08/10/12 02:32:45
>>417
The surname 'Holland' originated Anglo-Saxon times, in Britain. It's
completely unrelated to the Holland region in the Netherlands (the region's
name comes from the old Dutch word 'holtland', whereas the surname
apparently comes from the Anglo-Saxon word 'hough' with a territorial
suffix.
The Netherlands itself is a really nice place, with friendly people. It
can be a bit crazy there, sometimes, though.
420:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 02:50:38
>>417
Personally I can't stand any of the candidates. I usually don't like
to get into political discussions, as they nearly always end in pointless
arguments, but I'll speak a little on the subject.
As far as the presidential election is concerned, either McCain or Obama
will win in my country. Most likely the latter. I have a fairly negative
opinion of both of them.
McCain seeks to continue Bush's policies, which
quite obviously haven't been working too well for us. He's essentially
Bush v2.0. Furthermore, his choice for Vice President, Palin, has absolutely
no experience and considers 'being able to see Russia' from Alaska as
'foreign policy experience.' The number of people she governs in Alaska
is fewer than many of the single counties in my state! She has no
significant experience, and avoids questions concerning policy. Another
problem is more of a liability issue; if McCain, in his old age and with
his poor book of health, up and dies on us... we're stuck with Palin as
a president! I can't imagine how fast she'd assist in driving this country
further into the ground.
Obama also has no experience, and tends to avoid questions about policy
and about how he will handle whatever situation is in question. He simply
skirts around the question, yells the words "CHANGE" and "HOPE" at the crowd,
and the sheep cheer.
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Part 1/2
421:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 02:51:10
I must admit I haven't really paid much attention to third party candidates
this election.
Either way, both are bad choices. We can only hope we get the lesser of
the evils. Our economy, as well as many other economies around the world,
are falling at the moment. However, this isn't the first time this has
happened, and I highly doubt it will be the last. Just have to ride it out,
and pray the politicians will start making the right decisions (and retards
will stop trying to live beyond their means, piling up debt).
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Part 2/2
422:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 02:59:38
>>419
OH, thanks. It can be concluded that Anglo-saxon and Dutch and north-west german
have the same origin. You are very literate.
I am a your fan. I'm glad to receive the answer from you
for the first time in a month or so. You seem to be very busy in your business
these days.
423:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 03:22:43
Palin has rich experiences of governing Moose and polar bears.
The largest number of them inhabit there so naturally she's the ideal
vice president followed by Michael Jackson.
424:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 03:44:50
>>423
Rofl.
425:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 04:02:45
>>424
Have you ever seen Manaty with your own eyes? Your house is away from Evergray?
I saw on TV yesterday featuring Evergray in which they introduced
aligator and Manaty. They said that an aligator is not so ferocious then
we imagine.
Manaty is so friendly and two of them got closer to a boat in which
they film them. Some of them got in water with a snorkel and touched them.
Touching them with both hands is prohibited because Manaties
feel as if they were hold and they get scared. Some of them have scars
made by boats speeding.
In some areas they are suppoesed to run with idol speed noy to scare and
hurt manaties.
426:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 04:20:27
>>425
Yes, I've seen Manatees and Alligators. I live in Florida. There are
places where you cannot use a boat because of manatees, as they are
a protected species.
Alligators are usually only aggressive toward humans if they have been
fed by humans, because from then on they associate the scent of
humans with food. Otherwise, they usually do their best to avoid humans...
though they may aggressively protect their territory if they have
young.
427:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 04:29:39
>>426
I see. I was surpeised to know that a manatee can grow as large as 4 meter or
13 feet. Alligators on shore escaped into water when they saw people.
That makes sense. Sounds like a tiger who has eaten human come back to a
villiage and attack human again.
428:230
08/10/12 05:04:38
おまえら、馬鹿か？日本人なら日本語で話せや。ながったらしい英語書きやがって。全然意味わからんだろうが。
429:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 05:18:20
>>420
Palin was a sessionist. Some white patriots pray for the
death of Maccain (their another enemy)
and expect Palin to steer your nation to good old white america.
But some white patriots suspect her pedigree of jewish lineage.
"Less evil is better" policy in sinuates that you will voter for Obama.
Or are you a supporter of Ralph Nader or Buchanan?
>>421
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.holland08.com)
Here is Holland's site.
Don't you think a man with English (fonder of your nation) surname deserves to
be the President?
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.politics1.com)
And you have many many great candidates other than two.
They should be equally covered in your biased media.
430:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 05:26:55
Wow, I didn't check Nader is runnnig for the president again.
And CONSTITUTION PARTY is near the ideology of Buchanan.
431:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 05:29:48
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.geneamondson.com)
Who is this?
I won't be bothered if he become the prime minister.
I usually don't drink.
432:28chan Supporter
08/10/12 05:52:14
>>417
I'd rather not get into politics. 'Tis getting rather silly at this point.
433:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 06:02:34
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.geneamondson.com)
Would someone do the dictation of this video for me?
Please add words or correct my words.
I'm Gene Amondson. I'm running for President of
United States, America's third oldest party.
While I was prohibition greatest 30 years.
Prison medal liberals can't have.
from 50% down to 30%. Vote traditon, vote prohibition.
I need your vote.
434:ギリギリ君 ◆D1A7cJqOrA
08/10/12 07:17:29
>>423
According to Voice Of America, Palin was speaking about Obama's
association with William Ayres, a college professor who founded a
radical group called the Weather Underground in the 1960s.
The group claimed responsibility for bombings on several government
buildings as a form of protest during the Vietnam War. Ayres never
refuted the claims, but was also never convicted, and later went on
to an academic career in Chicago that brought him into contact with
Barack Obama.
435:イギリス人
08/10/12 07:30:10
>>433
To me, it sounded like...
I'm Gene Amondson. I'm running for President of
the United States, [something] America's third oldest party.
While I was prohibition, America's greatest 13 years
Because our prisons emptied, our mental institutions emptied
sclerosis of the liver was cut in half: from 15% down to 7%.
Vote tradition, vote prohibition.
I need your vote.
436:28chan Supporter
08/10/12 08:47:19
>>435
I was thinking the same thing. The message he got across seemed a bit inconsistent.
437:イギリス人
08/10/12 10:10:29
>>435
Argh... cirrhosis of the liver, sorry... a bit burned out
lately.
438:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 10:25:21
>>412
What's negative about that? I just stated what I personally thought/guessed.
If you think that's negative, then you are the one who is being a negative twat.
I knew it was used as a derogatory term during the war, but after all jap is just an
abbreviation of the word Japanese and WW2 = 60 yrs ago.
I've seen many people who like Japan and still use jap as an abbreviation, like
how we casually use gaijin even though we know they hate it.
I do take offense when someone *directly* calls me a jap, but I don't when it's used
as a casual abbreviation. Likewise, I don't directly call a foreigner gaijin but use the
word all the time when talking with friends.
>>408
Always eat natto with rice. Seen way too many westerners eating natto without rice.
Also, don't put soy sauce in natto. It will taste like shit. Use the sauce that comes with the package.
439:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 10:28:32
Oh god, I tried natto while in Tokyo at the behest of another person
in the guest house. It was one of the most disgusting things I have
ever put in my mouth. x.x Never again!
440:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 10:30:38
>>435
Thanks.
For me, ty and teen like fifty and fifteen
are always confusing. And his
Thing even primary students can understand is hard for most of
English learners in Japan.
>While I was prohibition, America's greatest 13 years
This sentence seems lacking some words.
While I was in prohibition, America is in the greatest 13 years.
make more sense to me. Is he talking broken English or
am I just ignorant?
Because our prisons emptied, our mental institutions emptied
cirrhosis of the liver was cut in half:
it makes sense. I wonder why alcohol dependant Bush can lead the
movement of christian right.
441:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 10:33:09
(Sorry for double post)
I just re-read my post; please do not take offense, as I can see how it
could be seen as offensive. I have a policy to try something before I
"diss" it, so to speak, and I just found natto to be extremely
unpalatable personally.
442:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 10:40:44
I've seen many people who like Japan and still use jap as an abbreviation, like
how we casually use gaijin even though we know they hate it.
So they are ignorant. And don't generalize two words.
They have quite different historical meaning. Not just a abbreviation.
Chink and Gook are abbreviations too. Gook are abbreviation of hangook.
Paki is so famous that pakistan frinedly people never use it.
Don't liken gaijin to jap. You are helpless because you know
jap is bad word. It's your duty to correct them.
443:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 10:42:03
>>441
It's acquired taste like alligator's balls
444:28chan Supporter
08/10/12 10:47:20
>>440
Bush? Alcohol-dependent? I doubt it.
But in any case, I think he leaves words out unintentionally. It might be that he's talking so fast that he doesn't notice he's leaving out a few words, but you still get his overall message.
445:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 10:59:12
Also, don't put soy sauce in natto. It will taste like shit. Use the sauce that comes with the package.
??? I always add a little soy sauce in natto with prepared natto sauce.
Prepared sauce is rich in dashi but too mild for me.
And soy sauce only is O.K for me. It's still hard task for me
to adjust bitterness and mildness.
For foreigners, stir natto neary 100 times with chopstick or spoon.
Natto will be sticky and it is producing something sticky which
is good for your health.
446:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 11:06:52
>>434's English appears to be almost perfect.
How do foreigners here think?
Without prior knowledge ギリギリ is japanese, can you notice
something not native?
ギリギリ is progressing day by day.
447:28chan Supporter
08/10/12 11:18:43
>>446
It sounds like an except from an article.
448:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 11:19:18
I am a native of California.
If you hadn't told me otherwise, I wouldn't have believed that >>434 is Japanese.
449:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 11:26:01
URLﾘﾝｸ(jp.youtube.com)
Does he sound native american or totally non-native American?
URLﾘﾝｸ(en.wikipedia.org)(state)#Politics
The people are predominantly German-speaking with a unique (and easily recognizable)
Southern Austro-Bavarian dialect {typical of which is that}
all short German vowels before double consonants have been lengthened
Can someone analize the sentence above? I especially can't understand
pracket part{}.
450:28chan Supporter
08/10/12 11:26:47
>>448
I'm also a Californian.
451:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 11:27:35
Sorry... bracket part.
452:28chan Supporter
08/10/12 11:32:08
>>449
His accent's pretty good.
The part in the brackets means that the dialect features lengthened German vowels, which are usually short, before double consonants.
453:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 11:36:05
>>447-448
I see. While I can only write japanese English unlike him, at least
I can see the difference between japanese English and others. That's a relief.
lol.
454:28chan Supporter
08/10/12 11:41:51
>>453
That's a rather odd phrase you're using there, "Japanese English". So this implies there's an "English English"?
But yeah, glad to be of service.
>>449
I think I can elaborate a bit more on this.
There exists people. These people speak German with a Southern Austro-Bavarian dialect. In that dialect, German vowels (which are usually short) before double consonants have been lengthened.
I don't know what exactly you meant by analyzing the sentence, but I hope this helps.
455:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 11:56:22
>>454
I think I understand!
typical of "which" is that all short German vowels before double consonants have been lengthened
"which" 's antecedent must be Austro-Bavarian dialect. If there is a
commma before "typical", it can be more understabdable for me.
I am used to a relative pronoun sentece like "club of which I'm a memer.
So I searched an object of "of".
But "typical of" is also an set phrase. Pretty complicated sentence for me.
456:ギリギリ君 ◆D1A7cJqOrA
08/10/12 11:57:08
>>446
Please don't deceive yourself.
The comment I left is almost all excerpted from VOA.
457:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 11:59:09
English by japanese sounds better?
ギリギリ's English has been good. But I can feel something by japanese
in them.
>>434 was exceptionally good and seemed perfect.
458:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 12:01:15
>>456
Then, what's your original parts?
459:28chan Supporter
08/10/12 12:02:15
>>456
A bit of wishful thinking doesn't hurt.
460:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 12:07:55
So I searched an object of "of".
Please forget this. of's object is apparently which. I mean
a word before "of".
461:ギリギリ君 ◆D1A7cJqOrA
08/10/12 12:42:40
>>457
Since I'm not still good at listening, I excerpted it from script's
version of VOA.
>>458
Only "According to Voice Of America".
>>459
You're right.
462:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 12:48:22
>>441
This is 2ch... You can hate on natto as much as you like and no one cares!!
I absolutely hated natto and then one day I saw the light and it was great.
>>442
I personally think it's a waste of energy to be offended by something thats intended
to be just an abbreviation, let alone "correct" them. Of course you can get pissed by it
and go correct them as much as you want. It's just, I don't.
I didn't say jap and gaijin are the same. It was about how they are used, not about
history and stuff. Polite Japanese ppl would never use gaijin, but I and many others
just don't care. That's the similarity I was talking about, or guessing about.
463:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 13:15:05
Just informing them and letting them go on their own is O.K.
Enthusiastically forcing them to correct sometimes go
reverse unless we don't have powerful interest group
like blacks and koreans...
As for gaijin, gaijin doesn't have strong and offensive
meaning. It's just that abbreviation is an idle thing and can be
rude term for people and refrained from at news and newspaper
and as such.
We don't feel anything particular when gaijin is refered.
Rather gaikokujin sounds wierd cos it's so formal like NHK news.
Gaijin is not refering to particular ethinic group.
Gaijin is most likely to point at white or caucasian people, sometimes blacks.
It's just that gaijin look pretty different from average japanese.
And Japanese are most vulnerable to westerners. Look
half-breed models on the cover of model magazine.
No racist, xenophobic connotation. We tend to aspire for the difference.
464:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 13:26:57
unless we have
Sorry. If they love japan and want to know japan, it's not meaningless
to know Jap has strong reminder of deragotary term intentionally targeting
at japanese, used by the US during WW2. I've read comic book hadashinogen and hear jap on TV
dramas. I don't have my own experience. But I do have very unplesant
feeling.
I think it's the problem that japanese loving people use the term jap.
I don't care if racists or koreans call us Jap. It's natural thing.
I care if Url of offcial site for japanese readers ends with Jap though.
LOL I've seen one from korean. They are using it intentionally.
465:アメリカ人
08/10/12 13:45:42
I think we're beating a dead horse here. Pretty much everyone seems to agree that "gaijin" is not offensive but the abbreviation "Jap" most definitely is.
>>463
Saying someone is a "half-breed" is offensive.
Btw, the time difference between America and Japan is really annoying. When I'm asleep it's late afternoon/night in Japan, which is when I assume most of the 日本人 post here.
466:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 14:07:49
Whoever started this moronic topic was non-Japanese, that's for sure
'cause that bitch(hey, I meant 'female dog' here) was looking for deragotary
terms other than Jap just to offend Japanese people or something. Lame.
467:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 14:08:15
Sometimes 年号 is annoying too.
nengo : inaugration era of a tennno.
I am not particularly against tennou system though.
It's sometimes tiring to change nengo to A.D.
We use both daily.
During edo era, era name was changed on various reasons including
tenno. Tenno was powerless. Syogun was the strongest.
But tenno has privilege to bakuhu(governing body).
468:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 14:17:18
>>465
It's realy annoying, especially when I play online games.
Our "golden time" = morning in America = noon in Europe
This is the only thing I hate about living in Japan.
469:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 14:24:17
I serached on the net. Era name during edo period is not consistent
of tenno inauguration period at all.
Sometimes era was even changed for the convinience of syogun.
You can see power struggle between bakuhu and tyoutei.
Bakuhu estteemed chotei's privilege but placed chotei in the hands of
bakuhu.
It can be compared to the relationship between emperor and pope.
470:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 14:25:28
>>466
Hey, I am that bitch. Got anything to ask?
471:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 14:29:56
Are you Zapanese?
472:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 14:30:29
>>469
I despise your spellings of japanese words. It's SHOgun, CHOutei, BakuFU.
473:アメリカ人
08/10/12 14:40:28
>>468
Wouldn't you only want to play on Japanese servers? The latency for US/European servers would be really high.
Guess it depends on the game though.
The time difference is especially strange with how it has affected the global economy. Since Japan is at least 12 hours ahead of USA, your stock market closes for the day before the US market opens for that day.
This means Americans can use the closing points of the Nikkei exchange to estimate how our stock markets will do. Before this economic crisis the time difference didn't really matter, but you can be sure that the USA stock exchange will go down
significantly with panic sales as a result of the Nikkei dropping 10%.
474:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 14:52:59
I think nikkei is not as influential as you say.
Nikkei is likely to rise after dowjone's rise and
go down after dowjone's decline.
It's a pattern. And big sell and buy orders are from overseas.
This means Americans can use the closing points of the Nikkei exchange to estimate how our stock markets will do.
--
we use your friday closing points.... It's very essential for japanese investers to know
the amount of buy and sell orders from overseas investers.
It's said that more than half of the investers in japanese markets are
foreigners. I guess americans are biggest among foreigners.
475:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 15:01:50
It's very essential for japanese investers to know
the amount of buy and sell orders from overseas investers
This sentence is not related to the sentence afterwards.
But in genral after U.S market plunged, japanese markets will be filled
with sell orders from abroad.
476:アメリカ人
08/10/12 15:11:17
>>474
yea, I stand corrected that this whole rise+drop is a part of pattern.
All I was thinking about were the articles I read in the New York Times which would update with the Nikkei closings and then sure enough the US exchange would drop later.
However, both obviously affect each other, making this economic crisis worse for all of us. The New York Times just had an article discussing whether we can learn from the Japanese bubble of the 90s:
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.nytimes.com)
477:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 15:14:24
>>465
This is not a chatroom but a message board so time differences around the
world don't matter at all. You can post whenever you want, read whenever
you like, you can even refer to comments posted one week or longer ago.
That's the beauty of a messsage board. Quick responses aren't what you
expect to be here. So take your time.
478:アメリカ人
08/10/12 15:16:34
>>477
I realize this, but when I have nothing better to do it would be nice to see more posts =P.
479:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 15:21:18
>>473
Latency is about 150-250ms to US west coast servers, and
350-500 to European servers. It's a clear disadvantage gameplay wise,
but playing with them helps learning English tremendously.
480:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 15:24:15
If I use "Jap" at all, it's only when writing as shorthand, and I
use a period after it to specifically identify it as an abbreviation.
Ex:
"Studying the Jap. language" <- What I would use
"Studying the Jap's language" <- Clearly meant in an offensive manner
"Studying the Jap. student's language" <- Acceptable
Also, to whomever said that "Chink" and "Gook" and such are abbreviations,
you are completely wrong. An abbreviation is derived from the original word
with the purpose of making it shorter (and, thus, faster to write).
Ex:
"Chin." for "Chinese"
"Viet." for "Vietnamese"
"Kor." for "Korean"
481:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 15:34:08
btw, who is this? >>406
"Schei e" is scheisse right?
482:アメリカ人
08/10/12 15:36:04
>>479
That's not terrible for US servers, it's about what I get for European servers.
What games, I'll try looking for you =P
483:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 15:53:51
外人 is the same as 国連, 国際連合.
>>480
so You use paki too.
484:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 15:55:25
>>482
Well nothing atm. The time difference got too annoying to pay the monthly fees.
485:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 15:59:29
I think it might be the root of the problem that 外人 itself has a negative
nuance.
But as foreigner and alian, foreigner means man of outside and
alian means another man.
486:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 16:01:03
>>483
Can't say I ever have used "paki." I don't know its connotation and it's
just not part of my personal vernacular. I'm more likely to say Pakistani.
On another note, I've seen Pakistanis calling other Pakistanis "Paki" in
chat-rooms while trying to speak English. Granted, this was when I was
much younger, so I don't remember all of the details.
487:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:01:27
>>483
You kicked my dog!
488:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:05:13
>>486
it's like young blacks calling nigger each other.
URLﾘﾝｸ(en.wiktionary.org)
489:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:07:35
外人 is just a short word of 外国人, doesn't mean anything else, you know.
It's not even offensive
490:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:08:52
"外人" has no negative connotation attached to the term itself, while
"Jap" DOES. Use at your own risk and just drop it, moron.
491:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:13:46
Pakis responds to chink. chink is applicable to all east asians.
Paki is widely used to all south asians.
I guess "chink" was the first to settle in large numbers in america
and "Paki" was the first to settle in large numbers in Britain.
492:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 16:14:07
>>488
Interesting. I didn't know that. Either way "Jap." as an abbreviation of
an adjective is used quite differently from "Jap" as a noun.
I suppose for Pakistani's it'd be fine to use "Pakis." or "Pak." If I were to
find that "Jap." is truly seen as offensive to the MAJORITY, I'd probably
give it up in favor of "Jpn."
493:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:24:46
the majority rules? at least majority of japanese hate it.
I am worrying that some day idiots like zeebra start to shout jap, emulating
black. lol
I think he doesn't have courage to probibit foreingers from
calling him jap while he uses jap.
494:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:26:21
>>492
The majority of Japanese simply don't understand the diference between Jap. and Jap.
495:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:33:11
Zeebra is far smarter than you judging from your post and
probbaly speaks English better than you.
496:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:39:25
URLﾘﾝｸ(jp.youtube.com)
I think so too. He speaks better ebonics?
Zeebra is criticising american influenced by his favorite comic.
I've never heard he criticised american in front of them.
497:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 16:39:46
>>494 may be on to something. That's a good point. I suppose it could be
difficult to tell the difference between its use as an adjective and as
a noun if you don't know English well. I might have to rethink my use
of the abbreviation, never really considered it from that aspect.
Perhaps I'll make a conscious effort to use "Jpn." if I am to use an
abbreviation for it. I only really use abbreviations much at all when
writing by hand, though. Typing is so fast that I tend to type out
the entire word.
498:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:46:32
>>497
I won't instruct you anymore.
don't you have your experience of "jap"?
I don't have personal experience. But I have read and heard
through comic and movies.
I guess Jap was replaced with another word in american war movies
whereas it was actually used by the soldiers?
499:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 16:47:23
>>496
Wow, I Zeebra's mother must've dropped him on his head one too many times.
He sounds really ignorant, and really stupid. I don't understand everything
he says, but his demeanor and of course the English he throws in to try
and look cool speaks for itself.
500:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:50:08
>>499
Shut up Zeebra is the truth. Fuckin sponsa! Bitches?
501:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 16:50:40
>>498
No, Jap as a derogatory term is shown in movies et cetera here as well.
It's not censored or changed in any way. The issue is, using "Jap" as a
derogatory noun and using it as an abbreviation of the adjective "Japanese"
is completely different. The only way I can understand it being found
offensive is if the person doesn't understand the difference between
its use as a noun and as an adjective.
Also, I don't understand what you mean by "don't you have your experience
of 'jap'." If you mean have I seen it used in a derogatory fashion, then
yes. Have I ever been called it? No, because I'm not Japanese.
502:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:51:02
He only experienced hentai anime and Akiba in Japan.
Doesn't care about history.
503:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 16:52:07
>>499 Wow, just noticed a mistake.
"Wow, I think Zeebra's mother" it should have been. I need to get some
sleep, it's nearly 4 A.M.
Good night.
504:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 16:54:45
>>502
Before I go to sleep...
No. Just no. You're wrong. Completely. Words fail to describe just
how wrong you are. I don't like "hentai anime", only went to Akiba a
couple times (I'm a programmer, I like electronics, why wouldn't I?),
and I enjoy reading history. Hell, I'm taking an east Asian humanities
course this semester.
505:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:54:56
>>501 I have a trauma of Jap. So For me it doesn't matter if
it's noun or adjective.
By the way, what's you major? Computer science and something like that?
506:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 16:56:38
Wow, new replies are showing up rather quickly now. I'll stay a little
longer, until they slow down a bit.
>>505
Yeah, Computer Science.
507:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 16:57:40
I wrote >>505
before reading (I'm a programmer, I like electronics, why wouldn't I?),
508:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 17:00:13
>>507
Yeah, I figured that was the case.
509:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 17:01:41
When you are employed by google, make sure to donate money to me.
510:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/12 17:03:11
Google looks like a fun place to work, actually. You can view pictures of
their office online.
And they have street hockey.
511:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 17:03:17
Guys, don't dis hentai. Ever. You talk to the fuckin sponsa. Fuck all y'all, bitches?
512:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 17:08:15
Is Hentai is a derogatory term?
That's why you denied it so hard?
513:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 17:15:13
Hentai is hentai.
Hentai means (sexually) deviant person.
514:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 17:16:38
URLﾘﾝｸ(latinoblogger.net)
515:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 17:18:12
>>514
Is this Ether?
516:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 17:20:27
Probably.
517:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 17:21:39
Nice diaper though
518:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 17:25:46
I'm starting to like him now. He doesn't look so hardass there.
519:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 19:07:11
That is surely his hentai anime uniform.
520:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 19:12:50
In 2008, adulterated milk caused kidney stones in tens of thousands of consumers.
To show his confidence in Chinese diary products, Mandelson drank a glass of Chinese milk in front of reporters.
Nine days later, he was hospitalized for a kidney stone.
URLﾘﾝｸ(en.wikipedia.org)
521:ギリギリ君 ◆D1A7cJqOrA
08/10/12 23:24:56
>>520
It is certain that Chinese dairy products and agricultural produce
aren't safe compared to that of developed countries.
As for me, I always try not to buy anything made in China. I think
that to eat Chinese ones reduces our life span.
522:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/12 23:35:44
South Korea officially threatened America at the G20 meeting held in
Washinton by saying S.Korea didn't care to sell America's Treasury Bonds.
As you know, the world is faced with the financial crisis and most countries
(including Japan, of course) tries their best to support America so as not to
let the world collapse.
I'm searching for the news article in English, but it seems that American media
haven't reported it until now.
* For those not in the know about why selling America's bonds means treachery,
to put it simply, if they are actually sold, values of dollar will depreciate,
meaning American people will suffer from economic downturn, which also means
the financial crisis will affect the rest of the world. In this respect,
what South Korea is doing is damaging not only America, but also the world.
I'll post articles if I can find any... if you are intersted.
523:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 00:40:12
Bush administration turned its back on Japan and instead chose to be
friendly with North Korea. Good bye, America. We "were" friends.
I'll remember the last day when I lost trust in you.
524:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 00:40:12
>>518
If you're referring to me, I can assure you I'm no hardass. I simply
don't speak here as I normally do elsewhere, seeing as many come here
to help familiarize themselves with the English language. As such, I
tend to avoid much use of slang, and respond in a more serious manner
to inquiries and otherwise so that my answers are not misconstrued as
meaning something other than what they are meant to. I've had far too
many instances where this is the case.
And no, I don't wear diapers. But goddamn, that must be convenient,
even if absolutely disgusting.
>>522
I'd be interested in reading about that.
525:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 00:42:15
>>523
You should be happy, instead. As result of our taking them off our "list",
they are dismantling their nuclear weapons program.
526:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 00:50:06
I hate Magibon.
527:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 00:51:56
>>526
We have something in common, then.
528:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 00:52:53
The day will come when North Korea will develop balistic missiles
with nuke because the agreement doesn't describe clearly how and where
inspections of nukes will be conducted. All is well for North Korea.
529:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 00:54:36
>>424
As a trial, would you speak colloquial English you
daily use on the net?
---------------------------------------
If you're referring to me, I can assure you I'm no hardass. I simply
don't speak here as I normally do elsewhere, seeing as many come here
to help familiarize themselves with the English language. As such, I
tend to avoid much use of slang, and respond in a more serious manner
to inquiries and otherwise so that my answers are not misconstrued as
meaning something other than what they are meant to. I've had far too
many instances where this is the case.
------------------------------------------
Transform it into your real English.
530:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 00:55:55
my penis is erecting now
531:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 01:01:02
>>529
If I were speaking as I would to a good friend online in an extremely
casual setting...
---
If you're talking about me, I'm really not. I don't speak like this everywhere;
a lot of people come here to get some help with their English, so I don't like to
use a ton of slang and the like. I speak a bit more seriously, 'cause
often people misunderstand what I'm trying to say if I don't. Happens
pretty often.
---
Though, I might curse a bit normally. I swear like a sailor in real life.
Among people I don't know well, however, I tend to write as you normally see
me writing here. It's all a question of what I'm comfortable with.
532:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 01:04:16
My feel smell bad.
What can I do to them?
533:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 01:05:40
>>532
Try some medicated powders?
...wash them, at least?
534:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 01:07:29
they are dismantling their nuclear weapons program
Wishful thinking. The U.S doesn't know how many nukes and nuke facilities
there are in Northkorea. And it was just a verbal contract and
North Korea has always betrayed us a number of times. And the U.S is not too fool to
be incapable of being conscious of it.
The U.S is busy with middle east problem including Irsrael and finaicial problem there.
East Asia is not their priority at all. So Bush want an nominal
achievement before his retirement. How fool Bush is.
535:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 01:08:56
>>534
You're probably right in that they likely will hide some facilities
and continue production.
536:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 01:09:44
As long as >>531 is concerned, it is more clear.
537:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 01:14:09
>>536
The question is, would people rather I speak simply so they can
understand very easily, or would they rather I speak using higher-level
English so they have something to learn if they don't immediately
understand?
538:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 01:16:35
>>525
I've seen your usage of "As such" in the head of the sentece.
Does it mean "that said" and "so"?
Is it your particular way?
and seeing as many come here
to help familiarize themselves with the English language.
I can't see structure of this sentence. "As many" is both noun and subject?
539:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 01:18:53
Sorry "As many" is both noun and object?
I wonder why "as" is necessary.
540:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 01:19:50
>>525
Sadly, I didn't find English articles, but the news source I found is
this (in Japanese) : URLﾘﾝｸ(japanese.yonhapnews.co.kr)
Yonhapnews is originally a korean newspaper, but its subsidiary in Japan
translates their articles into Japanese.
I talked with people about this in another board of 2ch, and many of us were
agreed on how bad, though probably small, effects South Korea's threat had on
the world economy.
(Some of the posters in there are specialists, such as writer of buisiness books)
* South Korea is supposed to have more than 20 billion dollar worth of treasury securities.
* Japan, nearly 600 billion dollar worth, though.
They said the biggest problem was, threatening affiliates like that
would leave a bitter taste, even if the face value of the securities
are "not so" large.
541:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 01:21:47
>>538
"Seeing as" is like "because."
542:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 01:22:47
>>541
Oh, "seeing as" was a set phrase.
543:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 01:24:06
I read in English-Japanese dictionary on the net that
"seeing as " is rather British way of English.
Do you think so?
544:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 01:26:13
>>543
I've never considered it. I've never even been to Europe.
I use "seeing as" quite often, and hear others doing the same;
though, come to think of it, I think I may use it a bit more
than average.
545:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 01:27:46
Don't you wanna go to your homeland, Europe?
Your ancestor came all the way to America from Europe.
546:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 01:28:51
>>545
If given a reason and a chance, I would certainly like to visit Europe.
547:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 01:47:12
"Britain's a terribly negative place. And it hammers people down and
it pulls you back and it prevents you. Also, with the issue of
immigration, it's very difficult because although I don't have
anything against people from other countries, the higher the influx
into England the more the British identity disappears."
"So the price is enormous. If you travel to Germany, it's still
absolutely Germany. If you travel to Sweden, it still has a Swedish
identity. But travel to England and you have no idea where you are."
The change in England is so rapid compared to the change in any other
country.
"If you walk through Knightsbridge on any bland day of the
week you won't hear an English accent. You'll hear every accent
under the sun apart from the British accent."
You'll be disillusioned with the actual condititon of England
like Morrissey was.
I have a question. Why paritcular British bands and songs don't
sell in the US as much as their homeland?
The Smith and Morissey is one example. They are so pessimistic and
masochistic from American view?
548:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 01:59:34
2 Korean guys sing popular hate song "Fucking USA"
URLﾘﾝｸ(jp.youtube.com)
I'm sick and tired of Korea.
549:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 02:05:44
Cold Play was exceptional.
What made Cold Play special from other bands?
I guess they sound somehow like U2 and Radiohead, the world's biggest
salers.
550:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
08/10/13 02:09:02
Before I visited Europe many many years ago,
it was a fanciful land with prince and princesses.
But when I visited there, it was a history-filled earthly place with all those stone buildings.
Before visiting, I had a notion that Germans are full of devil thoughts of Hitter.
But they weren't.
They were humanistic, Christian-like, good people.
551:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 02:09:35
Coldplay seems to be egghead band like Radiohead and unlike
Oasis.
552:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 02:11:26
Hitler tried to destroy Christianity(jewish religion) in German, which
Christian identity groups, another worshippers of Hitler won't admit.
553:イギリス人
08/10/13 02:16:09
>>537
The matter of how to speak to English-learners is a double-edged sword,
really.
On one hand, using simpler sentence construction and more commonly used
words allows the more basic and early-intermediate learners to come to
understand sentence structure better, as well as picking up a few words
here and there without having to take in too much information at once.
However, the more intermediate-advanced learners may not find it challenging
enough, and would probably like to read the more complex nuances available
in our language.
>>422
There are many people who have the first name 'Dutch', which probably does come
from families from the Netherlands who emigrated to other countries - perhaps to
reminds their children of their ethnicity.
554:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 02:22:34
>>553
Maybe I should change it up a bit now and then, then?
My typing in a more complex manner here is purely subconscious,
but I could make a more conscious effort to vary it occasionally.
555:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
08/10/13 02:22:50
Oh, really??!!
Shit!
For the sake of extermination of Jews!
Oh, fuck it!
Hard life in Egypt and the rocky deserts in Sinai got the Jews get to God.
Who among non-okult Christians can not be thankful to those hard years of the Jews?
556:アメリカ人
08/10/13 02:42:17
>>554
I've been making an effort to make sure I'm not writing anything too complex or using much slang.
Posters like ギリギリ probably have no problems, but if other 日本人 want some more colloquial English to practice I guess I could start neglecting my grammar lol.
Too bad Skypecasts are gone, then we could get some real colloquial conversation going. Writing is a world apart from speaking.
I know there's actually a Skype thread here, but my Japanese is no where good enough to be able to read anything. They saying anything in there about skypecasts?
Side note: What's the syntax for trip codes on 2ch?
557:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 02:44:47
I don't want to pick up 4ch slangs here, though.
558:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 02:51:26
>>556
In the 名前 field, after your name, put a # and a password.
Ex: Nick#password
As far as Skype goes, I wouldn't at all be opposed to getting conversations
going if there's at all interest in it.
559:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 02:52:58
アメリカ人, how long did you stay in Japan?
Seems like you know instinctively how to handle the situation in
coordination with its surroundings, which is what most Japanese
appreciate in general. Did you learn that while you were in Japan?
Or is it your nature you think?
560:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
08/10/13 02:56:52
Should I invade 4-ch to prevail English-language 10 formula grammar all over the world,
[ inviting people on this planet
[ to learn any language with 4 formulas easily] ]?
561:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 03:25:23
Korean Problem Solving Flowchart
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.geocities.jp)
Start Here
"Is it a
good
thing ?"
┌─┴─┐
YES NO
↓ ↓
Korea "Can you
invented blame an
it inferior ?"
┌─┴─┐
↓ ↓
YES NO
↓ ↓
Problem "Did it
Solved happen
before
1945 ?"
┌─┴─┐
YES NO
↓ ↓
It's Japan's It's America's
fault ! fault !
562:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 03:39:39
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.papillonsartpalace.com)
Papers reveal Nazi aim: End Christianity
Hitler was better than christian identity groups, who claim
they are true jewish. It's ridiculous.
At least Hitler recognized or suspected that Jesus was jewish.
563:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 03:45:44
I give my highest regard to Hitler and Karl Marx.
Two were the only men to challenge Christianity in History in the west.
Abolishing Christianity (True Communism) plus Paganism will be
the true National Socialism.
564:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
08/10/13 04:18:53
>>559
only 2 weeks. I really wish I could have stayed longer.
It's really not that hard to be aware of how to act in different social situations. I usually think before I act so my mouth rarely gets me into trouble.
My biggest fear when I was in Japan was whether or not the next thing I did/say would offend someone, so I was always very careful-
at least until I got a better feel for how I should interact with my host and her friends and family. Really I think that 日本人 and Westerners have more similarities then differences, so if you use common sense it all works out.
Not all Westerners are loud mouthed lol, we can be polite as well.
>>557
4chan slang would make no sense unless you know the joke, so I won't reference any internet memes.
>>558
thanks. Skype chats would be fun, but of course it's an issue of that nasty time difference.
>>563
what?
565:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
08/10/13 04:23:56
>>526
>>527
Magibon parody song: URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
566:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 04:41:49
>>564
I stayed a month; might go back next summer as well. Yeah, it's pretty
much the same for me. Think before you speak, and your mouth will indeed
rarely lead you into trouble. Five minutes of reading customs that you
may not have known goes an incredibly long way, too.
Yeah, time difference can pose a problem. JST is usually a twelve
or thirteen hour time difference from where I live, depending on DST.
It's something that'd have to be planned beforehand, not a spur-of-the-moment
meeting.
567:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 04:42:04
>>564
Don't you know Marx invented historical materialism and denied religion
saying "Religion is the opiate of the people"?
In communist world Christianity was under the control of communist party
and suppressed.
Nazi government didn't promote Christianity. It made compromise with
tradition and Christian Church had to show their alligiance to
nazi party.
One of ultimate aims of nazi party is to abolish Christianity.
568:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 04:45:39
I'm just noting something, without agenda:
Marx's statement about religion is often misinterpreted today.
He was saying that religion wasn't a problem, but a symptom of the
real problem. Only after getting rid of that main problem could
you get rid of religion.
It's too bad that the communist governments also missed this.
569:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 04:51:04
What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, selfishness
Wow, from Marx's own words... He was genius. Goebbels was
communist.
570:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 04:51:48
>>564
That must've been kind of a silly question to ask I guess, I feel retarded now...
It can't be something you'd just pick up during a short stay in Japan.
Anyway, I was just impressed by the level of your consideration and
insight that I imagined should have helped you easily assimilate into
a rather exclusive community, like Japanese highschools, judging by
your posts in the past few days, because it's not a random attribute that
everyone can attain overnight or naturally comes with. Very cool.
571:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 04:55:59
>>570
Have you ever lived overseas?
You are good English speaker, I guess.
572:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 05:00:25
Please answer my question, native English speakers!!
What 3x5's exactly mean?
573:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
08/10/13 05:01:21
>>567
Yes I do. I was commenting more on the confusing English. I know my history so Nazi fascism and Marxist communism aren't unfamiliar to me.
In theory communism is a good idea, the problem is it holds people to a very high standard and also requires the entire world to embrace the ideology.
I don't think fascism however, is ever a good idea. One shouldn't confuse it with nationalism which probably has some merits in times of extraordinary circumstances.
574:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 05:10:39
The reason that I ask this question is because there was a song named "3X5" by John Mayer.
Then there're lyrics saying "No more 3x5's" in the song.
What does this mean?
575:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
08/10/13 05:18:13
>>574
3x5 = 3 inches by 5 inches, which are the dimensions for a standard notecard.
As for the meaning in the song, that puzzles me. It could be he's referring to photographs...
>>570
yea I don't claim I know the subtleties of Japanese society, but I tried to pay attention for the short time I was there. At least I got a taste of Japan.
576:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
08/10/13 05:25:44
>>566
Apparently Skype now supports 25 person conference calls so that would be an option.
However, the host needs to have each person's screen name to invite them into the call.
I don't know if people would be comfortable posting that information here. Well we should keep it in mind for the future.
577:574
08/10/13 05:27:29
>>575
Oh I see!
Thanks so much!!
578:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 05:39:38
Didn't think you guys try to follow English grammar so that we English learners
don't get cufused. Tnank you for your concerns and I feel the same way
when I have to write something in Japanese to Japanese learners overseas.
I try to follow grammar and avoid too coloquial style so that they
don't get confused when they read my Japanese.
As a kind of advanced English learners, I don't think I have any troubles
understanding your English when you write the way you write to your buddies in English.
I sort of have reached a stage where I can learn from any types of English,
even if colloquial or not.
They stop providing the Skype Cast service? Didn't know that.
579:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 05:57:04
>>575
I meant to write, I imagined it did help you assimilate into your schoolmates.
Anyway, it's good to hear you enjoyed your homestay.
580:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 06:11:14
>>578
You're quite welcome.
>>576
Hm. Perhaps if we had them mail their Skype information instead of posting
it here?
581:イギリス人
08/10/13 06:48:15
If people are worried about their personal Skype information, I
could build a small-scale web-based voicechat application, capable
of supporting around 20 people simultaneously. Participants would
be able to stream at up to 512kbps, so there'd be very little loss
of quality...
582:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 06:56:05
>>581
When you say web-based, you don't need to install the application
in your PC?
What does it take to use the application and chat with all participants?
You get access to a certain URL that イギリス人 makes and people
who wants to participate in chatting go to the URL with mic incerted
in PC? That's all?
Will Nanako SOS guy join the chat?
583:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 07:10:21
>>581
That's an idea.
584:イギリス人
08/10/13 07:15:35
>>582
That's exactly what I mean - it would run from your browser,
and you would be able to use it as long as you have Flash Player
installed, as well as a microphone.
As for your last question... well... I'm trying to think of
a way to control who can join, yet keep it completely anonymous.
All I can think of so far is to allow anyone to join, but allow
users to locally mute users they don't wish to hear.
585:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
08/10/13 07:25:14
>>584
That'd be pretty impressive Briton, but I thought of another idea (which would require less work on your end).
The person hosting the Skype call is the only one that needs the person's name.
If the host just posts his/her Skype name then anyone interested can just message them asking for an invite.
Of course, once in the call people can see each others names, but at least you don't have to add them to your contacts.
Lets see how many people are interested, specifically the Japanese posters here. Maybe someone could write a post in Japanese as well asking about interest?
586:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 07:33:52
Who here has enough upstream bandwidth to be able to host 20 users, though?
(Supposing we get that many at any point in time)
587:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 07:40:26
>>584
Ah, Flash Player is needed, too, but chances are most PC users have it
installed even when their PCs are on a store's shelf.
If イギリス人 doesn't feel bothered and he wants to practice making such
a software for him to improve Software making skill or anything, イギリス人's
idea sounds good but アメリカ人's idea is good.
I wonder how many Japanese here'll join. I think it is better to set
up a date which falls in to weekends or national holidays.
588:イギリス人
08/10/13 07:44:03
>>586
I have a shared license for Flash Media Server, hosted on a server
with a 10 megabit upstream connection - allowing for 512kbps for
each user if all users transmitted simultaneously - more than enough
for our requirements.
Of course, that's with the custom application solution. If it's Skype-
based, I hear that Japan tops the charts for highest speed broadband, at
a national average of 93Mbps.
589:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 08:12:23
>>588
Quite true; even the internet cafes I visited in Tokyo were pretty quick.
590:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
08/10/13 09:08:35
Gaijin Invasion! URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
591:うんこ ◆2bmoujqRHk
08/10/13 10:01:06
test
592:うんこ ◆2bmoujqRHk
08/10/13 10:05:53
This is my first time to use a trip code. I followed >>556.
And I'll leave soon after like legendary superstars like vanilla ice.
593:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 10:09:54
>>531
It's funny, I think your casual version is actually easier for us to understand than
your "English learner friendly" version.
>>592
WHo are you?
594:うんこ ◆2bmoujqRHk
08/10/13 10:46:29
I wrote countless times by anonym, 名無しさん.
Now I vanish.
595:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 11:07:20
No Unko, please come back. I like your smell and cuddliness.
596:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 12:50:02
i prefer wet socks
597:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 13:29:42
>>595
I wish I could smell and cuddle people over the Internet.
That sounded odd.
598:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
08/10/13 14:19:25
giving a shout out to URLﾘﾝｸ(www.japundit.com)
It's a social news networking site for anything related to Japan.
I imagine it'd be pretty funny for 日本人 to see what us Westerners are interested in regarding Japan lol.
599:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 14:47:05
>>593
It was intended to be. I basically just simplified what I had said before.
My normal posts are how I usually write amongst people I do not know,
utilizing higher-level English skills. A lot of people here appear to
be on an appropriate level, so I didn't think to simplify things very
much in the hopes that conversing with one who knows English well would
help them with their studies. It seems like some here would rather the
simplified version, however, so I'm going to try to make an effort to
vary any complexities in my writing here as to try and net both crowds,
so to speak.
>>598
lol
600:semp ◆8rOg85/Sq.
08/10/13 14:55:32
And I'm sure it'd be pretty funny for us to see what the Japanese are interested in regarding America.
601:Ether ◆4p9idX66UM
08/10/13 15:10:43
>>600
Indeed.
602:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 15:24:03
Umm, it seems to be a rather ordinary website.. What's funny?
603:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 15:57:19
I think we could have someone who can chat in Middle English as well.
It'd be fun.
604:semp ◆8rOg85/Sq.
08/10/13 16:09:02
>>602
It's not the website itself that's funny, but its content. Well, maybe funny isn't the right word. It's amusing, at least to other Americans.
>>603
Middle English?
605:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 16:30:18
>Saying someone is a "half-breed" is offensive.
Boo-hoo! Half-breed niggers can leave the western world.
606:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 16:47:35
>>604
Does "website" only mean its design etc and not its content?
607:semp ◆8rOg85/Sq.
08/10/13 16:59:35
>>606
I meant 'website' as in the website's goal or purpose. Sorry for being ambiguous there.
608:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 18:43:35
ENGLISH板強制ID制導入議論スレ
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(vote板)
609:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 20:57:02
Something with big power is coming... and it's not Jesus
WE ARE DOOMED I THINK?!??!???
610:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 21:45:54
∧＿∧ ／￣￣￣￣￣￣￣
＿＿（ ；´Д｀)＿＿＜ Please stay with me!!!
| 〃( つ つ | ＼＿＿＿＿＿＿＿
|＼ ⌒⌒⌒⌒⌒⌒＼
| ＼ ＼
＼ ｜⌒⌒⌒⌒⌒⌒ |
＼ |＿＿＿＿＿＿＿|
611:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 21:57:19
I have to go.
612:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 22:03:23
I'm Tokyo-born Hiphop-bred, baddish guys are mostly my friends
613:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 23:08:10
>>598
The social bookmark site is dubious in a way because photos of girls
there for matci-making or making penpals seems the ones picked up soewhere
on the Net randomely, not the ones female subscribers of the match making site registered.
I guess in reality, few girls has joined match-making site if any.
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.japansoc.com) Maybe tThis site is better.
614:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/13 23:17:41
>>612
nigger
615:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 00:15:27
I'm always confused when I'm going to write something in(by?) English.
so、it takes much time to finish writing the sentence
can you make english seutences easily?
616:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 00:18:06
There're no secrets behind being able to write good English.
All you have to do is just write, write and write!
I think I've written 100 times as much English as you.
617:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 00:26:04
>>616
I fear making mistakes.
it keeps me from writing in english,I think.
I'm so nervous and fragile.
but,what you said must be right,probably
thanks
618:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 00:35:03
>>612 Are you ZEEBRA arent you?
619:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
08/10/14 00:37:06
Yes, write, write, and write!
Write here!
No one who are good people mind about your errors of English.
Converse here by writing.
Good people will respond you.
Reading our responses, you will learn how to write gradually.
Language is just for communication of our brothehood.
I am right, am I not, everyone?
620:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 00:40:43
FUCKIN KATAOKA!!!
Im tired of you!!!
621:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 01:00:26
I heard the huge space ship named ¨ohaio¨would come to the earth today in オカルト板andニュー速.
If it is true, something horrible would happen.
622:semp ◆8rOg85/Sq.
08/10/14 01:01:39
>>615
>>617
Practice makes perfect. It's going to be difficult to write in a foreign language, but the more you keep at it, the better you will get.
By the way, you got it right: write something in English, not write something by English.
623:片岡数吉 ◆WBVlJkFAFk
08/10/14 01:09:51
>>620
sucker!
suck everybody's soul!
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall off the cliff
lower, lower, lower
roll,roll, roll down the cave
deeper, deeper, deeper dooooooooooooooown
utter darkness waits you there with no returning!!!!!
624:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
08/10/14 04:06:47
Just curious Ether, what kind of program was your 1 month in Japan(study abroad)? Or was it just a vacation?
625:keira
08/10/14 04:34:01
Where did I go? Here I am!
n_n
Native speaker +1 for this thread
626:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 04:43:10
robotinbelgrade
627:keira
08/10/14 04:47:30
is belgrade a nice place to visit? :D
628:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 04:50:47
What is your blog's url?
629:keira
08/10/14 04:56:13
>>628
robotintokyo.livejournal.com
It's super old though. :C I need to update badly. I haven't taken a Japanese class in a year, so I think I'll just embarrass myself if I try to write a newer post. Hopefully I'll get the Rosetta Stone language kit in the future though n_n
630:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 05:09:23
>>629
It turned out that somebody who has been repeating robotin*** was your
your fan.
631:semp ◆8rOg85/Sq.
08/10/14 05:18:04
Alriiiiight, native speakers ftw!
632:keira
08/10/14 05:18:36
>>630
is that so? xD
so what is new with you guys? How's the weather in Japan ?
633:semp ◆8rOg85/Sq.
08/10/14 05:19:33
I find it funny yet sad that I only post in this thread just because I can't understand what's going on in the others on this board.
634:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 05:22:53
>>627
Never been there.
Actually I've never visited overseas.
robotinsomewhere is a call to ask you to come here more often.
635:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 05:23:10
>>632
You don't know the guy who keep posting robotin*** in this series
of thread?
These days it is becoming cooler and cooler. Japan is into
autumun.
636:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 05:26:33
What's new? I'm as NEET as ever.
Getting cooler here. The season of fall has come and is a good time of year
to enjoy nature, go hiking and all that. But these outdoor activities
have nothing to do with NEET like me in almost Hikikomori status.
637:keira
08/10/14 05:27:38
>>633
It's okay, I'm the same way. xD
>>634
Oh, i typed it into google and it looks like a pretty place!
I'm sorry, I get caught up and school and forget to drop by. I think I should though. I want to help everyone practice their English
>>635
No, I had no idea, I've been gone a long time!
Oh, I bet it's so pretty right now in Kyoto<3
638:keira
08/10/14 05:28:54
>>636
If you tell yourself that it has nothing to do with you, then it won't. But if you at least open the window to the autumn air, maybe you will be lured outside more. :)
639:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 05:43:15
2 entries www
640:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 05:45:47
>>633
Most of the threads in English borad are for exchanging information on
how to improve your English, what private English conversation schools
are good, tips to get high score on English testssuch as TOEIC(test of English
for International communicaton), E<---->J translation threads.....
Exchanging information on these topics might be important to improve your
English effectively but most of of English learners here in Japan focus
to much on how to get good scores on tests and in reality, they don't
write English as much as it takes to improve writing English because
some tests don't require examinees to write in English, instead questions
are all multiple choice question.
641:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 05:53:19
ＰＥＡＣＥ ＰＯＴ ＭＩＣＲＯＤＯＴ
is familiar phrase for you americans?
Keira, do you know it? Or have you guys ever used it?
Culprit, miura kazuyoshi commited suicide in the cell of prison
in L.A.
He wore the cap written ＰＥＡＣＥ ＰＯＴ ＭＩＣＲＯＤＯＴ
on it. There was a speculation that words insuniate his
death. But it was misconception. The hat was given to
miura by his son-in-law.
642:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 05:54:27
URLﾘﾝｸ(mainichi.jp)
Here is a picture.
643:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 05:55:02
Test makes no sense? I guess they should make more nicer one, maybe it costs much money though><
I've never taken tests like that actually, but I like to learn English. It's so fun
644:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 06:02:28
A lot of stuff here are really nasty flaming you don't even wanna know.
Or, may be that's the juicy part?
645:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 07:13:36
ｽﾚﾘﾝｸ(english板)l50
Hey native speakers, I've just posted a question there.
I'd appreciate it if you come and answer.
646:keira
08/10/14 07:26:17
>>641
I've never heard that phrase. How mysterious~
647:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
08/10/14 07:40:40
>>641
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.urbandictionary.com)
Hahaha, I can't believe he was wearing that hat. Why does Japan have an obsession with clothing/apparel with marijuana references?
I saw tons of that in stores when I was in Japan.
648:keira
08/10/14 07:44:05
>>647
Ohhhh! so it's something like that?
I remember in middle school we used to say "love, peace, and afro-grease" as a farewell.
649:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 08:06:16
A little trivia.
Palin's glasses are made in Japan and the sales of the same type of them
is skyroketing since she was selected as the running mate of Mcain.
650:semp ◆8rOg85/Sq.
08/10/14 08:18:05
Next thing you know, little Palin clones will be runnin' around. Oh goodness.
651:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 08:20:00
What does semp mean?
652:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
08/10/14 08:20:28
>>649
Seriously? That's the saddest thing I ever heard.
653:keira
08/10/14 08:26:21
I guess people are crazy for japanese eye-wear lately.
Even Kanye west had a cult following of those shutter-shades he used to wear.
654:semp ◆8rOg85/Sq.
08/10/14 08:27:12
>>651
My message or my name?
655:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 08:33:47
>>654
Your name.
656:semp ◆8rOg85/Sq.
08/10/14 08:34:06
My name doesn't mean anything. It's just a name.
657:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 08:36:15
Hey keira, It's been like half a year. How are you doing?
Anything new lately?
658:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 08:39:35
>>652-653
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.acakadut.com)
659:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 08:40:36
>>656
Kinda disappointed.
660:keira
08/10/14 08:41:09
>>657
Hello! thanks for asking! Not much has changed, although I'm taking piano now, which I really love.
We were planning on going to Thailand this year, but because of recent happenings we can't go there-it isn't safe. :(
That's about it form me. How about you?
661:semp ◆8rOg85/Sq.
08/10/14 08:44:36
>>659
Sorry to hear.
662:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 09:01:35
>>660
I'm doing good, just getting ready to find a new job. I just quit my old one.
Yeah, Thailand doesn't seem to be the best place to visit right now.
What song do you paly on piano?
663:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 09:02:37
>>661
I'll charge you with dissapointing me.
What you'll expect is life in prison sentence........
664:keira
08/10/14 09:10:15
>>662
Good luck in finding a new job! what field are you interested in?
As for piano, I'm trying to learn this song right now:
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.youtube.com)
Although the man playing it is playing it in strange tempos.
665:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 09:15:39
>>653
I didn't know that that is called "shutter-shades".
Doesn't Kanye wear those recently?
666:keira
08/10/14 09:20:40
>>665
I don't know if he wears them much anymore.But they're big novelty item here.
You can find plastic versions at different stores. They're supposed to be kind of funny and ironic, but some people actually are wearing them as a fashion statement. xD
Oh well. If that's what they like to wear, then that's okay I guess.
667:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 09:21:56
>>664
What is your piano's manufacture's name?
Steinway or Yamaha? Or to think you love Japanese cute things, it's
Kawai(i)?
668:keira
08/10/14 09:31:33
>>667
lol xD
I have an old fashioned up-right piano. Wurlitzer brand.
Although in my piano class we use Yamaha keyboards which are really nice.
669:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 09:40:44
I never knew what a shutter-shade was ether, so I googled it.
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.streetfame.jp)
I don't think I can manage not to laugh out loud if I come across this guy on a train or something. Thanks for the laugh lol
670:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 09:42:43
>>668
Grand piano occupies much space...
You take private lessons?
671:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 09:47:00
>>669
"ぶっちぎりのスーパーブレイク" is just great.
I have no idea what exactly it means but I can feel it. lol
672:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 09:55:24
>>671
I'm not 669 but that("ぶっちぎりのスーパーブレイク") can be translated to
"there are no comparisons with this which has become all the rage" or something.
The paragraph including this sentense explains how the glasses are popular
overseas, mentioning Paris Hilton and Kanye West using them, too.
---
I think all you have to avoid is being outside in summer during daytime.
You would get terrible suntan around your eyes.
673:keira
08/10/14 09:55:43
>>669
Yes, lol.
It all started with Kanye West (who's the man on the left)
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.doobybrain.com)
They're pretty ridiculous, but like I said, some people wear them to be funny, but some people actually wear them to try and be stylish.
>>670
I'm taking a college course, but I also am learning some songs off of Youtube. n_n
It would be nice to own a baby grand piano, but yeah, it would take up too much space. That's why I have an upright piano.
674:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 10:05:43
>>666>>669
hahahah, those are difinitely nice, maybe I gotta find people who are wearing them.
675:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 10:17:36
>>673
Try this.
URLﾘﾝｸ(jp.youtube.com)
676:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 10:38:34
URLﾘﾝｸ(jp.youtube.com)
Those were the days........
677:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 10:51:51
>>673
This guy on the left actually looks OK. On stage and stuff. But that Japanese model lol
I'm looking forward to seeing a lot of weirdos like him when I go back to Tokyo next week though. And oh, it'll be Halloween.
I heard there'll be Halloween parties going on the trains in Tokyo. How cool. They sure didn't have that when I moved out there 10 years ago.
678:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 10:59:45
>>677
The Halloween party on the train is nothing but a nuisance.
Don't do that in public transportation system.
It's OK to have a Halloween party at a proper place but not on the train.
Having a Halloween party on the train shows how arrogant Western (esp. American)
people here. They don't even try to show respect to different cultures.
679:keira
08/10/14 11:08:10
>>675
LOL. Oh my god, that's hilarious! Why would someone even do that? xD
>>677
Yes, people can get away with almost whatever they want if they are performing on stage. On the street...not so much!
680:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:23:24
>>678
I do respect different cultures. So I respect Halloween. It's like we now have 2 忘年会シーズン a year, isn't it? I don't see what's wrong with it.
Sorry, I'm a party whore.
>>679
I guess you guys have enough crazy people in CA. Never seen one like that on the street here in boring CO.
681:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:30:11
私は朝鮮人です★裁判ですよ♪スルガ銀行
スルガ銀行は違法銀行です。
スルガ銀行は個人情報保護法１７条および１６条に違反し，
機微情報の取得および目的外利用を行いました。
この違法行為はスルガ銀行が特定集団を標的として設定した違法規定によるものであり，
したがって，偶発的・個別的な違法行為ではなく，
スルガ銀行による意図的・組織的・継続的な違法行為です。
すなわち，スルガ銀行の預金口座開設規定自体が違法規定です。
スルガ銀行はこの事実を隠すため，裁判において前記違法規定の提出を拒否しました。
また，スルガ銀行は銀行法施行規則１３条の６の７等で禁止されている機微情報の利用を違法に行い，
さらに，利用目的の事前明示義務に違反しました。
したがって，個人情報保護法１８条２項違反です。
スルガ銀行は裁判で「本人確認が完了しないときは個人情報保護法１８条は適用されない」などとウソをつきました。
スルガ銀行は違法行為の隠蔽のため，裁判で前記違法規定の提出を拒否しました。
違法銀行スルガと闘う被害者の会VAIBS
URLﾘﾝｸ(360.yahoo.com)
682:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:30:11
>>680
You are too dumb to understand what I mean.
It's like you can rub your stinky penis in your house but can't do
that in the train because it's a nuisance.
It's OK to have a Halloween party at an appropriate place but not on the
train crowded with lots of passengers.
683:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:42:38
>>682
Hey, that definitly counts as slander in Japanese justice system. Is it OK for you to break the law because you are anonymous and won't get caught?
Then what is the differense between you and those what you call arrogant Americans? Actually, they may be lousy but most of them at least don't break the law?
684:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:43:42
URLﾘﾝｸ(jp.youtube.com)
>>678 is right. They are absolutely disgusting.
>>680 I don't care if you do that in your country. You just don't party on a train in Japan. That's the cultural difference
you need to respect.
685:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:45:36
Right, you don't party on the train, drinking, smoking and wrecking the train.
It's just not a cool party if it's only troubling regular commuters. Party elsewhere.
686:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:49:41
Personally, I think they should have Halloween express or something. That way, JR make money, people can have fun, and people who don't care about it don't get annoyed. Win Win Win situation.
687:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:52:13
>>684
Then I have the rights lol I was born in Shinjuku. Where were you born? Don't tell me you are not from Tokyo.
688:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:52:44
>>684
>>683 is a shameless Japanese.
689:keira
08/10/14 11:54:08
I really used to love Halloween because it was all about being scary and dressing up.
Now people go around drunk, throwing eggs at people/cars and throwing toilet paper in trees. :C
I don't think that the Halloween train party is a good idea. The people think it's okay because no one is stopping them, but really, it's just obnoxious to people who want nothing to do with it and don't really celebrate Halloween.
Maybe they should try to arrange a Halloween festival instead?
690:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:54:53
>>687
Stay away from Japan, please.
691:keira
08/10/14 11:55:01
What those people are doing is like if the Spanish Tomato-throwing festival happened in new york or something.
People wouldn't appreciate having tomatoes thrown at them and the big disturbance because it's something that they aren't used to and wouldn't be in a designated area.
If you want to celebrate, make sure it's okay first.
692:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:55:57
Really dignified people, saying rub your stinky penis and things lol
693:アメリカ人 ◆oUpRKPX5A2
08/10/14 11:56:39
>>684
I don't know how they thought it'd be a good idea to have a party on a train...
Did they get into any trouble with the police?
>>686
Easy solution, I agree. Make it only a couple cars and use it as an advertising campaign for JR.
694:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:56:41
>>687
Well now you're just arguing like a retard so I have nothing to say any more.
695:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:58:08
Born and raised in Tokyo and I just don't want to see them wreck the Ymanote Line like that.
Go get fucked up somewhere else.
696:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 11:58:43
>>694
Cool. bye bye.
697:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:02:17
I can see some words that are.. WYL
698:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:05:55
yeah, waste you life there.
699:日本人
08/10/14 12:12:08
You 日本人の2人, look in the mirror. You are slandering. That's up to 29 days in jail in Japanese justice system.
Only reason you are not getting it is because you are anonymous and you don't get caught. Then who are you criminals to judge other people?
You may be frustrated by lousy people on the train. I totally understand that. But that doesn't give you the rights to slander whoever have defferent opinions from yours.
I love Japanese culuture but I REALLY don't care for THIS part of it.
700:keira
08/10/14 12:14:45
>>699
>You are slandering. That's up to 29 days in jail in Japanese justice system.
Really?! O_o
Their opinions are harsh, but does that really count as slander? They can't say what they want?
701:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:20:17
Didn't know swearing at someone anonymous is a crime, either.
702:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:23:18
>>700
"You're dumb. Rub your stinky penis. Go get fucked up" Sure counts as slander in the US too, isn't it?
It's just people usually don't sue them.
703:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:24:56
Then pretty much every American I met is a criminal. LOL
704:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:24:59
Ten years of spending time in the US and don't even know the meaning
of slander.>>699
705:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:26:54
That's it. now it's all done. let's go home
706:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:28:32
whatever. Have fun cursing JKKK.
707:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:32:02
That was terrible even for a troll...
708:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:34:22
keep going?
709:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:35:38
>>668
Is your piano electronic piano?
I googled Wurlitzer. And it seems to have reputation for electronic
music instruments.
710:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:37:48
White men in japan these days are dropouts in USA and all that.
So I don't think they are ordinary white americans.
711:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:38:18
way to go JKKK.
712:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:41:53
Beware. >>687 is shinjuku mafia (魔悲夜).
Never associate with urita junshi if you wanna live on.
713:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:43:08
Oh, that sounds kind of cool lol
714:名無しさん＠英語勉強中
08/10/14 12:44:41
URLﾘﾝｸ(www.streetfame.jp)
うわっ。これは笑えるｗｗｗ vowとかに出てきそう。
すまん。ここは日本語で言わせてもらう。じゃないとニュアンスが
出ないし。
ぶりぶりのぶりカッコイイ！