:28:41
I think that idea is practical so as to educate people.
If a potential criminal hear it, he may resist his temptation.
551:Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s
09/01/08 13:29:14
>>548
It isn't easy for some people to indoctrinate themselves into believing in
God if they have already rationalized that God cannot exist.
But Christian values aren't so bad, I think. Avoiding the cardinal sins
and following the virtues drive one's life in a better direction even if
they aren't religious.
552:米人
09/01/08 13:34:08
The atheist's response, of course, is "Which God do you pick?
There's a lot of them out there...what if you pick the wrong one?"
There is a point in that, I suppose.
In which case, just declare yourself a Unitarian and be done with it.
553:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 13:34:14
If there exists God, I can assert that he or she is not a man like
a jew born about 2000 years ago.
554:Captain Spicard ◆mOdChRomEs
09/01/08 13:41:05
Hasn't this religion talk gone on for a day or more now?
Are we getting anywhere?
555:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 13:43:47
I'm in bed, btw.
556:米人
09/01/08 13:46:27
>>553
I can understand where you are coming from. I myself am not comfortable
with the idea of claiming a monopoly on Truth.
For me personally, Jesus's words in the New Testament are very meaningful
and I can believe that they are divinely inspired. But I was raised in
the Christian church, so they are familiar and comforting. If I had been
born in a different part of the world, I can't say that I would feel the same.
557:米人
09/01/08 13:50:10
>>554
Sorry, I wasn't here yesterday, so I wouldn't know.
I'm not trying to recruit anyone though.
Believe or not, your choice.
>>555
That's where I should be. 'Night all!
558:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 13:50:52
>>556
I don't know if he was noble man or not.
Even so, I just wanted to say Jesus was a human.
559:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 13:54:31
God possessed a jew in Israel and made him talk the truth?
Under this theory we could say Jesus is God..
I dont think God made him talk though.
560:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 14:00:53
Do Christians believe the resurrecrion of Jesus like
米人 ressurected on this board?
From this point Jesus is not a human.
Then again God imbued life into a dead body and,,,
He was killed by roman army. That's it.
561:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 14:02:56
Who killed Jesus and how?
562:加奈陀人
09/01/08 14:05:57
>>548
The whole idea of believing in God just in case he DOES exist is pretty selfish, I agree.
But as much as I'd like to say that I will never fall into that category, I can't, because in the end death frightens me, as it does many others.
It isn't the pain of death, but what happens after the fact. Before I became an atheist I had something to look forward to, a reward at the end of the maze,
but now I am faced with two options after I die:
If I'm right, I will vanish into nothingness. If I'm wrong, I will spend eternity in a horrible reality.
Plus, I'm just an idiot teenager. My world view could shift entirely in a single month.
563:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 14:06:51
Do Christians really believe God is like human-being
with four limbs and face?
Do you imagine Jesus Christ whey you imagine God?
Jesus looked like Sdam Hussein URLﾘﾝｸ(papundits.files.wordpress.com)
rather than him URLﾘﾝｸ(tallskinnykiwi.typepad.com)
as far as lookings go.
Imagin Sadam Hussein in the night sky. He is watching us.
564:加奈陀人
09/01/08 14:08:45
>>563
That was funny and creepy at the same time.
565:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 14:13:01
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.jesusposter.net)
Did Vikings invade middle east just like they
invaded America?
I've heard of Vinlander.
566:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 14:14:44
If God is nice enough, he will save us regardless of faith,
and if not, he's a jerk and I'd rather vanish into nothingness.
567:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 14:16:22
ＤＯ Ｉ Ｄｏ Ｉ Ｄｏ Ｉ Ｄｏ Ｉ Ｄｏ Ｉ Ｄｏ ｍｙ ｌｏｖｅ ｔｏ ｙｏｕ！
Ｄｏ Ｉ Ｄｏ， Ｄｏ Ｉ Ｄｏ！！
568:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 14:22:12
Invaded was a strong word. Vikings Landed on America
and setteld for a while. They prerished for some reason.
569:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 14:24:02
Wow vinland was in Canada, not in America. I didn't know.
570:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 14:26:51
Could you possibly tell me what exactly "Love me do" means.
And please tell me what grammar item is applied to the phrase.
I don't think "love" isn't a verb used like "make" or "get".
- Make someone do something
- Get someone to do something
Do you think "love someone do something" is a generally used phrase?
571:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 14:37:44
Do love me.
多分。
572:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 21:12:26
is anybody here?
573:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 21:17:40
no
574:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/08 21:34:34
>566
What is life?
Life is growing and weaking, isn't it?
575:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 22:07:59
>>566
Hell is your eternal home. Go there with >>574!
576:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 22:14:36
E.T homo phone
577:aus tw
09/01/08 22:38:39
Before start discussing whether or not should we believe in god (I know, it's already too late), can someone define what god is first?
578:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 22:44:50
God is Slim Shady and Slim Shady is in all of us.
579:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 22:54:59
Real Gachimuchi Shady?
URLﾘﾝｸ(jp.youtube.com)
580:【スパーキー(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso.
09/01/08 23:34:06
...........................
there is a part 127 ready for use
581:【スパーキー(4 ^ヮ^)】 ミ田 ◆AZWpeumso.
09/01/08 23:39:28
URLﾘﾝｸ(4chan.b33r.net)
UPDATE
582:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/08 23:57:16
>>577
Before start discussing whether or not should we believe in god (I know, it's already too late), can someone define what god is first?
↓
Correct
・Can anyone define what got is to be, before starting to discuss whether we shoud believe in god or not?(I know, it's already too late.)
583:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 00:05:54
I think god is nothing but a mere notion.
584:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 00:10:24
It's 5℃ out now, but with the windchill, it feels below freezing.
It's smells like it's going to snow tomorrow.
585:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 01:02:11
You can smell and judge if it snows or not?
You sound like a dog or something.
586:ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc
09/01/09 01:05:33
I used to be a Christian, technically.
I'm an atheist now, though. I never could take the stories in the Bible as seriously as the people around me.
And I never enjoyed the long periods of singing and praising God that occurred at church.
Whenever that happened, I'd wait until no one was looking at me, then quietly sit down.
I'd quickly become bored, and be forced to read the only book I had with me--the Bible.
It was actually an annotated version, so I ended up reading the annotations, too.
This was actually part of what brought me to atheism.
There are a lot of nice events, ideas, and attitudes in the Bible.
However, there are a lot of terrible ones, too...
587:ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc
09/01/09 01:13:22
>>559
Incidentally, does "possess" not have the same connotation in Japanese?
When people in English-speaking countries say "possess", they're usually
thinking of something along the lines of The Exorcist.
By the way, most Christians believe in the concept of the Trinity--
That is, that God exists as three "persons" (God the Father, God the Son,
and God the Holy Spirit), but is one being.
To be honest, I don't fully understand it myself.
588:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 01:26:42
>>587
some english-japanese dictionary say that should be "haunt" as an intransitive.
589:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 01:28:35
I have to admit that I was surprised to know that quite a lot of people from English speaking
countries here call themselves atheist.
I didn't think it's easy to become an athiest in countries of Christianity
such as the US. It's just that the moment you declare you are an athiest,
you can become atheist? Simple as that?
You had your excess skin of your penis cut when you were born right?
That's because you or at least your parents are Christians, right?
If you claim you are an athiest, you won't have a doctor cut
the skin of your baby boy's penis?
I know this question is rediculous.
590:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 01:46:02
>>586
You can despise Christianity as much as you want because it's been a lie for nearly 2,000 years.
But how can you deny a gospel of Jesus Christ?
You can be a Christian without attedning any Chruch.
I wish to hear more about your story on switching from "Christianity" to "Atheism" if you don't mind of course.
591:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 01:49:48
I was gay.
592:ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc
09/01/09 02:08:12
>>589
You're talking about circumcision, right?
I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that in the USA, most male infants are circumcised regardless of religion.
In other words, it isn't really a religious issue.
Today, most Christian denominations are neutral concerning circumcision.
Judaism calls for it, though.
593:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 02:19:59
Is this CNET TV thing is exclusively online?
URLﾘﾝｸ(cnettv.cnet.com)
Or do they stream online the same show as the ones broadcast on cable TV
or something?
594:ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc
09/01/09 02:23:52
>>590
There isn't much to say.
I'm just not the kind of person who's blindly obedient.
because of this, I asked a lot of questions...
Also, I realized that the only reason I believed (as little as I did)
in Christianity was because I had encountered it first.
Had I been born elsewhere, or to some other parents, I might have been
raised as the devout follower of some other religion.
I wondered: what was it that made Christianity so much more valid than
other religions?
There's nothing, right?
Also, I'm the sort of person who requires evidence.
I'm too grounded in the rational to believe in any religion, I think.
Lastly, the God of the old testament was sort of a dick.
He did all sorts of rotten things...
Even if that God was real, I don't think I could follow him.
595:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 02:34:06
>>592
Yes, I was talking about circumcision.
So, it has nothing to do with religion. I didn't know that.
When do you have your penis circumsise?
Right after you are born or later?
596:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/09 02:39:31
A man is a weak being.
He grows old, becomes weak, becomes unable and die.
Living is not always fun. Sometimes it's hard, other times it's too hard to keep living.
So a man seeks salvation.
He seeks great power that rules the world.
He seeks God.
He will be happy if he finds truly powerful thing.
He will be miserable if he finds pretentiously powerful thing.
Seek, then he doesn't fail to find it.
What Jesus told people us true wether you say God is or God is not.
597:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/09 02:40:55
What Jesus told people is true wether you say God is or God is not.
598:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/09 02:52:03
Why does the penis need its skin cut off?
Japanese baby boys don't have the skin cut off.
You can peel the skin off the penis head and make it used to be peeled off.
599:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 03:36:45
>>585
You have got to be kidding me!
I am surprised to know you have no idea that there is a well-known expression such as "smell like."
When judging by smell what happens in the future, we use "smell like."
If you catch good smell of a curry from the kitchen, you surely expect you wii be able to have a curry.
It also holds true for the weather forecast. Or have you never smelt of rain?
600:ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc
09/01/09 03:39:11
>>595
Right after birth.
601:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 03:53:17
Today circumcision seems not to be popular in the US
because hygiene merits turned out to be a myth.
I'm not sure of my memory though.
602:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 04:04:36
>>589
カナダ人 calls himself athiest. But he has an enrollment in
Catholic church and his parenents are devoted Catholic and he goes to
Catholic school.
Even if he callse himself athiest, he has been surrouded by christian
thigns all his life.
603:ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc
09/01/09 04:10:02
>>602
To me, that makes him especially qualified to fight for atheism.
Who better to debate with a Christian than a former Christian--someone who also has knowledge of Christianity and the Bible?
604:ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc
09/01/09 04:10:55
Unless there has been a dramatic change in the past few years,
circumcision rates should be somewhere around 60%.
605:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 04:32:54
Who better to debate with a Christian than a former Christian--someone who also has knowledge of Christianity and the Bible?
What does it mean? who better to ?
606:Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s
09/01/09 04:36:02
>>589
My sister is very religious and so is my brother, but I am not. In fact, my
probably my entire family genuinely believes in God. I don't recall
ever believing that God exists, even when I was a very young boy. My grandparents
used to read to me stories from the Bible (when I was around 4-5) and I would think
to myself that they all sound like some kind of ridiculous, made-up fairy tale.
607:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 05:18:05
>>606
Does that mean you can laugh it away when someone approches you and tells you that Hell is your eternal home?
608:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/01/09 05:19:39
>>594
I could have written this post, but substitute Christianity with Judaism.
Enough religion talk though.
So I have this stereotype in my mind about Japan and this article reminded me of it:
URLﾘﾝｸ(search.japantimes.co.jp)
My idea of the Japanese workforce is that men dominate every level, with women mostly being
secretaries or similar positions. And then of course once they marry they become housewives.
Sorry if this sounds ignorant, but I'm very curious about women in the Japanese workforce.
609:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 05:27:07
>>608
Actually, what you've just posted doesn't sound ignorant at all.
When it comes to an issue of women wokring in Japan, glass shields against them are everywhere.
Things are changing from the bottom. I mean from working class people. Their wages are getting smaller and smaller.
Thus both the husband and wife have to work just to feed themselves.
610:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 05:33:33
I heard that when Japanese people are Christened they get a
Christian name. What about you people in Christian countries?
When you were born, you recieved a Christian name?
If so, that can be a sign to tell if you're Chrstian or an atheist.
Even if you declare you're an athiest, you are Christian as long as
you have a Christian name.
>>600
I see.
611:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 05:51:09
Many japanese women's first aim is to real on men's budget.
Some get treated as much as they are worth. And that's not bad thing.
Lack of their motivation is one issue. They are choosing their own way.
And exaggeration is another issue.
I know a certain publishing company like benesse corporation is equally?
dominated by women.
Benesse is a big company which usually is on the top ten lists among
university students.
612:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 06:13:24
URLﾘﾝｸ(job.nikkei.co.jp)
Q8女性社員が目立ちますが、男性社員も活躍しているのでしょうか？
A8 社員の約６割が女性ですので、確かに女性社員の数の方が多いです。
しかし、男女の区別なく仕事をする環境ですので、当社ホームページでも
紹介しているように、男性社員も数多く活躍しています。
Q8 Female employee's perfomance is prominant. Aren't there male employees
who are active?
A8 A sixth of employees is women so it's true the number of women
outnumers that of men's.
However this is the enviroment where we can work regardless of genders,
there are many male employees who are active as our home page shows.
-----------------
I'm not confident about my translation. But it should bring core
meanings.
I heard mens felt small in the corporation..
In general men are always swayed by women all the place all the time.
We make an effort to answer their expectations not to be disliked by them.
In japan men's are considered to be just the machine to bring
money. Housewives would go to karaoke and lessons in husband's abscence.
Decades ago there was a buzz words that "husbands are good when they are both healthy
and not at home". It doesnot imply abuse at home and as such. Houswives
declare "bring money but I don't want to do housewive job for you!
I don't wanna see your old face. I would rather see kimura takuya or
someon on TV"
It doesn't entirely explain japanese situaiton.
But that's also true.
613:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 06:17:35
A sixth of employees
NoNO.
Six tenths of employees is women.
More simpley 60%.
614:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 06:30:21
>>608
You're right.
I read somewhere about statsitcs on percentage of women who are in
manegerial postion in companies and the percentage of female politicians
worldwide. I don't remeber precise figures but Japan isn't ranked high, meaning
not many women are in such positions in a company or are politicians.
There is a term "glass ceiling" in English as used in the article, but
America has a larger number of female managers or politicians than Japan
according to the statistics I vaguely remember. You went as far as nearly
to elect female president.
Things have changed slowly in Japan. Some companies try to promote more female
worker to important positons not because of the gender equality perspective
but because they know that works in favor of their benefits. To survive
severe competition in business, you can't ignore female perspective in
products development, marketing, customer satisfaction and the stuff.
615:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 06:30:43
>And then of course once they marry they become housewives.
This trend has been changing, too. More and more Japanese women think
they want to get involved in society by working so more and more people
go back to workforce after their kids need less care. In a big company
they have a program ready for female workers to come back after
maternity leave. Even women who don't work for a big company try to
start doing part-time job because they want to get involved with society
by working. Adding her small income to her husband income and total
househould income's increase is a bonus.
If their husbands income isn't sufficient, they have no options but
to go back to work again after their kids need less care.
I don't think I welcome such women in the article with open arms. I'm amazed by their acheivement
but I have to admit I kind of am jealous of them because their salary
is hefty as a pilot. I felt disgusting to be honset. Women in cockpit?
Give me a break. It's like, what you have to hold isn't the control stick,
but my cock! And rub it hard and fast! Wash my dirty underwear and
cook nice meals.
616:ベイエリア人 ◆wI.9LiivDc
09/01/09 06:45:27
>>605
"Who better to" is the same as "who would be better to".
>>610
Do you mean that those people get new names when they convert to Christianity?
I've never heard of such a ritual before.
Really, do names have that much power?
Sure, someone might name a child after a Christian figure, but that's the parent's choice.
There are probably plenty of Christians with names that aren't of Biblical origin.
There are probably plenty of Atheists with names of Biblical origin.
Perhaps this is a misunderstanding.
Strictly speaking, the term "Christian name" refers to a name formally given to a child at its baptism, or "christening".
However, sometimes the term "Christian name" is used as a synonym for "given name", without regard for religion.
It's not a common term, though.
617:Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s
09/01/09 07:01:12
When talking to people, I just say I'm protestant to avoid any drama. Officially,
I am Christian.
However, I don't really believe any of it.
618:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 07:14:35
I've never seen someone with christian name.
There are japanese names such as まりあ maria 真理亜 to Maria.
I dont know the origin. まりあ might come from Maria.
Wow I remember the one, 戸田アレクシ哲 toda Alexi tetsu.
He is half Japanese in blood line thogh.
619:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 08:09:43
>>616
>Do you mean that those people get new names when they convert to Christianity?
Yeah. It's just a name you get when you convert to Christianity.
It's not that your Japanese name is abondoned after becoming a Christian.
Maybe it's just serves as a proof that you sure changed to Christianity.
>>618
I think アレクシ is just a middle name.
620:Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s
09/01/09 08:10:13
I was thinking today... is it very easy to make song lyrics in Japanese?
I was thinking that rhyming would be a cinch since there isn't much variation
in the endings of words.
621:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 08:24:30
>>620
While ryming in songs written in English was common even before
Rap emerged, in case of Japanese songs, there were no such things
as ryming in Japanese songs' lyrics.
It was not until rap music was imported to Japan and Japanese rap musicians
emerged that ryming in lyrics appeared.
622:イギリス人
09/01/09 09:15:13
>>616
I have a friend at a university over there, and she introduced me to
one of her friends, who is a Christian (and Japanese). She doesn't go
by her given name anymore, instead choosing to be called 'Anna', after
Saint Anna.
623:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 09:35:40
I guess she was ohura anna.
624:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
09/01/09 09:36:31
>>609, >>611-615
Thanks for the replies, that's really interesting that the stereotype is actually becoming less applicable.
What about women in fields that require advanced degrees, i.e. scientists, doctors, lawyers, professors, etc.?
625:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 09:43:23
Female doctor's ratio is 15.6% from this article.
URLﾘﾝｸ(kasamatsu.sakura.ne.jp)
I read on another site that women who passed
the medical exam has been over 30% for consecutive years.
626:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 09:49:11
URLﾘﾝｸ(209.85.175.132)
Female professor on average : 10.5%
Female professor in state-run universities: 6.6%
Female professor in university of tokyo : 3.8%
The date is September 2006.
627:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 09:51:21
I don't know whetehr compulsory equality is good or not.
Those who promote these things are usually single and don't have
children.
And not beautiful in most cases. lol
628:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 09:52:23
>>624
When it comes to job openings in Japanese universities and colleges, as far as I know,
their first choice of successful candidates is single male applicants,
the second is married male applicants, the third is married female applicants, and believe or not,
their last choice is single female applicants. Things work quite differently on the other side of the Pacific.
629:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 10:39:43
>>620
English and Japanese are different in terms of isochrony. Your mother tongue is a stress-timed language, and mine is mora-timed.
Also, because of this difference and phonetic dissimilarity,
Japanese encodes semantic information into sounds in a strikingly different way from European languages.
It is virtually impossible to explain what's going on if you only speak one language,
but if you encode meanings into notes in a song the same way as you do in English,
then you give very little information to a song.
I know this doesn't make sense to you; it's like teaching people living in a desert the difference between the crawl and the breaststroke.
But the point is that we use time and sounds in a different way to convey meanings, and
this makes it entirely different to write and sing a song.
You'll be surprised when you compare Japanese versions of famous English songs.
Semantically very little can be encoded in such songs in Japanese
because the style forces translators to use a skewed poem writing method that only works in different isochrony and phonology.
630:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 10:57:15
Believe it or not?
I don't believe.
Any source?
First of all, women who chose science course are limited and
few. They are only 15% of entire departments.
There is no discrimination in college entrance examination.
Women prefers to choose literature, English and Art and stuff like that.
As for English professors, femal professors seems to be around
30% from my experience and hunch.
631:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 11:07:29
>>630
>hunch
Whenever I read this word, I hear it in Crispin Freeman's voice.
Some words are too strongly associated with certain voices so the voice in my head suddenly changes into the corresponding ones.
Now I'm writing this hearing his cool voice!
632:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 11:38:43
>>618
>Wow I remember the one, 戸田アレクシ哲 toda Alexi tetsu.
This reminds me of the days when I was preparing for the entrance exam.
He was always on the top 3 list at every trial exam and everyone my age who wanted to go to a prestigious university knew him lol.
I didn't think アレクシ was his real name when I saw his name for the first time.
Well, I failed and Tokyo University rejected me by the way...
633:米人
09/01/09 12:03:29
Everyone please be nice to me. I'm having a tough day.
Today I went to my first aerobics class in ten years.
The name of the class was "Basic Training", and so I assumed that
it was a beginner's class. But when I got there, I found out that
what it really meant was "Aerobics Boot Camp". Lots of jumping
on and off a step, high leg kicks and really uncomfortable
stretching with weights.
Man, am I out of shape.
634:米人
09/01/09 12:08:47
Then tonight I came home from a meeting and my husband informed me
that our dishwasher died. Not at the end of the cycle, but right at
the beginning. So now I have to wash and dry all of today's dishes.
It's a lot when you have to do it all at one time.
The worst is the silverware--there's so much of it.
Do you think I can get everyone to use disposable chopsticks until
we can get a new one? They sell huge boxes of them at the local Chinese
supermarket, real cheap.
I can't stand plastic cutlery, so that's not an option.
Ah well, back to the kitchen...[exit stage left]
635:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/09 12:35:37
I was baptized at my age of 38 at a Mennonite Christian church in Japan.
We don't get a naming by baptism.
You are you all your life.
Making yourself called with other names than yours will make you feel weird.
636:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 12:38:42
The aerobics class must have been affected by Biily's boot camp and turned itself into harder one.
Keep your tough exsercise or you may have a special nice body some day.
From the ecological point of view, disposable chopsticks aren't recommended with open mind.
637:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 12:49:22
In some cases disposable chopsticks, or wooden chopsticks made by chinese are bad for the health.
And their wooden chopsticks may be with bleach.
Even if wooden chopsticks made by chinese have reasonable price, I won't buy it.
638:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
09/01/09 12:56:22
Billy's boot and stretch is too hard work.
But it may get you lose weight rapidly.
But it will make you stressful and make you feel like eating to escape your stress.
Then all efforts go vainfully.
639:Tennessean ◆3VadybvJ.s
09/01/09 13:01:56
>>621
>>629
I see, thank you for your responses. That is really interesting, though,
that Japanese songs used to (and still do) convey emotion and meaning without
rhyming.
640:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 13:02:42
>>638
No diets don't need mental toughness.
641:米人
09/01/09 13:08:47
Free at last!
No, I won't buy disposable anything then.
I've seen nice painted? laquered? chopsticks at the Japanese store up
in Cambridge. They come in sets of 4, each pair is a different color, maybe so each
person can have their own set? But they are a little expensive. And face it,
it's difficult to eat macaroni and cheese, or make a peanut butter sandwich with
chopsticks. I wonder how you would tackle lasagne, probably with a knife and fork.
642:米人
09/01/09 13:13:36
Lord knows I need to lose weight.
I don't think it will be that rapid though. I have the metabolism of a
three toed sloth.
But it's probably more important for me just to get some exercise
for my mental and physical health. I'm one of those people who gets
the winter blues.
643:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 13:23:39
>>641
Every Japanese person has his/her own pair of chopsticks, and each family has at least
one knife and fork to eat western cuisine.
So, as you mentioned, we eat those western foods with a knife, fork and spoon just as western people do.
644:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 13:33:04
>>638
Oh, man, have you ever tried doing Billy's boot camp ?
>>642
So do I!
Then, sorry to ask this a little personal question, but could you tell me your height
if you don't mind ? (I never have any intention to ask your weight after this question)
This is just out of my curiousity since western women are tall in general.
645:米人
09/01/09 13:36:20
I like those pretty Japanese chopsticks they sell at Tokai.
Maybe I will get a set after I pay for the new dishwasher,
whenever that will be.
646:米人
09/01/09 13:43:01
>>644
5'6"
which is 165 cm, give or take
I'm about 1 inch taller than American female average height.
Don't bother asking my weight; I would just lie anyways.
647:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 13:55:59
>>646
haha, thanks indeed.
Well, your heights corresponds with the image about you.
With regard to the average height of U.S. women, it's a little smaller than I guessed.
648:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
09/01/09 14:34:42
Perhaps, general consensus about the definition of an adult will change in less than
a few years or so.
If children are supposed to become an adult at the age of 18, then the ritual for those twenty people
, which caled seijinn-shiki, will also change.
This can cause troubles because there is a two years interval and so some children cannot attend the ritual.
I just mutterd to myself.
The day after tomorrow, seijin-shiki is held.